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New Zealand Comic con

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This article is substantially covered in a subsection of Armageddon Expo, which this article links to in the lede. An uninformed reader may draw the conclusion that this is the article about Armageddon, which it is not. Removing the non-encyclopedic parts of this article would render it a copy of the Armageddon subsection.

This article was nominated for PROD previously but had as far as I can tell only little opposition; the reason was that it was a unique event. MrSeabody (talk) 08:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mutating Mutants

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Mainly fails WP:Notability, did not find any sources for this article. GoodHue291 (talk) 23:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Marvel RPG supplements where it is mentioned unless appropriate sourcing can be found. It's a coin toss on a pre-Internet supplement like this, but it's entirely possible sourcing is out there. Jclemens (talk) 23:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Database guides, ebay, blog posts, that's all I can find. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 23:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Marvel RPG supplements until sources can be found. BOZ (talk) 02:12, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to List of Marvel RPG supplements per BOZ. BD2412 T 20:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Yingling

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Fails general notability; stub article is about an American voice actor whose only credit is for having been the soundalike of a Disney character for one TV show (for which he was credited as merely an "additional voice") and an interactive theme park exhibit. Article only has one citation, which only relates to the aforementioned exhibit winning an award and has nothing to do with the article's subject. Furthermore, the article has a COI issue as it appears to have been created the subject himself years ago. –WPA (talk) 02:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no evidence of notability, seems to fail both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR due to lack of reliable sources. I cannot seem to find any reliable sources that mention Yingling, and even if sources do exist the minor nature of the roles played would still probably warrant deletion. ReedyTurnip (talk) 16:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I am not seeing any coverage on this person. Hkkingg (talk) 07:15, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BoOzy' OS and the Cristal Gem

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This appears to fail WP:NFILM. This was a short film which was submitted to a 2013 Dailymotion contest connected with Annecy ("+ de courts"), but which did not win the judging ([1]). I can't find any mention of it in the archived Annecy web site, nor can I find any substantial coverage online, just a lot of entries in film databases and an unusual amount of media on Commons (for now, at least: c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by REDƎYE). Omphalographer (talk) 00:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Can't find any substantial coverage in secondary sources outside of a blog or two. Nowhere good to redirect to, it isn't mentioned in Annecy International Animation Film Festival and there's no article for the director. Odd that a French film has articles in 30 languages but not French. hinnk (talk) 01:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, it was in French Wikipedia but they deleted it years ago as non-notable. hinnk (talk) 02:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep I find many secondary sources on Google : a critic review in Romania, another in London (2023), an interview in Paris (2014), another in India (2023), etc. IMDB shows 1700 votes, 8 awards and 1 nomination. This seems to me to be very ample in terms of notoriety for a short film ^^ (note : I remember the AFD in FR in 2014 : at that time, there was not enough sources (only 1 interview I think) but with today awards and coverage, I think the article should be recreated in FR) --Supersonic888 (talk) 13:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not 8 but 10 wins, and not 1 but 4 nominations ^^ I just added "Critical response" and "accolades" sections with sources on the article. --Supersonic888 (talk) 15:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interviews are primary sources that don't help meet the general notability guideline, those two reviews are both from sites that accept payment for reviews ([2]~~[3]~~[4]), and the World Film Carnival Singapore site you added to the article was running malware that immediately redirected me without even showing a review. Do you understand my concern when someone says a subject is very ample in terms of notoriety, with this as the evidence? hinnk (talk) 19:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm admittedly not an expert on the film industry, but most of those awards appear to be from monthly online competitions, not notable film festivals. For example, the "Rome International Movie Awards" is a blog which issues dozens of awards to amateur films every month. Omphalographer (talk) 20:03, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not an expert on the film industry either but it seems they paid for participating in festivals, not for reviews or awards. I didn't have any problem for visiting the World Film Carnival site (no malware for me) ^^

The fact that it is an amateur film (if it is one? I don't know) does not seem to me to be a criterion for deletion: we are talking about notoriety and I believe that this point is respected, internationally (I add that on Commons there are photos showing the director with trophies at these festivals in Asia, which also shows international distribution).

If we look at Category:2013 animated short films and IMDB (when available):
Aruvu Rezuru: Kikaijikake no Yōseitachi = 23 votes

Backward Run = 77 votes, 1 win & 3 nominations

The Blue Umbrella (2013 film) = 11000 votes, 1 nomination, 17 critics (Pixar)

A Boy and His Atom = 454 votes, 1 critic

The Chaperone 3D = 90 votes, 7 wins & 4 nominations, 1 critic

Death Billiards = 2100 votes, 2 critics

The End of Pinky = 51 votes, 2 nominations, 3 critics

Game Over (2013 film) = 0 vote

Get a Horse! = 5600 votes, 2 wins & 2 nominations, 20 critics (Mickey)

Gloria Victoria = 137 votes, 1 win & 7 nominations, 5 critics

Hollow Land = 58 votes, 8 wins & 3 nominations, 1 critic

Impromptu (2013 film) = 28 votes, 1 nomination, 1 critic

Kick-Heart = 1000 votes, 1 wins & 3 nominations, 9 critics

Mary & Myself = 16 votes, 1 nomination

The Missing Scarf = 468 votes, 15 wins & 5 nominations, 4 critics

Missing U (film) = 26 votes

Mr Hublot = 5200 votes, 6 wins & 2 nominations, 14 critics

Party Central = 3700 votes (Disney Pixar)

The River's Lazy Flow = 11 votes, 1 win & 1 nomination

The Scarecrow (2013 film) = 248 votes, 5 wins

The Smurfs: The Legend of Smurfy Hollow = 986 votes, 1 nomination, 13 critics (The Smurfs)

Subconscious Password = 198 votes, 3 wins & 5 nominations, 4 critics

Toy Story of Terror! = 18000 votes, 6 wins & 10 nominations, 31 critics (Disney Pixar)

This is to show that with 1700 votes it has more votes than most other films, even more than The Smurfs. Only 6 blockbuster films have more votes (Disney Pixar, Mickey, etc).

To me, all this is significant in terms of notoriety even though one could still argue that some votes could be rigged. Supersonic888 (talk) 16:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User votes on IMDb are not in any way, shape, or form a measure of notability (nor "notoriety"). Omphalographer (talk) 19:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, and that's not what I'm basing it on here (I just point this out, in addition to my remarks), but it's an interesting indicator ^^ Supersonic888 (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the sources are fine with me and the notoriety seems sufficient to me, with good worldwide coverage. However, some festivals mentioned are a bit light (Morocco Fest and Oregon Film Festival: there is only one primary source). The article seems acceptable to me on Wikipedia in French as well --CineDany (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Convinced by the arguments, sources ok for me. The only point that would make me hesitate would be the film’s absence from major review aggregation websites such as Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic. --SuperKFuu (talk) 15:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I'm not impressed by the quality of the sources; this seems to fail the notability guidelines. There's a concerted effort by the creators to prop up the work across Wikimedia projects but the coverage just isn't there. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. We have several less experienced editors participating here and I urge them to review Wikipedia:Notability (films) which is Wikipedia's guideline on how to judge notability regarding films and it doesn't include consideration by IMDb or Rotten Tomatoes. The nominator pointed out this page but I don't think some editors here are familiar with it.
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Comment Based on the references that have been added, I put together a quick source assessment to evaluate where we are now. It seems to me like WP:GNG has still not been reached. hinnk (talk) 01:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table: prepared by User:hinnk
IMDb		WP:IMDB	?	✘ No
C2S Network	Press kit			✘ No
Dailymotion contest		?	Just the title listed as a contest winner, although "More infos" section lists a different winner	✘ No
AllMovie		~ WP:ALLMUSIC, AllMovie ratings seem unreliable since they're included even on upcoming/lost films	Mostly facts imported from Wikidata, otherwise just the numerical rating	✘ No
World Film Carnival Singapore	?	?	? Dead link, failed verification, Internet Archive page is also empty	? Unknown
Monkey Bread Tree	~	Offers coverage as a paid service		✘ No
fiffest	~	Offers coverage as a paid service		✘ No
Paris à contre-jour	Interview	?	? Dead link, failed verification	✘ No
Oniros Film Awards		?	Just the title listed	✘ No
Sea & Beach Film Festival		?	Just the title listed	✘ No
Druk International Film Festival		?	Just the title listed	✘ No
World Film Carnival Singapore		?	Just the title listed	✘ No
Cult Critic Movie Awards		?	Just the title listed	✘ No
Rome International Movie Awards		?	Just the title listed	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Delete: The film is not notable per our standards. Little to no coverage in .fr sources, this is the best [5], it's basically a listing akin to the imdb. The awards won are not notable (none from notable film festivals), nor can I find confirmation of the Annecy win (the source used, Dailymotion, is not reliable). Annecy is a big deal in France, and the fact that zero media there have covered it is proof of non-notability. Here's the search [6] in Gnews, looking for sources from France: listings for kombucha drinks and other kinds of nonsense, completely unrelated ot this film. Oaktree b (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Here's the French wiki deletion discussion from 2015: [7]... The sources found were the films sponsors, none of which were in French either. Oaktree b (talk) 03:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pidge (Voltron)

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Fails WP:GNG no sigcov outside of listicles and primary sources. There is one seemingly good source from the Mary Sue but I don't think that's enough. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge I think this article should be merged to List of Voltron characters as a compromise. Dwanyewest (talk) 08:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Why not do all the characters at once? Princess Allura, Hunk, Keith, Lance, Prince Lotor, Sven / Shiro, and Emperor Zarkon. I created the Voltron fandom years ago, and when the latest Voltron series was made, they worked directly with me on putting information there about it. If people want to learn about the characters, they can just go to https://voltron.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters and find more detail. Dream Focus 15:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Copyright violation. This information was on the official Voltron wiki [8] back in 2011, which is older than this article, and unlike this article it has references to which episodes information was in. Dream Focus 15:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[9] The user that copied it mentioned https://voltron.fandom.com/wiki/Pidge_(Legendary_Defender) in a reference for where the information came from. Dream Focus 22:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete per WP:COPYVIO 104.7.152.180 (talk) 00:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Voltron Fandom Wiki Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted according to a notice at the bottom of the Pidge page, so I'm not sure if the copyright violation necessarily applies as a deletion reason in this specific case. I've added attribution to the edit history. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 04:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is there any more support for a Merge, assuming that content doesn't violate our copyright guidelines?
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Redirect to List of Voltron characters, this fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Star Hill Ponies

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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 14:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I found a newspaper article called "Trotting towards stardom" in the South Wales Evening Post, April 1999, and one called "Titanic tricks for TV puppets" in the Western Daily Press, April 1999. Toughpigs (talk) 17:40, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chris King and Vicki Grant

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This article doesn't have reception or signification coverage about the character, and the hero forms section was written awfully or its fully redundant; thus failing WP:GNG. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 06:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep because they were separated from the Dial H for Hero page by @Jhenderson777: to keep the page from getting too long like the Black Canary page or merge Chris King and his superhero forms to List of Marvel Comics characters: K and Vicki Grant and her superheroine forms to List of Marvel Comics characters: G in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE if the latter happens. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Take My Muffin

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Lack of notability. Search throws up nothing obvious; cites are less than convincing. TheLongTone (talk) 15:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Sourcing I find is strictly to crypto or animation blog sites, none of which are useful for notability. What's also used in the article is not in RS either. Oaktree b (talk) 15:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: The articles on AnimationMagazine and CoinIdol seem significant. The claim that it was the 1st series created with the support of a cryptocurrency community is backed for ex by. https://medium.com/@kat123/what-is-take-my-muffin-c734f48266c6 and https://medium.com/@chinedukalu66/take-my-muffin-a-blockchain-based-nft-animation-project-with-the-potential-to-revolutionize-the-e73b125a8484 ; also see https://www.awn.com/news/new-episode-take-my-muffin-hits-youtube, https://thevrsoldier.com/bluelight-aims-to-gamify-the-take-my-muffin-animation-series-betting-on-the-strong-degames-trend/ and the claim itself might add some kind of notability to the production. A redirect to the only creator who has a page, if really that is considered insufficient, maybe? (I think it meets GNG, though) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Medium is not a reliable source and the VR soldier is a press release. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, which leaves us with Animation Film Magazine and some sources on the page, and a claim at notability backed by some sources. Also a redirect to Pavel_Muntyan#Filmography should be considered, so that I take advantage of this comment to indicate I am opposed to deletion.:D -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per above Traumnovelle (talk) 21:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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