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30 June 2008
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Was speedied referring to "CSD G8: Talk page where main page does not exist". I assume this was an error as CSD G8 explicitly doesn't apply to archived talk pages where the top-level page does exist. A request to the deleting admin went without result, as he seems to be retired for good. --Latebird (talk) 19:40, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
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29 June 2008
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This article and all of the following of town/villages/settlements on the French territory of Réunion below were undergoing AfDs and so far the consensus in all of them was Keep.[1] However after somebody discussed these articles in the Village Pump, administrator Gwen Gale immediately deleted all of them, this within one day of the AfDs starts. She used the following comment as justification.
Not only was this a severe violation of WP:NO ORIGINAL RSEARCH (a "sampling of visual inspections"?), but a violation of WP:PROCESS and WP:CONSENSUS. At very least, these should all be allowed to complete the AfD process where consensus will decide.
--Oakshade (talk) 17:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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I do not accept that there was a consensus to delete this. On a strict vote-counting basis there was a small majority for deletion, but most of these votes were simple "me toos" without any analysis. Also all the comments coming after I had pointed out how much coverage there was in reliable sources were in favour of keeping, including a previous delete supporter who changed his mind Phil Bridger (talk) 09:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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The article was deleted due to the reason that there was no asserion of notability. However, Google search returns 134,000 hits for Dr. S. Kalyanaraman. Book reviews of his have appeared in the esteemed The Hindu newspaper of India RavichandarMy coffee shop 06:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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Deletion was made without any clear justification or discussion. Hektor (talk) 08:12, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, can you review the history log of Image:Kastoria1.jpg deleted by East718 on 04:31, 26 March 2008. I am concerned, because it was deleted for reason of Image lacking sources or licensing information for more than seven days, while this same image several months before this, on 18:08, 28 October 2007, was transferred from EN WP to Bulgarian WP under GFDL with attribution to User:Makedonas, and the transfer was made by one very respected user of my community who is well aware of licenses and such stuff. I am prone to believe that he has correctly cited the license and author and I am wondering what has happened in the meanwhile between October 2007 and March 2008, so that this data was apparently lost. Thank you in advance. →Spiritia 17:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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notability 78.105.219.85 (talk) 22:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Followed a link to Jamie Allen's entry and was suprized to find it deleted. Seems an erroneous deletion, and lack of online references was sited as the reason? I know of these: [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22]
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28 June 2008
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I don't believe there were any valid reasons given to keep this article only valid reason for deletion. One look at the article shows a non-notable person with no coverage in reliable sources. neon white talk 20:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
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Unknown youtube poop is a definite internet phenomenon. Why has the entry been repeatedly deleted? Luminifer (talk) 14:27, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
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This article has been deleted in the past and merged into the aplus.net article. However, the article has now been entirely re-written to include over 40 sources and I believe this article is clearly notable per the notable standards. Per Wikipeidia: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be notable.
This article has over 40 referenced articles, of which there are around 17 different sources. All but about 10 of the referenced articles discuss the subject directly in detail (as the name of the article include the subject's name or referr to him by his title within the company). All of these sources are reliable as they are from reputable business publications, undersities, the Chamber of Commerce, etc. None of the sources are affilated with the subject other than the APlus.Net Management Team reference, which could be construed as self-published material. I think this article meets the notability threashold and should be included on Wikipedia. Previous versions of the article did not have many references and supporting content so it was merged with the aplus.net article. I believe this article should be included in Wikipedia and the decision to delete should be Overturned. The article can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LakeBoater/Gabriel_Murphy LakeBoater (talk) 04:58, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Comment Hello All- can an uninvolved administrator please close this discussion and implement the consensus to move to mainspace (by a vote of three in favor, none against) the userfied article "Gabriel Murphy" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LakeBoater/Gabriel_Murphy? It has now been six days since this discussion was opened. Thank you! LakeBoater (talk) 16:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC) |
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27 June 2008
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UNDELETE_REASON I posted this just over an hour ago, it was nominated for speedy deletion, I put the tag in to say that it should be discussed, I found 3 references to show that the band was notable, including a Viacom LOGO countdown link, mentioned the aired on LOGO, linked the allmusic guide catalog #, and then suddenly the page got deleted. What happened???Luminifer (talk) 03:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
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Consensus in IfD of 2:1 was to keep the image. Despite this, the deleting admin unilaterally removed the image and when asked about it, claimed that he thought the image violated NFC#8 and was thus deleted. What is the point of even having IfD discussions if an admin, working to close IfD discussions just decides on his/her own to override "rough consensus" and enforce their point of view instead? At best, the admin was free to make their own argument for deletion, so it could be discussed, rather than rendering it via sole decision to end all discussion.
If the discussion failed to reach consensus, then the image is kept by default, but the decision should generally include a reference to the lack of consensus, in order to minimize ambiguity and future confusion. If, as you say, the decision was 2:2, this contravenes the policy; there was no concesnsus, therefore the image should have been kept. Any opposing arguament falls by the wayside - an IfD debate is an official process, and so the official guidlines should be followed. An administrator should not choose to disregard policy purely because they disagree with the verdict - Weebiloobil (talk) 17:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
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I demand an administrator to restore this article as soon as possible. It has been deleted 2 times this week so (at Accounting4Taste's request) I thought to review my thoughts on the You're Gonna Go Far, Kid article. Some freakin' idiot (named Mdsummermsw) refused to understand that this Offspring song was supposed to a new single from them, because KROQ's been playing it; I listen to that station online. When he requested that article to be deleted about a week ago, he claimed that "You're Gonna Go Far, Kid" was a "non-notable song that might or might not be released as a single". I just know for a fact that it might be the second single off their new album Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace. Users on the bulletin board of the Offspring's website also agree that it will be a single as well. At of this moment, I'm getting tired of having an argument with the users who claim that the article should be deleted and that the song is not notable or going to be a real single. Alex (talk) 15:15, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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Since it's deletion the program has won several apple design awards[28][29]. This should satisfy the notability issues brought up in the AfD. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 15:55, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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26 June 2008
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Despite the educated-sounding nature of the opinions at the AFD for this article (which was closed merge), they do not address the simple problem that this is a notable candidate. The man is a the Democratic candidate in a US house race, and, yes, the race is quite possibly competitive ([30]), especially in a year when nominal Democrat candidates are having shocking wins. Additionally, he is the state attorney general for Maryland (the people calling for delete happened not to notice this), and has a plethora of non-trivial mentions on google news: [31], many of which are not local. And the claims that this is a local only issue are troubling; I have read about this race in major newspapers. It is results like this which deeply trouble me about the AFD process. The Evil Spartan (talk) 23:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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UNDELETE_Original creator was blocked from defending the article by administrator after said creator upset administrator. It appears the creator and the administrator were going back and forth, to where the creator offended the admin on the admin's talk page, and the admin had the creator blocked, prohibiting the creator from properly defending the article. In my own attempts at communicating with the admin, he/she appeared to be defensive and paranoid which gave me even more reason for concern. Furthermore, the admin in question slapped a warning on my page when I attempted to edit: June 2008
I am unaware as to his/her reasoning, but there is definitely an underlying aggression in regards to this particle article and/or contributor, LDCortez. Upon reviewing the wiki guidelines, it is without doubt that this article was and is notable. I request that the article be reinstated, protected and that Jauerback be warned against taking such aggressive actions toward contributors. It makes a very unpleasant, hostile and "war-like" environment, as opposed to a forum to exchange information and to learn. Wiki readers deserve to have Mr. Herrman as a part of their library of living persons to study, understand and live up to. I ask that the article be reinstated. My notes are available on my talkpage for any further review. BHOrchid (talk) 22:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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This has been deleted 5 times in the last 3 weeks or so (and is now fully protected) so I thought a review would be the way to go. There's a copy at User:Mindme/Dogma Free America that I'd like you to have a look over. This is very much just procedural from me. Many thanks, Alex Muller 12:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Endorse original decision to delete. I took a look at the userspace article's discussion page and the notability (as defined by WP:WEB just isn't there. CredoFromStart talk 20:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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Nfitz (talk) 03:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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25 June 2008
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I fit the criteria for my entry on this page 63.125.4.210 (talk) 16:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC) hello, On this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/75th_Ranger_Regiment I have been attepting to add to the below section : "former Rangers websites" , my website, http://shadowspear.com. I have even tried my Ranger article (which someone copied and pasted here) at http://shadowspear.com/ranger.htm. Everytime I add it, it is subsequently deleted. I have served in the 75th Ranger Regiment for 5 years, including combat operations in Afghanistan. I am also a graduate of the US Army Ranger School, class 08-01. I fit the criteria for having websites of former Rangers listed in this section. Why does my link always get deleted, and how can I correct this? Thank you.
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I wanna make an irate gamer srticle, but some people deleted it. I wasn't done making the article, because I was getting tired. I was gonna work on it now, but I can't. Please let me. I wasn't even warned that it would be deleted. http://theirategamer.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vgames22 (talk • contribs) 16:11, June 25, 2008 Note: The article has since been deleted--perhaps this should be reopened? DGG (talk) 11:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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24 June 2008
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This article was deleted less than an hour after I created it, with no warning! I created it because I saw the band's video on TV (the LOGO channel) and couldn't believe they didn't have an entry. What more does one need that major TV airplay?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luminifer (talk • contribs) 00:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
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The following article clearly had a consensus of Keep Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Host.net with 9 out of 10 opinions. In addition, secondary and third party sources from creditable – reliable and verifiable sources were provided to establish Notability. I believe the closing administrator allowed personal standards and/or criteria to influence their judgment when closing the Afd as delete. Thanks for your consideration in this matter. ShoesssS Talk 19:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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Lack of Citations... I understand the reason for speedy deletion, and that was for lack of citations. i guess i did not truely understand that the citations needed posting immediately, for that i apologize. The Record label and the digital store exist and would appreciate another shot to create the page with the proper citations. Thanks. Amaldigi 19:28, June 24, 2008
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academic eminence User:clive sweeting
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I am confused as to why this page was deleted given that it is an organization parallel to many others within the same field of Jewish Outreach Organizations e.g. Aish HaTorah, Ohr Somayach and more. I had emulated their editorial style and used sources no different than these pages. The same is true of the page Jewpiter, which was also deleted. Claudbaker
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Unusual procedure of deleting,no warning or adding speedel tag,and didn't examine the deleting policy carefully Ksyrie(Talkie talkie) 12:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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admin closed debate stating that the consensus was 'merge' which has stirred up a new debate on the article's talk page. Some additional admin and other opinions on this closing result and the process used would be appreciated. Rtphokie (talk) 11:29, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Comment about this process admin closed debate stating that the consensus was merge which they clarified here. There is NOTHING for this DRV to rule on - A merger discussion is ongoing on the talkpage, the outcome of this administration process will have no basis to influence or inform that editorial process. If at the talkpage, the consensus is that the article should be merged, it will be merged - regardless of what decisions are made here. --Killerofcruft (talk) 12:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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This article was marked for speedy deletion for non-notability immediately after I posted it and then deleted shortly afterwards without regard to my comments on the talk page. I actually thought I was doing a service by translating this article from the French Wikipedia. Why is the article notable enough for inclusion on the French Wikipedia, but not the English? Are we provincial? Is the article notable for French readers, but not for English readers? I think education is global. Anyone wanting to study any global topic anywhere in the world should be able to do so without regard to his or her native reading language. I also checked the notability guidelines before posting. How can this artist not be notable? He pioneered a whole sub-genre of music and considered its founding father. His music has been recorded by major record labels, has had extensive radio airplay, and he has had his own daily radio program. His discography runs from 1944 to 1962 and includes 49 singles and 14 LPs. Billboard.com also has 7 listings of re-releases in the 2000's. If anyone wants to check the French Wikipedia article, I can save you a few steps in getting a translation by providing this translated link Jkolak (talk) 07:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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I am concerned that the decision that no consensus to delete had been reached (see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 June 8#Category:British Occupations) did not reflect the debate concerning this category. My interpretation of the deletion debate is there was a consensus to delete. This category was created by User:DonaldDuck as an attack category and originally included wildly inappropriate articles such as the BAOR and the Falkland War, I reverted many of those changes resulting in a category that was watered down compared with its original formula. In addition to creating the category, he has also been deleting a similar category from articles related to the Soviet Army; namely Soviet Occupations. Its clear that he is acting with a POV agenda and the creation of this category is part of that. Of its own right, it doesn't seem worthy of categorisation since it contains very few articles. Its vague and ill-defined, could I for instance legitimately add Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy? On several policy grounds its worthy of deletion, there was a consensus to do so even if you ignored at least one comment which was for a weak delete, there was several arguments why it should be deleted, there was no real argument for it to be kept - at best it should be renamed. I can accept, with qualifications, that if properly used it could become a legitimate category but not in its current form Justin talk 22:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Myself: Delete, Narson: Weak-Delete, Pfainuk: Delete, Johnbod: Delete, Berks911: Delete DonaldDuck: Keep Peterkingiron:Rename to British Military Occupations, LapsedPacficist:Rename Comments about the category being vague and ill-defined: roundhouse0, Otto4711, Cgingold There was only one real comment for keeping it unaltered and that was DonaldDuck who created it. All of the other participants noted that it was ill-defined and that it should be either renamed or deleted. If it were renamed or deleted I would have no problem with that, since that was the consensus. Keeping it unaltered is what I have an issue with. Justin talk 09:39, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Just to comment if I may. The forces in Iraq and Palestine were there under a League of Nations mandate, the purpose of which was to to administer parts of the recently defunct Ottoman Empire..."until such time as they are able to stand alone.", occupation implies the seizure and holding of territory by military force and doesn't seem appropriate in this case. Also we already have the category "Allied occupation of Germany" for the post-war occupation of Germany, adding yet more to a topic that is already over-categorised seems inappropriate to me. Your comment that the category is ill-defined at present hits the nail on the head for me, leaving it open to the potential of its abuse for POV reasons - the reason for its creation in the first place. This is why I believe leaving it unaltered is a mistake and ignored the consensus that it needed attention. Justin talk
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23 June 2008
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Image is PD-US but not in home country and will soon be deleted from Commons. Commons file name is Image:Édouard Vuillard 001.jpg. -Nard 22:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
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