- Pepperfry (company) (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)
The article has got deleted through CSD as WP:G4 though it was not similar to the previously deleted article. It had many new sources added, with significant coverage. I placed two undeletion requests at the deletion admin's talk page with no response. Maybe, they are busy, and therefore, i request a deletion review here. The person who nominated the page doesn't seem to have checked it properly or it doesn't qualify for G4 in any way. The last version was completely different from the one deleted in 2016. Tungut bey (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Allow Re-Creation in Draft - The draft title has not been salted. If the reviewer agrees that the draft should be accepted, the article title can be unsalted. Is the appellant asking for something else? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:29, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Undelete for review please. Can't assess G4 without access to the before/after versions, can we? Jclemens (talk) 05:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Overturn. Credible case that G4 did not apply, so send to AfD. Also, the AfD was years ago, and the SALTing was not done by consensus at AfD, so not generous leeway on the G4. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:28, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for keeping your perspective. I beg to differ with you on sending it to AFD and I would explain why. First, the person who marked it for speed deletion mustn't have checked when the previous article was afded and deleted or they wouldn't have G4 it only. The AFDed article was deleted in 2016 and the subject has since reveived a lot of coverage in reliable sources, an admin would be able to see it. They also don't appear to have checked online for new sources and to see if it now passes ncorp. I had cited around 30 reliable sources if memory serves me correctly and each covers the subject directly and in detail. Secondly, this article was put through afc and was approved because they found it to be notable. It was accepted by a seasoned editor. If the topic were not notable, they would have declined it there itself.Tungut bey (talk) 16:46, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I presume that the editors who tagged and deleted the article will want to nominated it a AfD. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- An editor who has been around Wikipedia since 2014, who frequently participates in Article for Deletion discussions, and is an Autopatroller and GA contributors confused CSD with AFD? No way. If you see the editor has provided the link also to previous deletion discussion while G4'ing, so it makes this clearer they were not confused between CSD and AfD.Tungut bey (talk) 11:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- If undeleted, list immediately at AfD. The deleted article was a woeful fail of WP:NOTPROMOTION. The sources are non-independent and promotional, and the end result is a completely unsolvable promotional directory of information with no third party coverage. At best, WP:TNT. A second AfD after five years is ok. AfD1 !voters’ claims of meeting WP:CORP appear to be entirely spurious. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for undeleting Pepperfry. I checked the page history and noticed that the page was G4'ed on the 5th January 2021 and the speedy deletion was declined on the very day by an administrator who stated It has been four years since the AfD, and it does make a better attempt at meeting GNG which i completely agree to, i have stated above in detail why it was not qualifying for G4. I see then David (deleting admin) steps in, first removes the funding section and references from the page, and eventually deletes the whole article. How could someone delete an article under G4 when the CSD was already declined by another admin. G4 says "this applies to sufficiently identical copies, having any title, of a page deleted via its most recent deletion discussion." 80% of the articles i had cited as source were published after the AfD which took place five years ago (September 2016). The nomination/deletion was so erroneous it beggars belief. Jclemens did you check this Pepperfry (company)?Tungut bey (talk) 13:35, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Tungut bey, DavidNotMD (the user who edited the article prior to deletion) and David Gerard (who deleted and salted it) are not the same user. If they were, I would agree that that would be improper. As is, it's not clear to me why David Gerard deleted the page, but he may have been working off an old list of tagged articles, even though Lee Vilenski, who is indeed an admin, had declined the speedy tag with a reasonable rationale. As the article existed before it was deleted, I'm not sure I see a good reason for it to continue to exist in Wikipedia--we do not exist to either be a directory of companies nor to be a promotional venue for emerging companies. Jclemens (talk) 15:42, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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