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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yoast It may be kept]; [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Moz_(marketing_software) it may be deleted] later. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>]] ([[User talk:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#000">☎</b>]])</span> 14:49, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yoast It may be kept]; [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Moz_(marketing_software) it may be deleted] later. Stealth deletion is for real. Nobody from the prior vote was aware or showed up. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>]] ([[User talk:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#000">☎</b>]])</span> 14:49, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

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ARS Code of Conduct
  • Note that this wikiproject is only intended to improve the encyclopedia. The project is not about casting votes or vote-stacking. Be sure to follow the guideline on canvassing. This means, in part, that you should use Template:Rescue list on the deletion discussion page when you list the discussion here.
  • Focus on improving content. For example, when working on an article listed for rescue, try to qualify topic notability by adding reliable-source references with significant coverage of the topic. Edit the content to address specific concerns raised in the AfD discussion.
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May have references in old, out of print sources given the age of the game. BOZ (talk) 05:18, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May have references in board game sources for the various games in this series. BOZ (talk) 05:18, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here, we are mainly concerned with rescuing articles from deletion but this tends to mean that we're usually working on weak, obscure topics. But even the most vital topics are in need of assistance and here's a topical example. Stonehenge is in the news and so I just nominated it at ITN. But already there's some opposition, saying that the article doesn't have enough references. As the ARS specialises in such work, members might like to try this high-end, vital topic for a change. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:42, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? 110 references isn't enough? YGBSM 7&6=thirteen () 12:02, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ITN/C is a strange place. For another recent example, Carl Reiner is another vital topic with even more references but this wasn't enough for some and so the subject was denied an entry in ITN's list of recent deaths. But over a million readers read his article regardless. Go figure... Andrew🐉(talk) 12:40, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Been there and done that. I know. Doctor John was another one I was also involved with. Perverse thinking, IMO. 7&6=thirteen () 14:08, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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American sportswriter, mainly in newspapers. Wrote a monumental history of American football and was an advocate for racial integration in sports. If anyone has a Newspapers.com subscription (which I do not) and would like to contribute, please do! AleatoryPonderings (talk) 20:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This looks serious. We'll need to mobilise Dumbledore's Army, the Scooby Gang, Ferris Bueller, the Owl of the Remove, the Bash Street Gang and the hellions of St Trinians! Andrew🐉(talk) 19:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is this Australian Shipbuilding Company worth saving? Or ought it be merged into various parent companies? To paraphrase George Tenet, finding reliable sources should be a "slam dunk". But we know how that prediction about WMDs in Iraq worked out. 7&6=thirteen () 20:03, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Hamilton McWhorter.jpg
McWhorter III. Double-ace.

Another pilot is in peril. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Hamilton McWhorter III 7&6=thirteen () 00:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Kept AFD closed as keep. Nomination withdrawn. 7&6=thirteen () 12:44, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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I trimmed some of the fat, but this article still needs to go on a diet. Lightburst (talk) 19:08, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Looks notable to me. I have added RS Lightburst (talk) 23:53, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Deleted Per the closer: "The result was delete. I see this was listed for rescue by a COI editor and a bunch of rescue regulars voted to keep with assertive arguments. I'm not going to give those votes much weight. The delete side has given a detailed source analysis showing they fall short and has reviewed their votes after improvement. Consensus to delete is therefore solid." 7&6=thirteen () 18:58, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Ellwood Walter was President of the Mercantile Mutual Insurance Company in New York for 28 years. The New York pilot boat Ellwood Walter, No. 7 was named after him. He was a trustee for the Nautical School for the harbor of New York to educate boys in seamanship and navigation. He was Vice-President of the New York Seamen’s Association. He was awarded a silver medal and money by the American Benevolent Life Saving Society of New York. I assume sourcing can be improved, although I think that it suffices. 7&6=thirteen () 17:16, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure that it was posted here. Had to withstand serial nominations for AFD. first nomination and 2nd nomination. But it was expanded and successfully rescued. User:Lightburst deserves a shout out. 7&6=thirteen () 15:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Albanese Candy

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On 20 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Albanese Candy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Albanese Candy makes gummy confectioneries in the shape of worms, snakes, butterflies, khaki-colored soldiers, and jet fighter aircraft? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Albanese Candy. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Albanese Candy), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks to 7&6=thirteen for getting so many articles that we have improved on the main page. I was excited to see the gummy bear company make it through the process! Thanks 7&6!
  1. Albanese Candy
  2. Benno Bikes
  3. Democracy Manifest
  4. Bertha Boronda
  5. Elizabeth L. Gardner
  6. Richard Haine
  7. Daniella van Graas

Lightburst (talk) 15:39, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I know you missed:
  1. S.W. Randall Toyes and Giftes
And probably others.
Our success at rescuing articles, expanding them, and taking them to the main page is a way to prove the worth of WP:ARS. It is the perfect answer to the self identified naysayers and disparagers. 7&6=thirteen () 16:05, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The Hunters in the Snow by Dutch painter Pieter Bruegel

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL

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A change is as good as a rest so here's a different sort of pilot. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Both sides make compelling arguments. Let's have some more input. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 17:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC) 7&6=thirteen () 18:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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*Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL
*Andy Auld (Royal Navy officer) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion

not yet a 2nd afd. But it's in play. 7&6=thirteen () 13:48, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note that three of us found our way there because its on our watchlist, before this was tagged for assistance in finding more reliable sources to prove it is notable. Dream Focus 14:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is all about trashing the DYK. See here. In Wikipedia and DYK, life really is a zero sum game. 7&6=thirteen () 14:09, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Saddens me. I think Wikipedia is better with the article. And I think there can be a new local consensus---perhaps the dyk process is just that consensus. Lightburst (talk) 14:44, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It was SD and I started a thread with the admin who deleted the article -JzG Lightburst (talk) 15:18, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It was contested by three wikipedia regulars, and it was speedily deleted. Out of process by an interested party, IMO. A second AFD discussion at least should have been required. not same article that was deleted before. Surely there is a way to contest/appeal this high-handed buggery. 7&6=thirteen () 15:24, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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This is an actual thing, and nothing to do with how American's use the word adult to refer to porn, but instead an actual genre. Need help finding more reliable sources for the entries on the list. Dream Focus 12:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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We take refrigerators and air conditioning for granted nowadays but it wasn't always like this... Andrew🐉(talk) 11:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The picture's good enough for me but others want more. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Picture was copyrighted. And the AFD continues. I've posted it In the News candidates so there is some urgency in getting this resolved. But that is itself a trippy process. "You don't need a weatherman to see which way the wind blows" 7&6=thirteen () 20:05, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the News candidates rejected it. As I said, that is quirky, and they look for excuses to not run it. The AFD didn't help. Will do a DYK. 7&6=thirteen () 11:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Did you know nominations/Tulolope Arotile 7&6=thirteen () 00:56, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Long time law professor. Many influential articles. 7&6=thirteen () 16:01, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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SkyscraperCity Fifth nomination

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  • This one is a website for tall buildings 9 world's largest online forum on skyscrapers) The article claims "As of 2019, the forum has over 1 million members, 1 million threads and over 110 million posts." Let us see what we can do to fix it. Lightburst (talk) 21:42, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Spanish Rat terrier. I've added sources, but they are all foreign language. Spanish speakers might help. 7&6=thirteen () 14:12, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator – notability established by Neodop. Not yet acted on. 7&6=thirteen () 12:03, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep; withdrawn by nominator." 7&6=thirteen () 11:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Kept. But there is an ongoing discussion about purging the sources here. 7&6=thirteen () 18:50, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This was founded to educate business leaders about what was happening to their country – that it was becoming too "militaristic and aggressive" and that this was causing massive waste. This was a time of cover-ups and whistleblowers. Plus ça change... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:25, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

James D. Marks second nomination

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  • Seems I can find information rather easily. Activist, inventor: went to Columbia and has a page there. Check out his patents.

Was a keep in 2014. Lightburst (talk) 17:58, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Team players wanted. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:43, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not sure I'm brave enough to search for sources using these keywords. It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it! Andrew🐉(talk) 08:57, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep." The first AFD was a "speedy keep" but the second was not. 7&6=thirteen () 13:50, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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You thought the virus was bad? The Black Death has just said "Hold my beer!" As you'll be hearing more about this, it's good to be well informed... Andrew🐉(talk) 19:05, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This place burnt down once before but was saved. Can it be saved again? Andrew🐉(talk) 16:03, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is an informative article. I say any building that can be in continuous use for 151 years is encyclopedic. I started to fix it up! Lightburst (talk) 00:05, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I approached the admin and asked to reopen after he closed as merge. I have been actively working on the article. It seems the admin has now put a merger discussion on the article. Lightburst (talk) 16:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The article is in little danger of deletion but will be enjoyable to research and expand. See also the European Beer Star. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:28, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This is not just a perennial pawn in the great game. It's a chance to learn about concepts like catachresis and cacography. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:23, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This could use attention from some experienced editors who understand AfD/article rescue. —valereee (talk) 18:19, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This escaped into the wild too early, unreferenced. I see hope of making it pass it's current AfD if sufficient clever folk can reference it. Note the alternate spelling Shubhro Fiddle Faddle 16:17, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This is an amusing analogy for Wikipedia – a complex, shifting reality which keeps changing in a protean way but never makes complete sense while none of the versions and revisions ever really go away. The best summary I've of it seen so far is that "it's all true!". What it really means that the authors and editors can do whatever they like – just like Wikipedia, eh? Andrew🐉(talk) 19:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some more sources but whether it is enough to save it I don't know. Theroadislong (talk) 16:57, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Did you know nominations/Hypertime 7&6=thirteen () 15:44, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep. WP:HEY" 7&6=thirteen () 19:44, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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I found some some good sources in Google Scholar but when I try Google Books, it suggests State of Fear! Andrew🐉(talk) 10:40, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to Dream Focus, I now understand what Google was getting at. See small penis rule. Andrew🐉(talk) 00:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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There is no pending AFD. Rather, a user is simply editing it out of existence. Doing indirectly that which he can't do directly. See Talk:Cthulhu Mythos deities article talk page. 7&6=thirteen () 18:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep 7&6=thirteen () 21:47, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Having a real hard time finding sources. Anybody got a newspapers.com account? 7&6=thirteen () 21:10, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea, I also have a Newspaper account I shared with 7&6. I also improved the article a bit. Lightburst (talk) 22:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted. 7&6=thirteen () 21:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Kept Per the closer: "The result was no consensus. No further comments after the article was improved." 7&6=thirteen () 16:10, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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It's snowing in June, 3 days before Summer Solstice. Yippee! 7&6=thirteen () 18:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Suparatana Bencharongkul Second nomination

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  • A young woman who is a leader in the field of agriculture. Many of the sources are foreign language, but I managed to find quite a few english sources. The article could use our help. Lightburst (talk) 19:06, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Per the nominator: "SPEEDY KEEP Nomination withdrawn after the massive improvement of the article. It is a great pity that the article was sitting here tagged for freaking 5 years! Where have y'all been before?" Not yet closed. 7&6=thirteen () 20:20, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This article was nominated for deletion on 14 June 2020. The result of the discussion was Speedy Keep. Per the closer: "The result was Speedy Keep. Nominator has withdrawn, unanimous consent to Keep, helpful advice has been given, no reason to keep this up any longer. (non-admin closure)" 7&6=thirteen () 10:52, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) 7&6=thirteen () 11:34, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Southern Vietnam village. See WP:NGEO. 7&6=thirteen () 14:33, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Imagine if galleries allowed members of the public to destroy the works that they didn't appreciate. That would be a scandal. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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—valereee (talk) 11:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Lessons learnt

It may be kept; it may be deleted later. Stealth deletion is for real. Nobody from the prior vote was aware or showed up. 7&6=thirteen () 14:49, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]