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Africa
- 2017 South Sudan Supreme Airlines Antonov An-26 crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Per WP:NOTNEWS. From what I've been able to find, only primary sources exist on the event with barely any/no secondary sources existing on the event. The event does not have in-depth nor continued coverage with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the crash. No lasting effects nor long-term impacts have been demonstrated as a result of the accident. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:47, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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- •Merge . I believe due to there being no notable injuries nor fatalities that this incident is not notable, the article should be merged into An-26 Accidents and Incidents along with the shortening of the accidents and incidents catalouge in South Sudan Supreme Airlines for this accident, i'll try to lengthen the original catalouge in the An-26 page to compensate for the shortening of the original catalouge. Lolzer3000 (talk) 18:00, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would say that it should be merged per WP:NOTNEWS. ‹hamster717🐉› (discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠) 22:20, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have a merge target in mind? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 05:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- • Comment My apoligies for not making the merge target clear, i'd like to merge it into the accident and incidents page for the An-26, since its already in the catalouge for Wau Airport, i'll expand the Wau Airport entry with basic information from this article to pertain it. Lolzer3000 (talk) 14:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's okay, no need to apologize. I understood the merge target you proposed, I was just wondering what merge target user Hamterous1 had in mind.
- And unrelated to that, welcome back :) Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:36, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Got it, happy to see you again, i'll be more active in this AFD category from now on along with the 2024 in aviation article. Lolzer3000 (talk) 17:43, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- • Comment My apoligies for not making the merge target clear, i'd like to merge it into the accident and incidents page for the An-26, since its already in the catalouge for Wau Airport, i'll expand the Wau Airport entry with basic information from this article to pertain it. Lolzer3000 (talk) 14:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have a merge target in mind? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 05:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Philippe Beaulne (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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11 years after the last AfD, a search for sources today yielded very little despite claims he gets significant coverage. Nothing in google news and only 1 line mentions in google books. Fails WP:BIO. Ambassadors are not inherently notable. LibStar (talk) 06:04, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Even looking in Canadian sources, I can only find an obituary in Gnews, then in general Gsearch, this wiki page, gov't websites and social media. Nothing to suggest notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Per lack of SIGCOV. There's nothing in the article to suggest notability, and I couldn't find anything in my searches. Yilloslime (talk) 04:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Bagrou (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can find sources for similarly-named places, but not where I can be sure it is the one this is about. Happy to withdraw if the information can be verified. Boleyn (talk) 17:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, the town's name in Arabic; "بكرو" can be translated as "Bogué" which is a real place (Google Maps) There is also an account of a visit to the town on this blog. Microplastic Consumer (talk) 21:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Adel Bagrou, and clean up {{Communes of Mauritania}} to remove the duplicate.
- The Arabic wiki entry linked to this article, w:ar:بكرو, says (Google translated)
- "Adl Bakrou is a district and municipality located in Hodh Ech Chargui State in Mauritania".
- The Arabic wiki entry linked to Adel Bagrou, w:ar:عدل بكرو, says (Google translated)
- "Adel Bagrou (French: Adel Bagrou), an administrative center in the Hodh El Chargui region , in the southeastern region of Mauritania, located on the border with Mali , in 2000 its population was 36,007..."
- The place is clearly the sizable town and commune in Hodh Ech Chargui Region. (The Bogué (بوكى) found on the map by a Google search is spelled differently in Arabic and is far to the west of Hodh Ech Chargui Region.)
- Alternatively, move to Adel Bagrou (Commune) and clean up, and change Adel Bagrou to only discuss the town. There are plenty of results from a search on عدل_بكرو with information like: "Prime Minister, Mr. Mohamed Ould Bilal Messoud, laid the foundation stone today, Friday, in the Adl Bakrou district for the road linking the cities of Adl Bakrou and Amerj in the Hodh El Chargui state." Aymatth2 (talk) 14:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- List of telecommunications companies in the Middle East and Africa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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What wikipedia is not, is not a WP:NOTADIRECTORY which this article clearly is. Govvy (talk) 15:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- keep. A reasonable navigation tool; only remove items without wikipedia articles. --Altenmann >talk 17:42, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Again, like I replied in the other article, Navigation tool? What's wrong with a category or a template? That doesn't really seem like a valid argument for keeping the article. It still violates NOTADIRECTORY. Govvy (talk) 23:05, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Guinea-Bissau–Spain relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Declined prod. This article is almost exclusively based on the Spanish Ministry of Foreign Affairs website (may have even be copied in direct translation). I could not find third party coverage to meet GNG. LibStar (talk) 23:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. Some fragmented information about the topic can be found in third-party sources. There is room for growth/improvement.--Asqueladd (talk) 13:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)\
- Comment. Should never have been prodded. Prod is only for trivial cases. This is not trivial! gidonb (talk) 21:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nom. While there are couple non-government sources, the coverage is extremely trivia/routine. Yilloslime (talk) 16:29, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Asqueladd. gidonb (talk) 07:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - the article has plenty of material on diplomacy, foreign aid and trade. I added a chapter of the role of Spain as one of the foremost opponents of Guinea-Bissau independence. --Soman (talk) 19:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Mlaka Maliro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:GNG. Can't find sufficient sources to establish notability in any context. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep or
Redirect to: Music_of_Malawi#Lucius_Banda,_Evison_Matafale_and_Mlaka_Maliro I found lots of GNG. WP:NMUSICIAN states that:
Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart
: in this case, subject had the album titled Dzanja Lalemba that was the bestseller 14 years ago countrywide. Subject is also the pioneer of Malawi Contemporary Music and one of the country's notable musician [1]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-soldier-set-for-stage-reunion/.Has released two or more albums on a major record label
: subject has released 13 albums under the renowed and the first band in Malawi, the Zembani Band, owned by Lucius Banda [2]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-soldier-set-for-stage-reunion/, [3]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-rolls-back-hands-of-time/ . I found this that talks about subject. I also found records in printed books, see here, and this in Dutch , this too, etc. To me this provides GNG that can be used to sustain the article per WP:NEXIST.--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 11:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Educational Basketball (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed draftification, whcih leaves AfD as the route for articles with insufficient referencing and failing WP:GNG. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete with no opposition to draftify, but my BEFORE doesn't show any promise this passes NCORP as I did't find any sources about the organization that satisfied all three of independent, reliable and SIGCOV. Though, happy to be proven wrong by a demonstration of WP:THREE, as always. Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep as it is mentioned in multiple sources. As an academy it has produced some upcoming notable players. LocomotiveEngine (talk) 10:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)- • Keep the worthy subject matter . Article has abundant sources and produces up and coming athletes. GraceAndFavor improving on this by citing sources. GraceAndFavor (talk) 13:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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)KeepGraceAndFavor working on Article and good sources for this relevant note worthy sports program~~~~
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Relisting comment: Relisting, I wouldn't call 2 sources "abundant sources" and the purpose of this group doesn't help establish its notability. A source review would be helpful.
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- Delete First two sources are namedrops, the last two are not independent, and while the third source does cover the academy somewhat with only one usable source WP:NORG is not met here. Let'srun (talk) 03:24, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Africa Proposed deletions
- Evans Brima Gbemeh (via WP:PROD on 11 September 2023)
Algeria
- Ilyes Boughalem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete or redirect to List of world championships medalists in powerlifting (men). No significant coverage of Boughalem. Anyone who competes in powerlifting (local to international) can be included to All Powerlifting and Open Powerlifting, the cited websites.
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Angola
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Democratic Republic of the Congo
Egypt
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Ghana
- Gideon Ofori Offei (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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BLPsources-tagged for two years. Failure of WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Games in Europe came in lower divisions, except for 44 minutes in Albania's highest league. I only found coverage in databases, match reports, primary sources or unreliable rumours. The closest things to significant coverage was this (with no prose whatsoever) and this (primary source). Geschichte (talk) 08:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Godenu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Some of the sources linked in the article (like the first and third) don't even mention "Godenu". The fourth source mentions Godenu only once, as the "Gbi-Godenu Volta Region IFAD/SCIMP Project", seemingly a different thing. The second source does mention Godenu, but it's pretty brief. Other sources linked aren't reliable or aren't independent. I can find mentions of Godenu, like in this article, but that's it. toweli (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep I don't see any reason to delete this, the problem is it should probably be at Gbi-Godenu instead of its current title. Searching the ruler brings up multiple hits even once you scroll past the primary ones. SportingFlyer T·C 22:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per toweli's comments. There's no significant coverage about this article. Galaxybeing (talk) 10:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom, and because RS don’t support this. —Greens vs. Blacks (talk) 04:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and Rename per Sporting Flyer and:
https://www.royalhouseofgodenu.org/Godenu/ https://www.gbiviwo.com/gbi-godenu-chiefs-queens https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/V-R-Ensure-proper-training-for-recruits-to-save-lives-ndash-Gbi-Godenu-divisional-chief-1836368 https://gna.org.gh/2023/08/clashes-between-gbi-godenu-residents-and-police-leave-two-dead-one-injured/ http://1900.ethnia.org/polity.php?ASK_CODE=GHTF&ASK_YY=1945&ASK_MM=04&ASK_DD=15&SL=en[] https://ghanaiantimes.com.gh/2-die-1-injured-12-arrested-following-clashes-between-police-residents-in-hohoe/ Djflem (talk) 18:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Kenya
- Martha Mbugua (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No satisfactory sources in the article, and a quick search didn't find any. Note: this was prompted by a request at the help desk on behalf of the subject. ColinFine (talk) 18:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Also found this in the help desk, for me personally, I suggest keeping the article, my reason is because she co-founded (is that correct?) the biggest law firm in Kenya, and is one of the top 40 most popular women from Kenya.
Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
01:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- User:TheNuggeteer, more important than your opinion on this subject is how you would counter the reasons offered in the deletion rationale. What sources support your claim of notability? Please be specific. Liz Read! Talk! 05:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, sources 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 are the sources which prompt me to give the "keep" reply. She does not seem notable outside the business, I'll give you that, but being one of the top 40 women from a country is enough for me.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
05:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)- @TheNuggeteer, please read what Wikipedia means by notable. 2 and 6 do not mention her. 3 and 7 (which are the same source) has a potted biography, but is mostly quoting her. 5 gives me a 404, but judging by its title, I would be amazed if it had significant coverage of her. 8 and 9 give potted biographies, but are almost certainly not independent.
- Sources used to establish notability need to meet all three criteria in WP:42. ColinFine (talk) 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, sources 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 are the sources which prompt me to give the "keep" reply. She does not seem notable outside the business, I'll give you that, but being one of the top 40 women from a country is enough for me.
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- My comments only: Firstly, several of the sources are actually the same. Secondly, appearing in a list of “40 under 40” is not the same thing as “one of the 40 most popular women.” Finally, we need to decide whether being a partner in Dentons, by far the largest law firm in the World, creates a legal notability by itself. This discussion might have to go more than a few days. In the meantime, please ping me if you find additional sources. Bearian (talk) 08:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Non-notable at this time, agreeing with the reasons that the sources used in the article and an online search of the name do not show significant coverage in independent sources. Another thing she is a member, doesn't look like a partner at Denton's through its acquisition of Hamilton Harrison & Mathews Law Firm; additionally, notability is not inherited, as is the case with her and Dentons Law Firm. Prof.PMarini (talk) 11:55, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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Libya
Mauritius
Morocco
- Jamal Zougam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP1E. Merge content where appropriate into 2004 Madrid train bombings, then redirect the page. Longhornsg (talk) 06:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment judging from the Spanish article, it's likely that if the main article was brought to FA level comprehensiveness a biography should be written on him per size split reasons, given that he is one of the key figures in one of the deadliest terror attacks ever. So, if this is merged, I would not oppose it being split out again at some time. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also, he does have (not counting life sentences), the third longest prison sentence of all time. I feel that is perhaps a claim to notability. From what I'm looking at an article could definitely be written on him - BLP1E is for low level crimes, not ones that kill nearly 200 people. The other two conditions of the policy are the person being a "low profile individual" (he is not) and that the event not be a SIGNIFICANT historical event in which the role of the person is well documented (he is). So he does not fail BLP1E. With more notorious cases there are often the sources to write both, and the reason he is the one with an article is because he seemed to be one of the more prominent figures. Same reason we have an article on Mohamed Atta. So either keep or merge for now. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge the article to 2004 Madrid train bombings. Delete the person. Polygnotus (talk) 12:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- 2004 Madrid train bombings suspects (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete or redirect to 2004 Madrid train bombings. Besides the WP:BLP considerations, absolutely no need for a separate page for this content per WP:PAGEDECIDE. Longhornsg (talk) 06:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to the main article. Not actually as many BLP issues as I thought from the title, just a list of those convicted + one high profile very studied false arrest. The main article actually does not have a list of the men convicted of directly perpetrating the attack. The other sections are perhaps unnecessary but I feel a list of the main perpetrators would improve the main article. It appears unsourced but it is sourced to the Guardian article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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Nigeria
- Josiah Akinloye (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG or any SNG, the sources are not speaking for the subject in question. Largely lacking WP:SIGCOV in WP:RSes. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Galactic Theme (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NALBUM. Sources are announcements of the album or unreliable. CNMall41 (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: While the sources are reliable, the pieces are unreliable. I can't rely on a news piece that lacks a byline. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yoruba Ronu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is very much in alignment of WP:NOTNEO. This NPOV-violating article fails GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:27, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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Total failure of WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Barely had any career, played 8 games in a semi-pro league with match attendances of a couple hundred. Nothing comes up in a search, in fact the top three hits are this Wikipedia page, Linked In and Facebook. Geschichte (talk) 20:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom; very minimal professional football participation and no substantial coverage. Walsh90210 (talk) 22:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Azarctic (talk) 01:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:15, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. No independent, reliable sources found to show significant coverage and prove notability. Prof.PMarini (talk) 15:15, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Nothing to establish WP:SPORTCRIT here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Joel Osikel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability-tagged for two years. U17 player whose career didn't really pan out. Failure of WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. I only found coverage in databases, match reports or primary sources. The closest things to significant coverage was this (does not give in-depth info about him), this, this and this (short, little significance) Geschichte (talk) 08:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - best source appears to be the transfer announcement already in the article, not enough for GNG Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. One of those article about football players, the subject of whom, outside of self-published sources and stats page that mirror each other do not have enough independent reliable sources to prove notability. Prof.PMarini (talk) 14:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: No evidence of notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oyinkansola "foza" Fawehinmi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources are announcements, statements, interview and trivial mentions. Fails WP:GNG and all other relevant notability criteria. Ednabrenze (talk) 08:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep, Sources 1 and 10 talk about her book; while not reviews, they are in RS and go a bit in depth into her career. Those are about the best sources I can pull up as well. Oaktree b (talk) 19:18, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I am very okay with the current sources, some which provides SIGCOV in her works/career. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Peller (comedian) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A Stub-class assessed article, Not notable to be on mainspace, from the references provided, article fails WP:SIGCOV, no in-depth information as regards to weather it should be kept on Wikipedia as a stand alone article, there are little references from secondary sources, seams very promotional and I think it should be deleted, all I see is mentions and references about social media “Tiktok” which has nothing to do with Notability on Wikipedia. Getreallycool (talk) 22:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. Reading Beans 08:32, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete no SIGCOV. Alexeyevitch(talk) 04:21, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The entry passes the general notability guidelines per these sources here.
- Okanlawon, Taiwo (2 June 2024). "Five things you need to know about Peller". PM News. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
- Akinyemi, Femi (17 April 2024). "Peller: Teenage sensation taking digital world by storm". Nigerian Tribune. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
- Okanlawon, Taiwo (30 May 2024). "Meet Peller; TikTok newest sensation". PM News. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
- Alabi, Taiwo (13 February 2024). "The TikTok Titans of Nigeria: Top 5 Creators Making Waves". TheNEWS. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
I want to note that no form of WP:BEFORE was made by this apparently very new user before nominating an article for deletion. There argument that it is a stub article has nothing to do with notability nor does being a TikTok personality prevent one from being notable as noted in their nomination. Best, Reading Beans 07:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: An "aspiring top streamer" per the the Nigerian Tribune source used in the article confirms this is TOOSOON. The rest are "meet the celebrity" articles... For someone taking the world by storm, there is a lack of coverage outside of Nigeria. Only new coverage I can find is that this person bought a Mercedes [4], which is nothing notable. I wish them well, but we're not quite at notability yet. Oaktree b (talk) 18:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep. I wouldn't consider all of Reading Beans' sources to be WP:SIGCOV, but this one and this one are and contribute to a bare pass of WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:58, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: After a WP:BEFORE, this does meet GNG. They're multiple sources online that significantly covers the subject. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 19:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Further comment on newly found sources would be helpful. By the way, nominator has been blocked as a suspected sockpuppet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)- Second source looks fine, I'm not sure if it's a RS... Still feels TOOSOON. Oaktree b (talk) 00:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- I usually don’t like replying !voters but I don’t think you’re doing any WPBEFORE here. PM News is a national daily newspaper in Nigeria and your stance about the subject being TOOSOON when there are significant in-depth coverage from reliable sources is something I still do not understand and that is because our opinion differs. Anyways, here’s another source from ThisDay—a national daily newspaper too. here. If you want to make a search about him to find more sources, you can use this this. Best, Reading Beans 05:48, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Second source looks fine, I'm not sure if it's a RS... Still feels TOOSOON. Oaktree b (talk) 00:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Per Nom, it’s TOOSOON as Oaktree b said. It seams the page creator has a possible COI, secondly the page creator has other editors who gives him back up, I demand an admin should review the relatable similar contributions between the page creator and most of the user who has edited this page. 105.113.12.201 (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — 105.113.12.201 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Egbema tribe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Stub article with only one source, poor formatting. While possibly notable, it should be draftified at the very least to be remade. LR.127 (talk) 10:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Withdrawn by nominator - I think these sources brought up are enough to prove notability for a standalone article. I may expand the article myself soon, using open sources (and if anyone has access to The Wikipedia Library, I would appreciate their help expanding the article with sources they can find as well). LR.127 (talk) 17:49, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete or keep . The article is 16 years old. No one is going to fix an article that old if it is draftspace so at that point that's just putting it in limbo. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete pending evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable publications. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 20:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Yamaguchi先生, can you take a look now? Best, Reading Beans 06:44, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above, although you could redirect it to Ijaw people. Bearian (talk) 02:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep. These sources make some mention of this tribe [5][6], there seems to be at least a small room for improvement here. Badbluebus (talk) 18:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: While this article needs expansion for clarity, there are multiple publications to keep it from being deleted:
- Ike, Eruali Ukachukwu (2009). The People and Culture of the Egbema Kingdom. University of Port Harcourt Press. ISBN 9789789003501.
- Tiemọ, G. O. E. (1968). Egbema-Ịjọ Customs and Traditions. Institute of African Studies, University of Ibadan. OCLC 112682.
- Williamson, Kay (1974). Reading and Writing Egbema. OCLC 63300648.
- Onyige, Peter Usutu (1979). The Impact of Mineral Oil Exploitation on Rural Communities in Nigeria: The Case of Ogba/Egbema District (Thesis). University of Birmingham.
- Alagoa, Ebiegberi Joe (2005). A History of the Niger Delta: An Historical Interpretation of Ijo Oral Tradition. University of Michigan. pp. 42–45. ISBN 9789783731455.
- Nnadozie, Emmanuel U. (1995). Oil and Socioeconomic Crisis in Nigeria: A Regional Perspective to the Nigerian Disease and the Rural Sector. Edwin Mellen Press. pp. 44–49. ISBN 9780773442405.
I believe that this could be considered as significant coverage. Best, Reading Beans 06:43, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The essence of AfD is to determine whether a subject merits a standalone page, which in this case it is clear that Egbema tribe merits one. For God’s sake, AfD is not cleanup and articles shouldn’t be sent to AfD if they are clearly notable. It is also clear that a BEFORE wasn’t done. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:23, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- "It is clear that Egbema tribe merits [a standalone page]" ... "they are clearly notable" how so?
- I find this comment a bit vague, sorry - could you say more? Cheers. LR.127 (talk) 19:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- I do not have to say anything more. AfD is not a place to tell us an article needs more sources; it is a place to determine whether a subject notable or not. You have to read the WP:AFD page to familiarise yourself with what it is about. The Egbema tribe in Nigeria is clear-cut notable ethnic group, you're not a Nigerian and as such you cannot tell. I hate seeing things like this at AfD, it utterly sucks. If an article relies on largely or entirely on a single source then tag it, if it has already been tagged and you come across it, you either fix it yourself or you leave it alone, or with a good faith, ask at a noticeboard for example the talk page of WikiProject Nigeria where you might find users who would be willing to do the work of researching and finding more details. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. There are several pages about the Egbema in one of the papers in the book The Izon of the Niger Delta (Google link for convenience; if you have access to Muse via the Wikipedia Library or otherwise, then the whole book is accessible there). The book The Igbo and the Tradition of Politics also has a paper about "The Political Arrangement of the Egbema Community". Combined with the titles of some of the works given by Reading Beans above, it appears that there is WP:SIGCOV in reliable academic sources. --RL0919 (talk) 16:41, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per RL0919 detailed presentation. Ednabrenze (talk) 15:29, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Educational Basketball (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed draftification, whcih leaves AfD as the route for articles with insufficient referencing and failing WP:GNG. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete with no opposition to draftify, but my BEFORE doesn't show any promise this passes NCORP as I did't find any sources about the organization that satisfied all three of independent, reliable and SIGCOV. Though, happy to be proven wrong by a demonstration of WP:THREE, as always. Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep as it is mentioned in multiple sources. As an academy it has produced some upcoming notable players. LocomotiveEngine (talk) 10:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)- • Keep the worthy subject matter . Article has abundant sources and produces up and coming athletes. GraceAndFavor improving on this by citing sources. GraceAndFavor (talk) 13:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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)KeepGraceAndFavor working on Article and good sources for this relevant note worthy sports program~~~~
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- Delete First two sources are namedrops, the last two are not independent, and while the third source does cover the academy somewhat with only one usable source WP:NORG is not met here. Let'srun (talk) 03:24, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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Somalia
- Asasey Hotel attack (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NEVENT no lasting coverage. Cannot find any coverage of the event after July except for trivial one line mentions in articles discussing other attacks. Closest thing I could find was this: https://www.kormeeraha.com/2021/03/12/canadian-school-renamed-after-hodan-nalayeh/ but it is about a victim more than the attack.
Unfortunately hotel attacks are a common incident in Somalia and just aren't very notable. Could be merged into Hodan Nalayeh, al-Shabaab, or the Somali civil war Traumnovelle (talk) 04:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to 2019 timeline of the Somali Civil War. Or redirect, it's already mentioned there. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep and do not merge. Hotel attacks are not a common incident in Somalia just as school shootings are not in the United States, despite what is suggested from news coverage. An attack in which 25+ people are killed is not WP:ROUTINE and there was international news coverage of the attack in global RS including FT, NYT, CNN, AP, BBC, Reuters, etc. More than enough coverage to establish WP:GEOSCOPE, WP:DEPTH, and WP:GNG for WP:NEVENT. Longhornsg (talk) 04:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Longhornsg But not WP:SUSTAINED which is one of the more important aspects in WP:NEVENT. There is nothing after a month. Death toll is not notability, plenty of even higher casualty attacks are not notable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per sources brought up. @PARAKANYAA:: articles are not required to meet GNG and every applicable SNG but GNG or any applicable SNG. This doesn't have lasting consequences, but it does have plenty of coverage in reliable sources. — Alien333 ( what I did
why I did it wrong ) 21:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)- WP:GNG states sources should be secondary. All the sourcing appears to be primary sourcing. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Alien333 That is not what NEVENT is. NEVENT is meant to distinguish/help to distinguish events that may suffer from WP:PRIMARYNEWS (since, initially, that's going to be all of the sources). All of the sources here are primary and therefore none contribute to GNG. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- By your logic, every single passing events that blows up in the media for two days has "plenty of coverage in reliable sources"; but we clearly don't have an article on every crime that's ever happened. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:05, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. This is just a news story. There is no long-term coverage in secondary sources. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:20, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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South Africa
- The Crestoran Odyssey: Heroes Inception (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article was PROD'd but the tag was removed by the article's creator who is also the author of this book. Given that it is self-published, I don't believe it has been reviewed or meets WP:NBOOK. Obviously, COI involved here and all of the editor's content creation. I know that this is not a valid deletion rationale but I thought I'd point it out in this statement. Liz Read! Talk! 02:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as there is no coverage in any independent reliable sources. -- Whpq (talk) 04:05, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Andrew Reynolds (political scientist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article originally created to promote this person; it has been toned down a little since then but it remains obvious that it is paraphrased from what was originally a self-authored bio. No evidence of notability. I'm tempted to tag A7/G11. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:50, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Not sure if it was self-authored or a fan who originally created the article back in 2011 but he is a professor which is usually the test when it comes to academics. The Vintage Feminist (talk) 01:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Merely being a professor is not enough for notability. But a search of JSTOR found many reviews of his books [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], enough for WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:02, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per sources presented by David Eppstein. Passes WP:NAUTHOR. Sal2100 (talk) 22:49, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per David Eppstein. Subject has some well-cited works and has received media attention for his work on democracy. Jaireeodell (talk) 01:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes WP:NAUTHOR. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets the criteria as a scholar and author per WP:NAUTHOR. The promotional tone of the article doesn’t impact the notability of the topic itself. If the subject is notable, the page can always be improved, and this argument cannot be used as a basis for nomination. It also seems like his publication in News Observer gained attention:
- https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article122593759.html
- https://www.gq.com/story/north-carolina-andrew-reynolds-political-science-interview
50.46.167.81 (talk) 22:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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Not a notable model. No references that are non-trivial and non-promotional. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Point me to which references are "trivial" or "promotional" as last I checked, News24 is a South African news website, not PR Newswire. Marie Claire is a fashion magazine. V is a fashion magazine. CR Fashion Book is a fashion magazine and so on. None of them are providing trivia. They verified the work she's done and according to the sources… it's notable. Trillfendi (talk) 05:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Jalal Eddin Omar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Jalal has played in the lower levels of Qatar for most of his career and does not seem to meet WP:SPORTBASIC. My own Arabic searches yielded QFA, a passing mention, Al Arab, another passing mention, and Raya, which has a few sentences about him working hard in training and playing a few matches because the main goalkeeper was injured. I am not seeing enough significant coverage. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:30, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Anabwani I of Bunyoro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This appears to be a hoax, or at the very least non-notable. The article was created by User:Anabwani2007, whose only edits consist of creating and editing this article, as well as adding a mention of Anabwani to Omukama of Bunyoro. None of the links presently given in the article even mention Anabwani. I wasn't able to find even a mention in reliable sources either. A Ugandan newspaper, Daily Monitor, mentions him in an article, but that's it (and their list is sourced to the monarchy's website anyway, where he's similarly merely mentioned once). toweli (talk) 19:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep most sources on the article are self-published, however per WP:MONARCH he is considered automatically notable as a sovereign ruler. Azarctic (talk) 23:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, the issue is, I'm not sure if he's even real (I haven't seen a mention of him predating the 2010s), and even if we count that particular newspaper article as reliable (which I'm not certain that it is), the only thing we can say is that he existed, which isn't enough for a standalone article. toweli (talk) 23:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- In general, the Daily Monitor holds a left-leaning editorial bias and is reasonably fact-based; however, they poorly source information. The articles does really need more reliable sources for verification which is why I made my vote a weak keep. Azarctic (talk) 11:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, the issue is, I'm not sure if he's even real (I haven't seen a mention of him predating the 2010s), and even if we count that particular newspaper article as reliable (which I'm not certain that it is), the only thing we can say is that he existed, which isn't enough for a standalone article. toweli (talk) 23:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep note that the source used for this was likely oral, and his being mentioned in a literate source should be enough to put it beyond reasonable doubt of him being genuine
- Kowal2701 (talk) 15:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- The only source stems back to an honours mill that just had a half-dozen articles deleted within the last month for self-published promo. How is this any different if it’s all stemming from an interested party? —Greens vs. Blacks (talk) 04:43, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Dubious at best. Each source finds its way back to a self-published honours mill. Wikipedia is not here to boost the claims of unreferenced, unverifiable pedigrees. —Greens vs. Blacks (talk) 04:41, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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