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RD: Linda White

Article: Linda White (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-01/senator-linda-white-dies/103532260
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Australian Senator. Article is short but well sourced. HiLo48 (talk) 23:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Brian Mulroney

Article: Brian Mulroney (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Prime Minister of Canada from 1984 to 1993. JM (talk) 23:15, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support once the CNs are resolved. The article is of generally good quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:39, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support once cleaned up; would a blurb be worth considering? He was PM of Canada for nearly nine years. The Kip 23:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb A complicated figure, I despise much of the man's politics (while admiring other parts of his political legacy), but he was part of "conservative trio" of UK, US, & Canada politicians of the 1980s (Reagan, Mulroney, Thatcher) who greatly shaped world politics of the 1980s.Canuck89 (Talk to me) or visit my user page 00:16, March 1, 2024 (UTC)
  • Support blurb once citations fixed. PM of Canada for nearly a decade. Responsible for very key domestic developments such as mass privatization (boo), a national sale tax, two failed attempts at constitutional reform, as well as international achievements such as US-Canada free trade, leading the fight against apartheid in the Commonwealth, and overseeing the signing of the Montreal Protocol to save the ozone layer, among others. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Article has now been given 15 CN tags so if anyone wants to clean those up... JM (talk) 00:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I've done 5 citations but I'm out of time for now. JM (talk) 01:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb once citations fixed Concur with above statements on blurb relevance. Flibirigit (talk) 00:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Ali Hassan Mwinyi

Article: Ali Hassan Mwinyi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former president of Tanzania. Gödel2200 (talk) 21:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment legacy section uncited, honours subsection uncited, 1 CN tag. JM (talk) 22:18, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment - I'm anticipating that this might not gain consensus, but I would consider blurbing Mwinyi... he was the leader of one of the larger countries in Africa for a full ten years, so looked at purely in terms of population numbers ruled over, he'd be a similar case to Tony Blair or Jacques Chirac (whose death we didn't post because of quality concerns, but which would have otherwise been an easy blurb). Obviously in terms of economy size and world status, the leader of Tanzania is less than the leaders of the UK or France, but still worth considering.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:27, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose blurb, old man dies, a notable life is not a notable death, the usual. JM (talk) 23:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 28

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  • Red Bull Formula One leader Christian Horner is cleared of wrongdoing in an internal probe looking into allegations of "inappropriate" behavior made by a female staffer. Horner will remain in the position of team leader. (NBC News)

RD:Dave Myers

Article: Dave Myers (presenter) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

British TV presenter and chef. Article in decent shape, just needs a few refs. yorkshiresky (talk) 19:37, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose still missing some references, a few uncited paragraphs. JM (talk) 23:30, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Virgil (wrestler)

Article: Virgil (wrestler) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wrestlezone
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American professional wrestler. 240F:7A:6253:1:E00B:A9D5:6C4C:C0E3 (talk) 03:57, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose Unfortunately, like many pro wrestling pages, it’s in poor shape citation-wise. The Kip 06:00, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose There are three tags on the page esp. lack of citations Pksois23 (talk) 13:18, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Cat Janice

Article: Cat Janice (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Article updated and well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support no issues preventing posting. JM (talk) 00:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Nikolai Ryzhkov

Article: Nikolai Ryzhkov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Скончался экс-глава правительства СССР Николай Рыжков
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Premier of the Soviet Union, Politburo, and Russian Senator following the fall of the Soviet Union. Was the last living Premier, and last leader from the final years of the USSR still around. Article may need help, but its also a GA, so maybe not. TheCorriynial (talk) 12:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Weak oppose Orange tag at the top that needs to be addressed, otherwise looks good. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait until orange tag is cleared. Otherwise, article looks ready. Moncoposig (talk) 20:09, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    The tag was added in 2018 with no edit summary or talk page rationale. Not sure this should hold this up if the article otherwise is well-cited. Connormah (talk) 01:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It also doesn't seem like he said or did much following 2018, minus some random events in 2022 and his retirement. TheCorriynial (talk) 02:05, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Article seems to be relatively well-cited once orange tag is taken care of. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:23, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose due to two cn's and a partially unsourced awards section. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) Mitch McConnel will step down as Senate minority leader

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Article: Mitch McConnell (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Mitch McConnell announced he will step down as Senate minority leader, ending the longest tenure of any senator leading their party in the history of the United States. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell announced that he will be stepping down from that position after the longest tenure of any Senator leading their party in the history of the United StatesSteve.A.Dore.4 (talk) 20:30, 28 February 2024
  • Comment tidied up the nomination and added a blurb on behalf of the nominator. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:53, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Good faith nomination, this is not the sort of news we post at ITN. It won't change the GOP's trajectory. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:46, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Misleading blurb, he didn't step down. He announced that he would step down in November. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:46, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Chaotic Enby: sorry that would be my fault. No blurb was given in the nomination so I hastily wrote one; corrected now. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:50, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose - and suggest SNOW close, there is 0 chance this is going to be posted. nableezy - 20:59, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose neither head of state nor head of government nor head of the legislature nor even the head of a single chamber of the legislature nor even the party leader; merely the leader of the senate caucus of the minority party. Additionally, merely an announcement, he's not even leaving until November. JM (talk) 21:25, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose and snow close Bona fide nomination, but Mitch's resignation is totally irrelevant to Wikipedia and outside of Washington DC. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Berlin International film festival

Article: Dahomey (film) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Dahomey wins the Golden Bear at the Berlin International Film Festival. (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Well cited and ITN/R. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support article reads well with references. Jiaminglimjm (talk) 11:31, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support article is well sourced. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • This meets our minimum requirements, but there's something odd about the article. The writing is unidiomatic, as if it has been imperfectly translated, and the coverage is unbalanced. There's a huge number of quotes from reviewers, but little on the actual content, and not enough context for readers unfamiliar with the Kingdom of Dahomey or repatriation of artworks. I've done a heavy copyedit but this really needs an expert to expand the first few sections. Modest Genius talk 13:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak Support Article is fine...but it would be great for an expert or something to cleanup and edit the article as per MOS:FILM Pksois23 (talk) 13:29, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment: Shouldn't the film festival be the targeted article here, since that is what is ITN/R? Citing the recent BAFTA post and typical award ceremonies. If so, that article isn't up to standards. mike_gigs talkcontribs 15:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
WP:ITNAWARDS says that: "Unless otherwise noted, the target article is normally the winner of the award." Because there is no note for the Berlin International Film Festival, I would assume this means the winner should be targeted in this case. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak support Target article is fine, but as noted by commenters above, the “Reception” section feels a bit excessive while the “Contents” section feels underdeveloped. The Kip 20:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Richard Lewis

Article: Richard Lewis (comedian) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Pretty well sourced, but for the filmography. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:56, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support per nom. The awards section tag bothers me a lil bit, but other than that, the article looks in pretty good shape and is good to go. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Ready) RD: Ronnie de Mel

Article: Ronnie de Mel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dinamina, adaderana.lk, dailynews.lk
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan politician, former Minister of Finance. Titanciwikitalk/contrib 06:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support The article seems well-sourced and of generally good quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 07:48, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Seems to meet the ITN/RD quality requirements. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Article looks ready to go. Moncoposig (talk) 19:19, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I've updated the sources and content, and formatted the article and citations.
Support for reasons cited by User:MtPenguinMonster 7&6=thirteen () 22:35, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(On hold) Sweden's accession to NATO

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Articles: Sweden–NATO relations (talk · history · tag) and Enlargement of NATO (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Hungary ratifies Sweden's accession to the NATO treaty, clearing the last obstacle to full membership (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Sweden joins NATO as the alliance's 32nd member.
News source(s): BBC, FT, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
The only remaining formality seems to be deposition of a document and there will be a flag-raising ceremony later this week. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strong support once the one CN tag is fixed. Article looks ready to go and well-sourced. Moncoposig (talk) 16:16, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait for formal accession While all members of NATO have ratified Sweden's accession, we should wait to post until Sweden formally joins. Gödel2200 (talk) 16:30, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait until formally completed but clearly an ITN worthy item when that happens. Masem (t) 16:32, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait for formal accession. This took a year longer than expected, waiting maybe one more day shouldn't be that much. Count this as a support on notability once it's finally done. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Suppot but wait until accession. JM (talk) 16:58, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait until formal accession. This is probably the least significant expansion because the country is completely surrounded by NATO member states.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Not insignificant at all. This expansion essentially turns the Baltic Sea into a NATO lake, not to mention the strategic value of Gotland undermines both Kaliningrad and makes the Suwalki gap way more defendable. Not to mention how much easier it has gotten to defend the baltic states too. TwistedAxe [contact] 17:22, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I disagree, it's probably the most important given Sweden's long politics of neutrality, Turkey's and Hungary's long opposition to it, and the wider geopolitical picture.
    Abcmaxx (talk) 19:35, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Sweden’s politics of neutrality is completely irrelevant from a geopolitical viewpoint (it fits well for DYK, though), and we don’t know whether Sweden will meet NATO’s defence guidelines (it seems like half of the member states are non-compliant with the 2% guideline). I don’t object posting this when Sweden accedes, but it’s just filling a gap rather than truly expanding the alliance. For the sake of comparison, Finland’s accession was way more significant because the country shares the longest border with Russia in Europe.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Strong support after formal accession per Kiril Simeonovski & Gödel2200 Ion.want.uu (talk) 17:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Since we posted when Finland joined NATO, it is only fair that we post here too, but Wait until all the processes are formally completed. Editor 5426387 (talk) 17:58, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support and wait for formal accession for the reasons discussed above. Ergo Sum 18:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support but wait for formal accession, per above. I additionally added altblurb 1 (which I favor over the originally proposed blurb) to match the format for when we posted Finland. DecafPotato (talk) 19:27, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Consensus is to wait until accession, at which point altblurb 1 makes way more sense. JM (talk) 19:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support but wait for formal accession, per above. PrinceofPunjabTALK 19:56, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support but wait per above. Still some minor bureaucratic actions before it’s official. The Kip 20:58, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait. Sweden's actual accession to NATO will be far more noteworthy. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 21:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strongly support once formal accession completed. Any country acceding to NATO is important, and one with a history of neutrality like Sweden perhaps moreso than average, but it's premature before the ink is dry. SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 22:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Note, that probably necessitates a rewrite of the blurb. SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 22:22, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    There's an altblurb. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait per all above, and note that BBC says the formal accession usually takes "a few days", so I don't see a need to close this discussion given the way consensus looks at the moment (i.e. it will presumably still be on the page when accession happens, any disagreement will have been stated by then, that makes it all nice and smooth for posting or not when it happens without having to open a new discussion). Kingsif (talk) 23:32, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Close for now Unfortunately, this will take more than "a few days" since Hungary is once again stalling. The vote from its parlament needs to be signed by the president or speaker of the house, and that will take some days, probably late this week or perhaps early next week.[2] After that, the actual signed documents (no e-mail with this) will be flown to Brussels and Washington for the final confirmation.[3] That usually takes about three days. So it might be better to close this now and open a new discussion when everything is done. The item is ITN-worthy even if our biggest contribution to NATO will just be to provide a shortcut for military advances,[4] and the fact that we are a good weapons manufacturer. It's one of the last slots to be filled in in the NATO patchwork and the end of a very long policy of neutrality.[5] (All of this according to Swedish media sources.) In my own opinion: Don't jinx it with premature declarations! ;-) Cart (talk) 09:29, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support but wait for accession as per above --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:25, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Strong support once Sweden formally joins NATO, per above. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 09:18, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Mohammad Shtayyeh resignation

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Article: Mohammad Shtayyeh (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Palestinian PM Mohammad Shtayyeh resigns along with the entire government in protest against the Gaza genocide. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Prime Minister of Palestine Mohammad Shtayyeh (pictured) and his government submit their resignations to President Mahmoud Abbas.
Alternative blurb II: Mohammad Shtayyeh, the Prime Minister of Palestine, resigns along with his government.
News source(s): CNN, Reuters, FT, NY Times, Time
Credits:

 Ainty Painty (talk) 03:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support if modified to simply "Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh tenders his resignation to President Mahmoud Abbas." The sources don't say anything about him resigning in protest. PtolemyXV (talk) 04:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support and propose altblurb on notability, oppose on quality None of the listed sources claim that the resignation was done in protest, and it's not our place to engage in WP:OR. That aside, the event is certainly notable; however, at the moment it's merely a one-sentence update to the target article, and the PM and government articles are nearly stubs as well. The Kip 06:54, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose original blurb for two reasons: WP:OR on the reason for the resignation per above, and stating "the Gaza genocide" without qualifying that it's treated on Wikipedia as an allegation, not a fact. JM (talk) 07:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on quality. This is probably newsworthy enough and the altblurb looks fine (the original blurb is not as explained). But the articles Mohammad Shtayyeh and Shtayyeh Government are really quite bare at the moment. Endwise (talk) 07:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support altblurb on notability, oppose on quality shouldn't the Shtayyeh Government be bolded as well given it affects then just as much? Abcmaxx (talk) 08:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I shifted the target to the resignations, but unfortunately that article at the moment only has a one-sentence update. The Kip 08:41, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose the change of PM of Palestine is not ITN-worthy as it is not the person who has executive authority in the PA, since it is its president. Moreover, as JM points out, the accusations of genocide are still a political manifestation that can be challenged under NPOV. _-_Alsor (talk) 08:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose This is covered by the ongoing entry for the Israel–Hamas war. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    If the government didn’t resign in protest of the war, I fail to see how this is covered by the ongoing item. This is Fatah’s internationally-recognized West Bank government. The Kip 09:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    There are numerous ramifications and consequences of the fighting in Gaza. For example, there has been a big hoo-hah about the decisions of the UK Speaker for recent Gaza debates. That has been prominent news here while Shtayyeh resignation hasn't but so it goes. It's all covered by the ongoing item. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on quality: strong support on notability but article is poorly written.Pksois23 (talk) 09:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support on notability, but we need to separate these links per MOS:SOB. How about Mohammad Shtayyeh (pictured), the Prime Minister of Palestine? Aaron Liu (talk) 11:49, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support alt2 in principle, but oppose on quality. There's only a single sentence update in the PNA article and Shtayyeh's is embarrassingly bad. One (or both) of those articles is going to need some major work to reach sufficient quality to be a bold link. Modest Genius talk 13:14, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose in part per Alsor: the prime minister in Palestine does not administer executive power, and I don't think his resignation alone warrants a burb. I would support if this caused the Palestinian State to not be able to function, or something along those lines. But both of the articles for Mohammed Shtayyeh and the Palestinian National Authority are certainly not ready. They each only have a single paragraph on this event, and do not say anything about its aftermath. The latter article also has sourcing issues throughout. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose on quality, support on notablility, wait until more info and events occur as a result of it. Ion.want.uu (talk) 17:11, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Strong support on notability, oppose on quality The linked articles need to be improved if this is to be posted. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:28, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support altblurb 1 or 2 on notability, oppose on quality This seems enough to post, but the quality needs to improve. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 13:18, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak oppose - from the Reuters article, "The Palestinian Authority exercises limited governance over parts of the occupied West Bank but lost power in Gaza following a factional struggle with Hamas in 2007" -- which suggests that this is not a big deal. Banedon (talk) 02:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Regardless, the PA is the internationally-recognized Palestinian government and holds power over about half of Palestinian territory; this isn’t like the collapse of a recognized government-in-exile with no real power (a la Afghanistan). The Kip 20:37, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose - Prime Minister is not the head of state or the most powerful office in Palestinian politics. As well as that, I haven't seen any sources that this resignation was in protest of the Hamas War. If Abbas resigned, that would definitely be notable, but the Head of Government of a barely functioning state is iffy PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Weak support on notability, not convinced by the above arguments that it isn't notable because the Palestinian Authority has "limited governance" or is a "barely functioning state", we're not here to judge how powerful states must be to be relevant. We recently blurbed Tuvalu, which has a lot less population than the parts of the West Bank controlled by the PA, so that shouldn't really be an argument. Still, the PM doesn't administer the executive, so notability isn't 100% guaranteed either. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Ole Anderson

Article: Ole Anderson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wrestling Observer - Figure Four Online, CBS Sports
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American pro wrestler and legendary member of The Four Horsemen. Article’s in better shape than most wrestlers but still needs work. The Kip 01:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose Article definitely needs work before it goes up. Far too many CN tags. Moncoposig (talk) 17:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    For a general RD, sure, needs work. But "better shape than most wrestlers" is also a repeatable accomplishment in its own little right. Look at Virgil (wrestler) or (from the Long Long Ago) Ed Gantner. The former is working hard and the latter is hardly working. Anyway, I'm Waiting for RadioKAOS to weigh in before voting. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) RD: Peter Peetah

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Article: Peter "Peetah" Morgan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Pulse Ghana

Pitchfork
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
 Heatrave (talk) 15:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Opppose 3 CN tags in the first section, 4 of 5 other sections totally unsourced, and the fifth section mostly unsourced. JM (talk) 17:50, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And per DarkSide830, it's not a bio article either, which I somehow didnt notice, so it doesn't qualify; recommend close. JM (talk) 19:14, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Not a biographical article. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • We allow such articles when the person is mostly described as part of a group. However in this case, I beg whether notability of the one member applies here (eg ITNRD doesn't apply) — Masem (t) 20:31, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      I mean, if there was a section about each member maybe I could be swayed, but Peetah Morgan is only mentioned specifically as being a member of the group in general, and in a one-sentence update saying he had died. That's not RD material either way. DarkSide830 (talk) 21:52, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per Darkside: Not much information about Peetah. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:08, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per Darkside and JM. There being only two sentences about Peetah Morgan means this is not a biographical article about him, meaning this is not RD. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:39, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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RD: Salah Larbès

Article: Salah Larbès (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Score, Algérie360
Credits:

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Former Algerian footballer, needs expansion from French article. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 15:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose for now needs expansion, as the nominator says. JM (talk) 18:09, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose I'd expand from the French article myself, but the French article lacks sourcing. Moncoposig (talk) 20:12, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Tep Vong

Article: Tep Vong (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://english.news.cn/20240226/d786acc99fb04a00bf84ce4c04898a31/c.html
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
  • Supreme Patriarch of Mahanikay Buddhism in Cambodia, informative article.
  • Oppose first two sections of biography are unsourced, honours section is unsourced. JM (talk) 18:11, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Jacob Rothschild

Article: Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lord-jacob-rothschild-dead-dies-b2502502.html
Credits:

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Banker and Rothschild Family member. Article needs some work. Onegreatjoke (talk) 13:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Pankaj Udhas

Article: Pankaj Udhas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Noted Singer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:00, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) New Prime Minister of Tuvalu

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Article: 2024 Tuvaluan general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following the 2024 Tuvaluan general election, Feleti Teo (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Tuvalu. (Post)
News source(s): RNZ, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Elected unopposed by parliament, which is the first time this has happened in Tuvaluan history. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 09:18, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The target article should be the election page not the prime minister-elect which I have fixed already (correct me if I am wrong). Support as article is well-cited and I don't see glaring issues...could someone with more experience with the MOS figure out the chain of citations present in the election article. Pksois23 (talk) 13:15, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment Unsure of the sourcing for the results table. The Feleti Teo article is fine, the PM article is undersourced. JM (talk) 17:37, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Late oppose Article is boring and poorly written overall Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 01:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    “Boring” isn’t a valid reason to oppose, but care to elaborate on the other point? The Kip 01:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Stinks of promotional language, has too much passive voice, and at least two glaring typos. Doesn't really matter at this point. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 01:53, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It's a shame that we're not currently using an encyclopedia anyone can edit where those issues can be fixed by people who notice them. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 15:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment I think it would be better to have a picture of the lunar lander than a new leader of a country that's the size of a small town. The lunar lander is more novel/interesting to most readers. 1779Days (talk) 20:07, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Usually the top blurb is the one that gets the picture. The proper place to discuss which blurb gets the photo would probably be ITN talk. JM (talk) 21:05, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blurb or RD: Aaron Bushnell

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Article: Self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An American airman protesting the Israel–Hamas war self-immolated in front of the Israeli embassy to the United States in Washington, D.C. (Post)
News source(s): i24NEWS
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Incredibly disturbing and distressing death, but 100% newsworthy and notable. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 10:06, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait until his death is confirmed. If/when it is, the article looks ready to go. Moncoposig (talk) 13:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support in principle as I think on this own this does not qualify as an RD. This would need to be posted as a blurb as if it were a non-RD news event as the decedent did not have their own article prior to their death. But that being the case, this is still a timely event of high encyclopedic interest, drawing attention to the impacts of this conflict beyond just the war itself. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 13:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait Death is not yet confirmed, best wait until confirmation of death. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:26, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
BBC has just confirmed his death: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68405119 GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose for now Another police officer approached the scene, aiming a gun at Bushnell off-camera and ordered him to "get on the ground" multiple times is not the kind of claim we can leave without a source. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:01, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Fixed now. Support anything --Aaron Liu (talk) 16:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Since this seems like it's going to fail, I'm changing to strong support, per my comment to JM below. Aaron Liu (talk) 00:04, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose as RD agreeing that since Bushnell was not a notable person with his own article prior to his death. I would oppose this as its own blurb as well since the death is still unconfirmed (per the article) and there are cn tags mike_gigs talkcontribs 14:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I don't think being notable in life is actually a requirement. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    To be fair, WP:ITNRD has no requirements whatsoever, it operates as a loose guideline of "may's" and "should's" and "possibly's", but the relevant section is An individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died may have an entry in the recent deaths (RD) section if it has a biographical Wikipedia article. The current consensus interpreting this guideline is that if the article is not just the subject's name but rather the name and event ("self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell"), then it is not a biographical article/biography of a living person. Under the current policy, if the article were named just "Aaron Bushnell", it would violate WP:BLP1E as the subject is only notable for this one event. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 15:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I can't find the consensus discussion. Would you kindly link it? Aaron Liu (talk) 22:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I don't know of any consensus discussions, but I always read biographical Wikipedia article as meaning an article about a person and not an event, and the last two times that an event article was nominated, it failed on the basis that it was not about a person (the death of a Taylor Swift fan at a concert, and the execution of a man using inert gas). JM (talk) 23:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    IMO it depends on how much biography. This well-written article clearly wouldn't be blurb-worthy and has a substantial section for biography, so I say it wouldn't hurt to just post his name under RD, especially since, unlike the two articles you mention, the identity of the subject is actually important. We shouldn't oppose this just because generally such articles are notable because of something other than the identity of the victim. Plus, a lot of people are probably looking for the article about it (V22 search apparently hasn't indexed it yet), so this satisfies all of ITN-purpose IMO. Aaron Liu (talk) 00:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Death has been confirmed, *Support. nableezy - 14:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    And I added a blurb to the nom, given the wide international coverage I think this merits inclusion. See for example, and each of these is taken from the front page of each source, NYT, BBC, Times of Israel, Le Figaro (French), Al Jazeera (Arabic). nableezy - 16:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose RD WP:ITNRD specifically says that if the article is a "biographical" article, then it is RD. The listed article only has a very short background section outside of the death (for example, it doesn't say when he was born), meaning I don't think the current form of the article is RD. In addition, there are two cn's. If this gets nominated for a blurb, I will reconsider notability there. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Ive add a blurb to the nomination. nableezy - 16:05, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thank you for expanding the article. I'm not sure if this reaches notability requirements for a blurb, although if it inspires wide-spread protests or significant changes in the US then I would support doing so. As the nominator I vote Wait on a blurb, but I still support a RD as I don't see any restriction against pages created for notable or exemplary deaths. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 19:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    WP:ITNRD says the subject needs a biographical Wikipedia article, and this article, being about a death, is an event article. The last two times an event article was nominated, the nomination failed for that reason (Execution of Kenneth Eugene Smith and Death of Ana Clara Benevides). JM (talk) 23:26, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Conditional support for blurb I will support on notability provided one of the following happens: the event causes protests or other such events to occur; or if this is the first ever self-immolation of an active-duty US service member. The second point was previously an unsourced claim in the lead of the article, which has since been removed. If protests occur, we should mention them in the blurb, and if this is the first self-immolation of an active duty US service member, we should also mention that in the blurb. Gödel2200 (talk) 18:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose RD per WP:ITNRD and oppose blurb on notability. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:06, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose blurb on significance. Oppose RD because the individual is not notable. Jehochman Talk 17:00, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose RD because this is not a bio article so doesn't qualify. JM (talk) 17:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also oppose blurb on significance. JM (talk) 19:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support blurb per WaltCip. Oppose RD due to notability issues. Davest3r08 >:) (talk) 18:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nominator Comment I decided to open Template:Did you know nominations/Self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell instead as I'm not sure if it would fit a blurb, and it seems like most are opposed to a RD on prior precedent. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 21:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That’s probably a good solution given the issues here; the current hook is adequate but Godel’s notes on significance may make for solid alt-hooks. The Kip 01:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose both per JM. And I'd classify it as already in the scope of ongoing. Jiaminglimjm (talk) 23:01, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb It may be only my ideology--but we shouldn't have to wait for material results (as in protests) to declare if something is notable enough for ITN. Our duty is to post the most significant of news events into the ITN section. This clearly fits that shoe. DecrepitlyOnward (talk) 02:05, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on notability, for two reasons:
    1. Merely that an otherwise non-notable man publicly killed himself for political reasons and has joined the list of political self-immolations is not sufficiently significant for posting at ITN. This is not the first political self-immolation of a current or former U.S. military member in recent memory (one occurred in 2016 in protest of the VA), nor is it the first self-immolation in protest of military policy to have occurred in recent memory (one occurred in 2014 after Japan began to adopt a more aggressive military posture), nor is the first to have occurred in recent memory in a protest relating to human rights (this sort of thing has been frequent in Tibet; see Self-immolation protests by Tibetans in China for more information on the >100 such cases since 2009).
      Self-immolations catch headlines, but in the grand scheme they don't tend to be that significant. This self-immolation is getting attention because it relates to the war in Gaza, but if this reason alone is why this is getting a nom then is already covered under ongoing. Additionally, we have kept much more significant things (such as the sentencing of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny to the penal camp where he would later die) off of ITN, and I don't see why this act of suicide would be so significant as to merit inclusion here.
    2. This does not meet WP:ITNRD; the article is not a biography, but an article on an event.
Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose RD - this can't be in RD, he has no standalone article and had no article at all before the event. I also oppose on notability. We've never blurbed other self-immolation incidents, why this one? --RockstoneSend me a message! 03:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    How many do you think there are? And in hindsight Mohamed Bouazizi 100000% should have been blurbed. nableezy - 03:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Before comparing Bushnell with Bouazizi, it’s better to take a look at Tunisian revolution and Arab spring. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:35, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support as blurb, oppose as RD per WP:ITNRD. Death has been confirmed and the incident is receiving international coverage; additionally, I don't find arguments of "this other incident/event wasn't blurbed, so therefore this incident/event shouldn't be blurbed" convincing. —Matthew  / (talk) 03:59, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose both. Unknown guy commits suicide. No. Shanes (talk) 06:39, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose RD as not a biographical article, oppose blurb on notability; suicides are sadly very common, and there is nothing particular about this suicide that would make it notable other than perhaps the method, which is rare but not unheard of. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:23, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Not independently notable. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Weak Oppose per Masem (below) as standard nomination. RD isn’t going to happen, because ITN guidelines are clear about no standalone article/BLP existed before the event (even though the Draft:Aaron Bushnell is coming along nicely). I quickly counted approximately 6 or 7 Support votes; 10 to 12 Oppose; 3 or 4 Wait votes. Meanwhile 300,00 page views of Self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell. So clearly this is by any definition In the News. Some of the oppose votes are merely “Crystal Ballers” pontificating or speculating on the larger cultural and historical dimension to all this. Why? Why? I ask again: why? That’s not our job. Our job here is to proofread the relevant article, and if it’s up to standard decide on our vote: Support or Oppose. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 17:14, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    That draft was denied because of the existence of the event article. Per BLP1E it's probably not going to pass. I agree with the rest of your points though. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose both as an RS and as standalone news item. On the latter, one person dying as a form of protest is not ITN news (and I question it's appropriateness per NEVENT) In terms of RD, this is a person that would not have been mutable without their death, which means we should not have an article about the person in the first place per BLP. Masem (t) 17:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support as standard nomination. Is a historic protest. David8a (talk) 18:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    historic? _-_Alsor (talk) 00:18, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Well I agree that this event is currently is In the News but this protest is not blurb worthy and self immolation as a protest is not that uncommon as dozens of Tibetans have done it in past few years. PrinceofPunjabTALK 19:54, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose blurb per Red-tailed hawk. Support RD per the precedent that Brianna Ghey was listed as an RD when the “Murder of Brianna Ghey” article was still at “Killing of Brianna Ghey”. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:20, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support RD with a bit of IAR for article that is not a bio but does contain biographical information - because people will be searching for information about him in light of the self-immolation and there is sufficient information at the article that I feel it meets the spirit of posting to RD - and I oppose blurb as I do not think it meets the level for an event for ITN. It is in the news, but it is a response to (something in ongoing) something that is getting a lot of responses, and though it is a very extreme response, we cannot post every individual protest action. Kingsif (talk) 22:23, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose RD since the airman's death is only notable because of its relevance to the Israel-Hamas War as an act of protest, not because the airman is himself notable. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wikipedia:ITNPURPOSE is to showcase quality articles and provide a shortcut for current events readers might be searching for, so I don't think such is that needed. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Not a notable enough event to rise to the level of ITN. Also covered by ongoing, arguably. Noah, AATalk 21:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose RD as not meeting the criteria, weak oppose on blurb as it still made the news to a level but doesn't rise to the notability we'd expect. Plus one could argue it's covered by Ongoing, but seriously, we'd need a good discussion on what is and isn't covered by it in general. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 02:09, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose it's a dramatic protest by a single person, but still a protest by a single person. Banedon (talk) 02:44, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose I don't think a single suicide, in protest, meets the notability for a blurb. Johndavies837 (talk) 06:17, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Weak Oppose blurb - Per above. Weak as I think the media coverage of this has been to a large extent, but I feel posting a single act of protest, especially suicide, would set a bad precedent. Would we have blurbed Thích Quảng Đức in Vietnam, I wonder? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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(Closed) Maryam Nawaz

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Article: Maryam Nawaz (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Maryam Nawaz makes history as Pakistan's first female Chief Minister of any province. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Maryam Nawaz becomes the first woman to be elected Chief Minister of any province in Pakistan.
Alternative blurb II: Maryam Nawaz is elected Chief Minister of Punjab, the first female in any province of Pakistan.
News source(s): Deccan Herald, The News International, NDTV
Credits:
Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 11:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak Support BLP is well sourced, updated and ready. As the first woman to hold this position in the country's history is indeed significant. IMO, she, as CM, may have more power and influence than the Prime Minister this time but I'm not really sure if this ITN worthy hence weak support. --Saqib (talk) 11:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I also believe that her governance of the country's most populous province (having population of 130 million people), will remain under intense scrutiny, comparable to that of the PM. --Saqib (talk) 12:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Neutral, willing to be convinced - I'm not uniformly against publishing internal political stories. This does feel a bit similar to the First Minister of Northern Ireland case which prompted so much debate recently. But I would like to understand the reasoning better before making a firm !vote. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    There are two reasons for this. Firstly, she is the inaugural female to assume the position of CM in any province of Pakistan. Secondly, as Saqib mentioned earlier, she may amass greater influence in Pakistani politics over the next five years than the Prime Minister. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 12:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To the first, this would be more remarkable if there had not already been a female prime minister of Pakistan. To the second, what she may do in the future is irrelevant, per WP:CRYSTAL. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:34, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose As GenevieveDEon pointed out, there has already been a female Prime Minister of Pakistan (Benazir Bhutto, who served twice). With this in mind, I do not believe this election is notable enough in and of itself. I would only reconsider if it brings about a very significant shift in policy. That being said, the article for Maryam Nawaz does not indicate the election brought about a large change in policy, so I will oppose unless this is changed. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on notability. The article is good, but this is relates to a nation's internal politics, as important as the Punjab province is. I may reconsider if this ends up being of international or large internal significance. Moncoposig (talk) 17:19, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose on significance. There was already a female PM of Pakistan, a CM is a lower level than a PM in Pakistan. JM (talk) 17:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose as it’s not quite as significant when the country as a whole already had a female PM. The Kip 19:18, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per Godel2200. We've seen three Muslim women heads of government across the globe (Haseena, Zia in BD and Bhutto in PK), this is really not internationally significant. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 01:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Benazir Bhutto was PM in Pakistan for about five years in the 1990s, and was the first woman elected to lead Pakistan. Nawaz's achievement is significant for her political career, and for women in Punjab, but I don't see this as novel inasmuch as the PM is a much more senior position. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:13, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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February 25

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Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Charles Dierkop

Article: Charles Dierkop (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
Article updated
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240F:7A:6253:1:C812:ADCD:57DC:A1E0 (talk) 06:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose more than 2 days later and filmogaphy and television sections still both totally uncited. JM (talk) 23:41, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) Liverpool Win EFL Cup

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Article: 2023–24 EFL Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Virgil Van Dijk scores 118th minute goal to win Liverpool F.C the 2023–24 EFL Cup against Chelsea F.C (Post)
News source(s): SKY Sports
Credits:
Heatrave (talk) 16:51, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose, if we're being polite, this is the third biggest football honour in England. There's even a not insignificant point of view to abolish it, like France did with theirs. Good anyway for Liverpool and their fans, who have seen their team win much better trophies recently at any rate. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strong oppose. Minor domestic competition. We already post five club football events each year (see WP:ITNR#Football (association)), more than almost any other sport, and if even if we expanded that to the top 20 the League Cup wouldn't be among them. Modest Genius talk 18:48, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose, its the Energy Drink Cup so its not on WP:ITNSPORTS. That is all. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 18:50, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose The event is a domestic tournament, and is only a qualifying tournament for the UEFA Conference League. If this does get posted, the blurb needs to mention and link to the final match, as that is the only match which includes any sort of prose about the actual play. Gödel2200 (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose it’s a lower-level domestic cup, doesn’t quite meet ITN standards. The Kip 19:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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RD: Chris Nicholl

Article: Chris Nicholl (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Southern Daily Echo
Credits:

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English born footballer who played for Northern Ireland. Fats40boy11 (talk) 18:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support as article looks good and cited. Pksois23 (talk) 13:15, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support The article is well-sourced and is of generally good quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:36, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support well-cited. JM (talk) 23:42, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Patrick Cormack

Article: Patrick Cormack (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Independent
Credits:
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  • Oppose woefully undercited. The Kip 19:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose 3 days later, still under-cited. JM (talk) 23:44, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Zong Qinghou

Article: Zong Qinghou (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): South China Morning Post
Credits:
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  • Oppose for now There is one CN tag in the article. It should be suitable to post once the claim is either sourced or removed. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 22:15, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The citation has been fixed! Microplastic Consumer (talk) 01:31, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Micheline Presle

Article: Micheline Presle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Telegraph via Yahoo!, Deadline, Washington Post, Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Working on getting the references into all those films. In process. Will take a few hours. 7&6=thirteen () 16:08, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment. I've added a lot of references, but finding more may be problematic. Even the Wikipedia articles on the films she appeared in (most of which are French) don't have much sourcing within them. So help would be appreciated. 7&6=thirteen () 21:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment I have added some citations from the BFI Collection Database. There are a lot of her filmography (133 hits). It is a little bit tedious bc I haven't found a way to get a link for all the actress filmography, just a results list from a script after clicking her name in one of her movies. Alexcalamaro (talk) 06:37, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Added a lot of citations. There are over 100 sources now. Should be GTG. 7&6=thirteen () 16:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alexcalamaro Your British Film Institute link gives 14 pages of credits, with approximately 9 or 10 films per page.
T[his is one page of 14.

1La DAME AUX CAMÉLIAS C.C.F.C. (Production company), Raymond Bernard (Director)

1953 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Articles2Blind Date Independent Artists [Production] Limited (Production company), Joseph Losey (Director)

1959 (Copyright) - 1959-09-21 (Release) - United Kingdom - Film - Fiction -

Film / Video materialDigital Posters / DesignsDigital StillsScripts / Documents / EphemeraArticles3Les DERNIERS JOURS DE POMPEI Salvo D'angelo (Production company), Marcel L'Herbier (Director)

1948 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

ArticlesBooks4Le DIABLE AU CORPS Transcontinental Films (Production company), Claude Autant-Lara (Director)

1947 (Release) - France - Film - Fiction -

Film / Video materialDigital StillsScripts / Documents / EphemeraArticlesBooks5Le DIABLE ET LES DIX COMMANDEMENTS Mondex Films (Production company), Julien Duvivier (Director)

1962 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Film / Video materialScripts / Documents / EphemeraArticles6L' ASSASSINO Titanus (Production company), Elio Petri (Director)

1961-04-01 (Release) - Italy - France - Film - Fiction -

Film / Video materialDigital StillsScripts / Documents / EphemeraArticlesBooks7Le BAL DU COMTE D'ORGEL Les Films Marceau (Production company), Marc Allégret (Director)

1970 (Release) - France - Film - Fiction -

Articles8Le BARON DE L'ÉCLUSE Filmsonor (Paris) (Production company), Jean Delannoy (Director)

1960 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Articles9La CHASSE À L'HOMME Filmsonor (Paris) (Production company), Edouard Molinaro (Director)

1964 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Articles10BEATRICE CENCI Franco London Film (Paris) (Production company), Riccardo Freda (Director)

1956 (Release) - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Articles 1

Alexcalamaro Thanks for finding that. I did use it as a cited source in the article. 7&6=thirteen () 21:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Updated. [1]

February 24

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Disasters and accidents

  • In Tanzania, 25 people are killed and 21 more injured on a road linking Arusha to Namanga, after a truck driver lost control of his vehicle causing a collision with three other vehicles. (Barron's)

Politics and elections


RD: Kumar Shahani

Article: Kumar Shahani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): India Today
Credits:
Article updated
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Indian film director and screenwriter. 240F:7A:6253:1:C812:ADCD:57DC:A1E0 (talk) 06:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Kenneth Mitchell (actor)

Article: Kenneth Mitchell (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:
Article updated
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Canadian actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:115F:E0C1:FA0D:4EF5 (talk) 16:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Eric Mays

Article: Eric Mays (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): M-Live, Michigan Now
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
  • Oppose Death section is currently unsourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I've added the sources for the death from here to the article. I still oppose for now since the article still has an orange tag for cleanup. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose far too many uncited statements. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:27, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose as there aren’t enough sources and there is really only a controversy and death section, cleanup tag needs to be addressed Pksois23 (talk) 12:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Article is just controversies, and contains nothing about his early life, career outside of the city council, election(s) to the council, or personal life. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Not an actual biography as currently written. Also, his antics on the city council had made him a minor national celebrity. The M-Live source cited above touches on this, while the article as written fails to do so. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 03:36, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose A biography of a politician ought to tell us what party he represented (or if he was an independent), and what his political positions were. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose more than 4 days since nomination and still tagged. JM (talk) 23:46, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Vyacheslav Lebedev

Article: Vyacheslav Lebedev (Chief Justice) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Meduza, Mediazona
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

(Posted) RD: Stan Bowles

Article: Stan Bowles (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): QPR, BBC, Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

February 23

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology


RD: Jackie Loughery

Article: Jackie Loughery (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

240F:7A:6253:1:C812:ADCD:57DC:A1E0 (talk) 06:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Germany legalises cannabis use

Articles: Cannabis in Germany (talk · history · tag) and German cannabis control bill (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Germany, the Bundestag legalizes recreational cannabis use. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Bundestag legalises recreational cannabis use in Germany.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Bundestag legalises recreational cannabis use in Germany starting on 1 April 2024.
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated

 JM (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Weak oppose While the first major country in Europe to legalize recreational use, it’s not the first overall - Luxembourg and Malta beat them to it. As such I’m not quite sure if it meets ITN standards as a result. The Kip 19:40, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I would point out that Malta and Luxembourg are very small countries though, especially compared to an industrial and economic powerhouse of 80 million people. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:41, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak support on notability Germany is the third EU country and the second G7 country to legalize recreational use. Given that there have only been nine countries to legalize recreational use (according to our table), I think this is notable enough. That being said, we should either reword the blurb, or wait until 1 April 2024, as the legality doesn't take effect until 1 April 2024. Gödel2200 (talk) 19:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support on notability, definitely an unusual and notable event. Agree that it should be either reworded or (preferably) moved to 1 April, plus it's a good day to have "fun" topics like this in the news rather than things like wars and stuff. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support per Gödel. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on notability. This would be the third country in Europe to legalize the use of recreational cannabis, and this particular public policy doesn't have broader implications for the world commmunity. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:30, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It's the first medium-size country in the global north, and April Fool's. Aaron Liu (talk) 11:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    In terms of size or in terms of population? Canada has 40 million people and legalized it in 2018. JM (talk) 16:56, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Canada's big. Germany's the first one in Europe that isn't small to have legalized it. Plus it's good April material. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:11, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support on notability, oppose on quality. I believe this is a big development, and this is much different situation to Luxembourg and Malta given the size and scale of those countries. We posted Canada's legalisation, and it's important to note this isn't decriminalisation like in Czechia or Portugal. I have added citation needed tags to the nominated article, however surely the target article should be German cannabis control bill? Abcmaxx (talk) 07:59, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I agree. It looks good and is more relevant Aaron Liu (talk) 11:53, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Added altblurb2 and article2 to reflect the above. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:25, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait until April 1. That's when the event actually happens, and we'll have time to spruce up the article in the meantime. Cannabis in Germany might be another article worth featuring here, and gives more historical perspective for the past few years! ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 15:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Golden Richards

Article: Golden Richards (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/golden-richards-former-cowboys-super-bowl-winning-receiver-dies-at-age-73/
Article updated
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1970's National Football League wide receiver. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 15:36, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose Citations needed – Muboshgu (talk) 16:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • There are still at least 6 paragraphs with {cn} tags. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 12:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Flaco

Article: Flaco (owl) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
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  • Support Looks ready. RIP. Thriley (talk) 05:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support great article. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:37, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strong support Significant death and article is great. Could even post in news. Pksois23 (talk) 08:23, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Everything is well sourced and article is good. Ready to go. Moncoposig (talk) 13:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strong Oppose. It is a travesty that RD for a person with accomplishments will be replaced by owl.
Personally, I am opposed for RDs for animals or trees. I don't think it should be posted here. BilboBeggins (talk) 22:27, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
BilboBeggins, as with anything, you are welcome to raise the issue at the talk page. Curbon7 (talk) 02:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BilboBeggins: Notability is not treated as a factor in RD nominations, votes should be instead based on the article quality alone. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Shinsadong Tiger

Article: Shinsadong Tiger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Korean Hearld ABC News Variety NME, New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: K-pop Producer and songwriter. Lightoil (talk) 19:10, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Comment there's a few "citation needed" tags that need addressing. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:11, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Abcmaxx I have addressed the tags by adding sources. Lightoil (talk) 19:41, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support Looks good now. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:11, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jack Biddle

Article: Jack Biddle (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yellowhammer News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Recently created article. Served 32 years in the Alabama Legislature. Kafoxe (talk) 19:02, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Manohar Joshi

Article: Manohar Joshi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Maharashtra Chief Minister and Lok Sabha Speaker. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose for now There are several unsourced claims in the article. They should be improved before posting. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose for now Article needs some work, but it looks almost ready otherwise. Moncoposig (talk) 16:06, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Added "citation needed" tags. Far too many unsourced statements. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:16, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose full of CN tags. JM (talk) 23:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

References

Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process.

For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents:

  1. ^ Bernstein, Adam (February 22, 2024). "Micheline Presle, French movie star of 'Devil in the Flesh,' dies at 101". Washington Post. The 1947 drama about wartime adultery became an international sensation and brought her a Hollywood contract