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Hong Kong pro-democracy activists Forty-five pro-democracy activists (some pictured) are sentenced under the Hong Kong national security law for their participation in the 2020 pro-democracy primaries. The National People's Power, led by Anura Kumara Dissanayake, wins the Sri Lankan parliamentary election. Samantha Harvey wins the Booker Prize for her novel Orbital. Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby announces his resignation as a result of the John Smyth abuse scandal in the Church of England. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of Lebanon Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Thomas E. Kurtz Olav Thon Jon Kenny Yuriko, Princess Mikasa Bob Love Celeste Caeiro Nominate an article view — page history — related changes — edit

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Section sizes Section size for Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates (43 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 358 358 Archives 157 157 Sections 263 263 November 21 174 174 November 20 126 126 November 19 125 125 Undersea cables incident 2,714 2,714 RD: Tony Campolo 2,131 2,131 Hīkoi mō te Tiriti 17,554 17,554 (Posted) Hong Kong 47 4,484 4,484 RD: Shuntarō Tanikawa 1,651 1,651 November 18 125 125 RD: Colin Petersen 844 844 (Posted) RD: Bob Love 3,174 3,174 RD: Arthur Frommer 744 744 (Posted) RD: György Pauk 775 775 2024 Senegalese parliamentary election 2,750 2,750 November 17 125 125 RD: Artur Sarnat 872 872 2024 MotoGP World Championship 3,936 3,936 111th Grey Cup 3,697 3,697 November 16 125 125 RD: John Hine 831 831 2024 Wuxi stabbing attack 2,288 2,288 RD: Vladimir Shklyarov 643 643 RD: Gerry Weil 574 574 RD: Pat Koch Thaler 594 594 RD: Béla Károlyi 951 951 (Posted) RD: Olav Thon 2,011 2,011 RD: Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud 986 986 November 15 125 125 (Posted) RD: Jon Kenny 1,404 1,404 (Posted) RD: Celeste Caeiro 1,297 1,297 (Closed) Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson 19,161 19,161 RD: Ella Jenkins 1,077 1,077 (Posted) RD: Elizabeth Nunez 1,153 1,153 (Posted) RD: Eileen Kramer 1,782 1,782 (Posted) RD: Yuriko, Princess Mikasa 7,509 7,509 November 14 125 125 (Posted) RD: Thomas E. Kurtz 1,854 1,854 (Posted) 2024 Sri Lankan parliamentary election 3,325 3,325 (Posted) 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon 2,875 2,875 References 830 830 Total 98,299 98,299

Nominator's comments: American sociologist and Baptist pastor. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support: Article looks good. No obvious gaps in references; If anyone observes any gaps, please point them out and we can get them addressed. KConWiki (talk) 14:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose for now. there is a quote that needs a citation, but the article is otherwise in good shape. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 21:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • What specifically is the concern you allude to? KConWiki (talk) 22:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    There is like two sentences thats uncited in the article. Rynoip (talk) 22:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article looks good. Except for like two sentences all other sections are cited well. Rynoip (talk) 22:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: If people with concerns about missing citations can put up CN tags or give which specific areas are of concern, I will be happy to attempt to resolve them. Thanks KConWiki (talk) 00:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article: Hīkoi mō te Tiriti (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Hīkoi mō te Tiriti arrives at New Zealand's Parliament with over 60,000 people after 9 day journey to protest bill that would reform the Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi amid fears it would reduce Māori rights. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Hīkoi mō te Tiriti (pictured) arrives as the largest protest in the country's history at New Zealand's Parliament, protesting the bill that would reform the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi amid fears it would reduce Māori rights.
Alternative blurb II: ​ New Zealand witnesses the largest protest (pictured) in its history in response to a proposed bill that would reinterpret the Treaty of Waitangi.
Alternative blurb III: ​ New Zealand witnesses the largest protest (pictured) in its history in response to a proposed bill that would reform the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ New Zealand witnesses one of the largest protest (pictured) in its history in response to a proposed bill that would reform the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi.
News source(s): 1news.co.nz
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Serial Number 54129 (talk · give credit)
• Created by TheLoyalOrder (talk · give credit)

• Small country not used to seeing large marches, first nation issues, covered internationally and with long term effects. SerialNumber54129 16:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The protest has broad support by Pākehā (non-Māori), hence the blurb isn't quite right. Schwede66 18:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks Schwede66, blurb now tweaked. SerialNumber54129 18:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Sorry, I still don't like the blurb and have posted an altblurb for consideration. Schwede66 04:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - Massive international coverage, largest protests in New Zealand for a long time. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Suppport, though the blurb is inaccurate, proponents of the bill also argue it will redefine the principles, that's the point of the legislation. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 19:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @TheLoyalOrder: Tweaked. Note it was taken directly from your original lead ;) SerialNumber54129 20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Per above Rynoip (talk) 19:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak support Plenty of coverage and it's a nationwide protest with over 30,000 in attendance in Wellington alone after all. The lede could be expanded, though. Departure– (talk) 20:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Lead expanded. SerialNumber54129 20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose as stale. These protests began on 10 November, and it has been 9 days since then. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 21:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The protests are in their final day as they reach Wellington and Parliament today. Departure– (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Red-tailed hawk: Hello. The marches stated nine days ago relatively small. They garnered very little attention then, naturally, because of their size. This is the climax. ITN shows the Oscars, not the date the invites go out. SerialNumber54129 22:30, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Maybe put occurs across New Zealand earlier, followed by against .... Kowal2701 (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  occurs across New Zealand is a bit too broad, the hikoi started in Auckland and made its way down to Wellington. This all happened in the North Island, maybe occurs in major cities in the North Island of New Zealand Rynoip (talk) 23:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Not true. The marches started in various places, in both the North and South islands. They all came together in Wellington. Schwede66 08:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Clarified N. Island. SerialNumber54129 00:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  could do something like: Hīkoi mō te Tiriti arrives at New Zealand's Parliament with over 60,000 people after 9 day journey to protest bill that would reform the Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi amid fears it would reduce Māori rights TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Article is of sufficient quality and notability for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Fairly minor in scope as far as protests go. Nsk92 (talk) 01:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  its one of the biggest (possibly the biggest) protests in New Zealand history TheLoyalOrder (talk) 01:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppsee Relatively peaceful compared to other protests, nor yet to shown as impactful (eg like the past India's farmer strike that actually impacted commerce in the country). --Masem (t) 01:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Protests don't have to be violent to be meaningful and impactful. AusLondonder (talk) 19:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  There are protests nearly happening every day around the world. We have no room to cover them all, so we need to look at scale and impact. This specific protest lack either (particularly after it appear no laws will be changed) Masem (t) 20:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support the hīkoi is seven times the size of the notable 1975 Land March led by Dame Whina Cooper. Videos of MP Hana-Rwhiti Maipi-Clarke's haka in Parliament on the 14th, relevant to the hīkoi and the Treaty Priniciples Bill are already viral and in global news cycles. Ladygeekiness (talk) 01:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Link to Māori land march article for context. Schwede66 08:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support I disagree it's minor, it has made all major news outlets around the world even in non-anglophone countries, which usually pay very little attention to New Zealand and even less so to Maori issues. The lack of violence should not be a factor on notability. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The barrier for inclusion in major news outlets is extremely low. That should not be used as a judgement of significance, because news reports events big and small. Masem (t) 13:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That applies to domestic news though, if this protest was not notable nor impactful it would not have gathered so much global attention. Plenty of genuinely important news does not get reported either it's a double-edged sword anyway. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose It appears that the bill is unlikely to become law anyway and so there’s little impact. Such demonstrations and protests are common — for example, there was a big farmers’ protest in London on this day. This one doesn’t seem sufficiently significant. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose A run-of-the-mill, peaceful protest against a bill the NZ government has said it will not back coming into law. No different from the Farmer protests here in the UK at the moment. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 11:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Absolutely notable, and rare significant news from that corner of the globe. Comparisons to other countries of course run afoul of WP:ITNATA. _{Duly signed,} [[User:WaltCip|⛵ WaltClipper
• Comment - I'm utterly befuddled by the rationales used to oppose this item so far. One rationale implies that because there wasn't any violence or killing, it isn't notable; another says that because the journey across country took nine days, that it's technically outside the news cycle; and another is speculating that the bill won't become law anyway so there's no point in protesting. Much of this doesn't have any bearing on the actual significance of the item. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support We posted the 2023 Australian Indigenous Voice referendum, this is perhaps even more significant in that it signals a rollback of already agreed upon law and rights. CRYSTALBALLing aside, about whether this may or may not pass, the protests have to be seen in the context of New Zealand politics where these are important (largest ever?) and a significant point in the country's and Maori history. Gotitbro (talk) 14:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The difference is the referendum was just that, a referendum with 15,739,686 votes. These are protests 82,000 strong (and that's being generous) in a country of 5.22 Million. Scuba 16:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A meaningless comparison. Voting in a referendum in Australia is compulsory. All the NZ protesters are there by choice. HiLo48 (talk) 01:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• That's 1.58% then. For comparison, someone above made a curious (and frankly nonsensical) argument that it's the same as a march of 13,000 people out of a population of 65,000,000... or .02% *facepalm* Tight faded male arse. Decadence and anarchy. A certain style. Smile. 17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Yeah that's nonsense, the farmer's protest in the UK shouldn't be posted either and if someone nominates it I will vote oppose there too. Scuba 17:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose protests aren't large enough to warrant posting. Any argument to the contrary is just a pro-Western bias. Comparing these protests to the 2024 Armenian protests for example, which had 20,000 protesters in a country of 3,000,000, several hundred arrests, and called for a regime change, the verdict of ITN was that it wasn't notable enough to post. These protests are 82,000 in a country of 5,200,000 and are seeking to preserve the special status of one ethnic group over others.

It would be a heinous double standard if we post this to ITN. Scuba 17:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• These protests...are seeking to preserve the special status of one ethnic group over others is a ridiculous and cynical misrepresentation of what the protests are about. AusLondonder (talk) 19:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  So you don't believe that The New Zealand Government has the right to govern all New Zealanders nor that All New Zealanders are equal under the law with the same rights and duties? Bold of you I guess. Scuba 21:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  How is it ridiculous and cynical? It is precisely what it is. Rynoip (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  82000 in 5200000 is about 1.6% of the country. How is that not large enough to be significant? --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support largest protest that New Zealand has ever seen and has been covered extensively in major news sources across the world - the event is absolutely notable enough to post. The article itself is extensive and well-sourced, and easily of the quality we would want for a front page feature. Turnagra (talk) 17:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support as per other editors. Largest protest in New Zealand's history sounds like something we should post, and it has even made it into German news. Both blurbs are very long however, and a bit arcane. Simpler and shorter blurb proposed. Khuft (talk) 19:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support It's in the news and has attracted worldwide attention. ITN shouldn't ignore genuine news from smaller countries. Second blurb sounds better but would be open to other suggestions. AusLondonder (talk) 19:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks, AusLondonder. I've developed ALT3 based on your blurb and my previous ALT1. Schwede66 20:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I don't think we can call it the "largest protest" in the country's history because The Spinoff source in the article merely estimated it as being the largest, and described the difficulty in knowing for sure. The BBC described it as "one of the biggest" rather than "the biggest", so I think the blurb should reflect this. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The largest protests in NZ were about the 1981 Springbok tour and involved over 150,000 people, which is more than this protest. See NZ history. And then there were events like the 1913 Great Strike when the population was much smaller. What we've got here is hype and WP:RECENTISM. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Per Masem. Thriley (talk) 05:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: lagrest trial under the HK national security law.-Manchiu (talk) 13:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait Tables are not fully filled. Aftermath section is not added yet. Besides, many activists are jailed every year, although this is significant in terms of the number of activists jailed, I don't think we should be giving special consideration to this incident. TNM101 (chat) 14:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This more than "activists getting jailed", but is a greater geo-political issue of the erosion of democratic norms in Hong Kong. Natg 19 (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose though this court case is notable, we are now in the sentencing phase, which is not as notable. The time to post this would have been in 2021 when the activists were arrested and charged. Natg 19 (talk) 16:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, if we did not post this before, it would be fine to post this now. However, the article still needs improvement. Natg 19 (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article quality is now good, although the aftermath section could use some expansion. Rynoip (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose on quality - The article hardly seems updated following sentencing. While it is in the article, it's not nearly enough prose to (in my eyes) justify an ITN blurb. Support on notability. Departure– (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support: The article is notable and looks good. Till somebody opposing on quality doesn't put forth on what point is the quality going wrong, I don't see anything wrong. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 20:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Quality looks good and this is getting worldwide news attention, its certainly a notable news story to see democracy and free speech being sadly eroded in Hong Kong. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Looks alright. Also, when it comes to the current blurbs, the last one about the election is Mauritius is so old, even the winner has long forgot about it... Maybe add something more fresh, like this? 51.154.145.205 (talk) 13:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The democracy movement effectively stopped in Hong Kong in 2020 when the protests were supressed. And while important in the context of those protests, I am not sure if this is an inflection point in the history of the protests or the movement itself. Gotitbro (talk) 15:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support dystopian clampdown by the Chinese government, Also article is of high quality. Scuba 17:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted – Schwede66 18:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Japanese poet. His death announced on this day. 240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288 (talk) 05:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak oppose on article quality, i'd say add detail on what's listed on bro's greatest work, "Two Billion Light Years of Solitude (1952)". Also, if this article doesn't get approved soon, it may risk becoming stale as bro passed on november 13. BlondArkhangel (talk) 13:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two citation needed tags. Awards section has no sources. Secretlondon (talk) 23:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Now five citation needed tags and twice orange-tagged. Schwede66 18:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Australian drummer for the Bee Gees. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 17:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some citations needed, and uncited paragraphs. Secretlondon (talk) 23:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: American basketball player. Needs additional work (orange-tagged). Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support: Seems notable. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 05:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Stephen: this is why I wanted it included in the header. Might be in the template, but it's not visible enough. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You think people read the instructions at the top? Especially what would be points 7) and 8). It's a perennial problem. Stephen 07:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• They're more likely to read the top of the page than somewhere in the depth of the many policies. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Failing to read detailed instructions is normal behaviour – see banner blindness and WP:CREEP. If you don't want people casting such !votes then the format of the process should be changed so that it's a checklist rather than a call for !votes. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  It's not WP:CREEP if it's already a rule. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support The orange banner tag was placed in 2010 which is 14 years ago! Since that time, the article has been expanded greatly and the number of citations increased from 2 to 27. As there's no current indication or discussion of specific problems with the article and the article seems quite adequate, I just removed the obsolete tag. If people think there's a problem, they need to be specific. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Citations have been completed. Marked as ready. Flibirigit (talk) 13:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 20:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Founder of Frommer's travel guide book series. Thriley (talk) 01:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soft oppose: Chunks of the article aren't cited, there are also no sections and it's lacking in prose. Scuba 02:06, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Hungarian violinist, Bartók expert. Grimes2 (talk) 23:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article is properly cited. Scuba 02:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted Stephen 03:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article: 2024 Senegalese parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The PASTEF party, led by Ousmane Sonko (pictured), claims victory in the 2024 Senegalese parliamentary election (Post)
News source(s): France 24 Deutsch Welle
Credits:

• Nominated by Scu ba (talk · give credit)
• Created by Number 57 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article needs serious work, and needs to be updated, but when that is done this is ITN/R. More of a call to action for people to edit the article at the moment rather than a true submission to the board. Scuba 04:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These sources are all dated from 18 November so this submission should be moved to tomorrow. Senegal uses UTC. Departure– (talk) 04:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moved. Scuba 04:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait until an official winner is announced. I will say I don't know much about how election works in Senegal. INeedSupport ^:3 15:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose on quality as the article is very short, although it seems well sourced. Per AP, other major parties have conceded defeat to PASTEF and their victory seems all but guaranteed. I'd just like to confirm however, Sonko is the leader of PASTEF but he isn't mentioned in the AP article - I don't know enough about Senegalese politics to draw a major conclusion on this though. Departure– (talk) 17:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Article needs expansion, but given the available sources should be easy to do. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Soft support article looks decent, albeit very short. Scuba 02:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• We don't post stubs. Schwede66 18:11, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article: 2024 MotoGP World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motorcycle racing, Jorge Martín (pictured) wins the MotoGP World Championship. (Post)
News source(s): Eurosport
Credits:

• Nominated by Unnamelessness (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Unnamelessness (talk) 14:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment is there a reason there are no infoboxes like in other sports season articles? Abcmaxx (talk) 14:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soft oppose needs an infobox. Scuba 21:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such rule. HiLo48 (talk) 01:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, none of the MotoGP championship articles have an infobox. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1^{(The Garage)} 00:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but my question is why? Abcmaxx (talk) 01:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, well, that's a problem. Scuba 02:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The use of infoboxes is neither required nor prohibited for any article per MOS:INFOBOXUSE... there doesn't need to be one on any article, so its not a problem. Happily888 (talk) 03:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying it's a requirement, I'm just wondering why aren't there any, especially given they’re very useful on sports season articles. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a requirement, but it would be nice to have, and there isn't really a reason to not have one. Scuba 02:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak support the season summary could be expanded, but is just about good enough for the article to pass WP:ITNQUALITY. The existence of an infobox is not a requirement for ITN, and so any votes based on that should be disregarded. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support ITNR, well cited, infobox is not necessary. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 09:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article: 111th Grey Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Canadian football, the Toronto Argonauts (MVP Nick Arbuckle pictured) defeat the Winnipeg Blue Bombers to win the Grey Cup. (Post)
News source(s): TSN
Credits:

• Nominated by Moraljaya67 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I know that this article needs a game summary for this like in other sports (i.e. NFL, NBA, AFL, etc.) Moraljaya67 (talk) 04:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should note that the Grey Cup is ITNR so discussion should focus on quality instead of notability. Strong oppose on quality, much of the article is written in future tense and no details about the game itself are present. Departure– (talk) 04:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Changed to ITNR since the Grey Cup is in recurring item. Moraljaya67 (talk) 04:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose there's absolutely no description or indeed any information at all on the game. It's all background trivia at the moment. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose needs proper match summary. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose summary that was added is all original research and has no citations. Scuba 02:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support problems with the article have been fixed. Scuba 04:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support: The teams' summary, scoring summary, and stats tables have now been added. The game summary has been re-written with references. Pictures from the game have also been uploaded and added. I'm also suggesting a change to the key image, since this is from the MVP award presentation. I'm seeking reconsideration from @Departure–:, @Abcmaxx:, @Joseph2302:, @Scu ba: and support from @WikiOriginal-9: and @GreenRunner0: Cmm3 (talk) 04:00, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Its in a good state for this. GreenRunner0 04:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: English Catholic Bishop  The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Unreliable obituary? Grimes2 (talk) 21:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Second mass attack in a week. (the first being the ramming) '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 05:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I've moved this here. (previously under November 19)  Self-trout '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Support Article quality is fine but could use some work. The stabbing is very notable. INeedSupport ^:3 17:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support on notability, quality could use some work though. Rynoip (talk) 19:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, notable school attack with a large amount of victims. Article needs a little more information though. Bloxzge 025 (talk)
• This needs a few more eyes and comments. Schwede66 18:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Article not too bad, needs a few more citations in places though. Needs a section on their death given that he was taking painkillers for an injury and fell from fifth floor of a building in St. Petersburg. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Austrian-born Venezuelan jazz musician. NoonIcarus (talk) 20:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Article is a stub, nothing about his personal life. Rynoip (talk) 22:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: American educator, author, and activist. TJMSmith (talk) 19:32, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is sufficiently cited and in good quality. Rynoip (talk) 22:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Romanian-American gymnastics coach of nine Olympic champions. Seems to be missing some citations. Estreyeria (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soft oppose article was looking good, until the 1999–2000 section, which is practically uncited. Scuba 03:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Oppose: Short, could be lengthened by translating sourced material from the corresponding Norwegian article first, it has additional 14 citations at least. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 15:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @ExclusiveEditor: How about now? Added an early life section. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 15:34, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Looks well sourced. For a 101 year old his bio could be longer, but this will suffice. Shanes (talk) 17:37, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks like a long enough article and well sourced. - Sebbog13 (talk) 03:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article looks good. Scuba 03:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted – Schwede66 17:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: The former Somaliland president died on November 15, coverage of his death started on November 16. The overall article seems well-cited with reliable and primary citations needed for some awards. QalasQalas (talk) 11:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose overall article looks good at a glance, until you notice a bunch of paragraphs with no citation. Scuba 03:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Irish actor and comedian. Known for The Banshees of Inisherin among other things. Filmography (as usual) needs sourcing—being worked on now now sourced. SerialNumber54129 20:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support looks good, refreshing to see a fully cited filmography. Scuba 03:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Already posted by another admin a few hours ago. --PFHLai (talk) 23:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Celeste dos Cravos, the woman who, giving her carnations to the soldiers, gave the name to the 1974 Carnation Revolution in Portugal. Been working on the article and I think it is already in a good state to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support, the article is ready to be posted. Alexcalamaro (talk) 18:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article looks good. Scuba 04:00, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 20:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: American "First Lady of Children's Folk Song"; died November 9, media coverage appears to start on November 11. Core article seems well-cited, with citations needed for some awards. ForsythiaJo (talk) 02:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soft oppose chunks of the article aren’t cited. Scuba 19:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would anyone else be willing to take a look at the article? Referencing should be further improved at this point. ForsythiaJo (talk) 17:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced. NYT published obit today while confirming death as 8 November. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:04, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support NYT obit a week after her death. Article in good shape. Grimes2 (talk) 19:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article looks in good shape Scuba 19:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted Stephen 01:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:44, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Solid article. Grimes2 (talk) 16:23, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Good article, meets ITN criteria. Happily888 (talk) 02:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support solid article. Please post soon. Bedivere (talk) 04:17, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  not looking for ITN criteria, which this doesn't meet, we're looking for RD criteria. Scuba 22:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ITN criteria is pretty much WP:ITNCRIT this, which is applicable to blurbs and RD and which it meets. Happily888 (talk) 03:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article looks fine. Scuba 22:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 00:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Some work is needed, but Yuriko, Princess Mikasa was one of the last royals of Japan born and from the Taisho era, married one of Emperor Showa's brothers, and was the oldest living royal in Japan following her husband's death. TheCorriynial (talk) 23:55, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - Member of a royal family. Harizotoh9 (talk) 01:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. Natg 19 (talk) 02:20, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added this to the rule summary at the top of the page. It looks like these are good faith votes from people who are unaware of the above, and it comes up very often in comments, so added it for awareness. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Almost Ready. Shocking news for Japan. However, several sentences are missing the usual. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 02:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt it was that much of a shock. Like Queen Elizabeth she was in advanced old age and her health was known to be in decline. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:20, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

She was 101, how shocking could it have been? RachelTensions (talk) 08:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese people are feeling bad about this, that's what they seem to mean. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 15:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Of halting importance globally and not significant to the average reader Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 02:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The average reader does not know who 99.99% of who RDs are. Harizotoh9 (talk) 04:17, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Please brush up on WP:ITNRD before adding your vote. Any individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died is eligable to be included in RD, as long as their artcles are Not currently nominated for deletion or speedy deletion, Updated, and of sufficient quality. Scuba 05:19, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  They are also eligible to receive votes in opposition. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 18:15, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RDs are "eligible" for opposition, but oppose votes should be based on article quality. "Halting importance globally" is not a reason to oppose, as Scu ba has stated. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. Natg 19 (talk) 18:29, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They should, but they don't have to. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 18:34, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, but those votes have to make sense. Scuba 19:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment She was 101. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Soft oppose: the "children" section is largely uncited, but that seems like it would be an easy fix, and the information in it should be public record. Scuba 05:17, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support problems with the article have been fixed. Scuba 21:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I've fixed the children section, thanks to NHK last year when she turned 100 listing every child via photo. I've tried to improve tone issues and fixed a ref needed, turned out it was in the same source I used for her children.TheCorriynial (talk) 10:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I've worked it down to one ref needed, that im not sure how to find a reference for, being a order award that is usually given to women in the royal family and rarely to other foreign female royals. TheCorriynial (talk) 12:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Looking through wikimedia commons, it appears she received the award in 1941. Obviously commons shouldn't be cited, but its a start. I've tried the best I've can, maybe a Japanese wikipedia user could help?TheCorriynial (talk) 16:58, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are there better refs for these awards in Japanese sources? Some of the current refs are blogs. Natg 19 (talk) 18:36, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Not Quite Ready but close. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:20, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Ad Orientem:, please don't do this, and tell us what is not ready so we can fix it even if you said that in general. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 15:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment: The article is probably ready by now. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support The article was heavily edited after her death, and now if well cited and looks promising to make a good RD entry. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 08:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 02:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Co-developer of the BASIC programming language. Death reported 14 November. Thriley (talk) 06:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: Has a complete uncited section, also needs more sources elsewhere. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 08:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Added Every section is sourced. Support Grimes2 (talk) 17:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Article could use some restructuring as multiple statements in the lede are not mentioned elsewhere in the article. Spencer^T•C 19:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. @ExclusiveEditor: @Spencer: I've been working on the article along with several other people. I think it's in pretty good shape now. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 20:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 00:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article: 2024 Sri Lankan parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The National People's Power led by Anura Kumara Dissanayake (pictured) wins the Sri Lankan parliamentary election. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Titanciwiki (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I think this article needs to have more information on the aftermath but following that it should be good to post Titanciwiki^talk/contrib 03:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support all the numbers are here, but the aftermath section is short. Scuba 04:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks fine. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 05:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. -- IDB.S (talk) 15:04, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Rm ready. "Results" section has no prose. Spencer^T•C 23:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Added ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 08:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Admins willing to post ITN: can this be posted now? Abcmaxx (talk) 14:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted – Schwede66 17:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 00:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a proposal to replace the ongoing item Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) with 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. There was consensus at Talk:Israel–Hezbollah_conflict_(2023–present)#Options that the scope of the former article should end at Sep 30, 2024 and events after Oct 1, 2024 should be covered in the latter article. Multiple weeks have passed and no one has objected. I think changing the ongoing will also redirect editors to add updates to the appropriate article.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 00:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Sounds good to me, this probably should've been done with the invasion started. Scuba 00:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support There is consensus, and this will direct editors to the appropriate article. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Per @Scu ba Rynoip (talk) 08:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per the talk page consensus. The Israeli invasion article is more current, and should therefore be the one we use on the main page. Kurtis ^(talk) 09:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted, replaced, Stephen 23:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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