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Report date November 16 2009, 16:15 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets


Evidence submitted by Favonian (talk)

First, and so far only, contribution [1] is a remake of [2] by already identified sock Dr trueman 32 (talk · contribs). User name also indicative. Favonian (talk) 16:15, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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Conclusions

 Clerk note: Account tagged as a sock. I'll also note that there were also about a dozen other socks also blocked and tagged as part of a sockfarm of sleeper accounts (see [3]), which I won't bother listing here. MuZemike 20:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Report date January 12 2010, 17:38 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets
Evidence submitted by Whoniverse93 (talk)

Added vandalism/unsourced information to Steve McFadden that the user 'Eastenders31' had previously added and was blocked for. Whoniverse93 (talk) 17:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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This edit (about Steve McFadden being the next James Bond) makes me think the sockmaster is User:Trueman31. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:52, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Conclusions
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Report date January 16 2010, 15:13 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets


Evidence submitted by Whoniverse93 (talk)

Reverted edits made by sockpuppet. New user created after block. Whoniverse93 (talk) 15:13, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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It's the other way around, Trueman31 is the sockmaster. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:05, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 Clerk note: Seems as though appropriate action taken by AnemoneProjectors. NJA (t/c) 11:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions
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Report date January 18 2010, 17:07 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets


Evidence submitted by Whoniverse93 (talk)

Clearly a sockpuppet. Reverting same edits etc. Whoniverse93 (talk) 17:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Is there an underlying IP that can be blocked? This user is an ongoing problem dating back to 2007. DMacks (talk) 17:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Conclusions


24 August 2012
Suspected sockpuppets


The username alone gave this one away, coupled with the fact he edited the Steve McFadden article to say he was appearing in the James Bond franchise, just like his previous socks - [4]. JuneGloom Talk 17:59, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
29 August 2012
Suspected sockpuppets

Apart from the names being similar, they are making the exact same edits such as saying Steve McFadden is going to be the next 007. I've blocked as it quacks louder than a duck but requesting Checkuser as there has been recent activity from another account, wanna make sure there's no sleepers if that's possible. 5 albert square (talk) 01:30, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK: Here's some diffs:

Trueman31

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=prev&oldid=155049747

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=prev&oldid=155415460

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EastEnders&diff=prev&oldid=155015872

The Real Trueman

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=prev&oldid=508935733

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EastEnders&diff=prev&oldid=508950848

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=prev&oldid=508936335

Daremethisistrueman

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EastEnders&diff=prev&oldid=509685712

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=prev&oldid=509685798

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=prev&oldid=509685885

Also it might be worth pointing out that this user only seems to vandalise articles related to EastEnders and incidentally their usernames almost always contain 'Trueman' in them and there is a Patrick Trueman in EastEnders. Either that or their username will contain something to do with EastEnders like this example using the fictional setting name of Walford. They also have a history of trying to impersonate other EastEnders editors and other admin.--5 albert square (talk) 21:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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27 October 2012
Suspected sockpuppets


Similarity of username, plus the fact that this account is, similar to the sockmaster's diffs in the archive, making edits which purport that EastEnders actor Steve McFadden will be the new James Bond. Diffs: [5], [6].

The sockmaster and socks are supposed to have ACB (e.g. [7], [8]), so if this really is them, they seem to be getting aroud this. Therefore I think it would be worth checking whether the blocks need to be adjusted/check for sleeper accounts/so forth. It Is Me Here t / c 16:57, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Considering technical and behavoiral evidence, I'd go  Likely, of course on behavoir alone it quacks though. No sleepers or rangeblocks possible right now. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 20:18, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • information Administrator note Blocked and tagged, marking for close. Jafeluv (talk) 22:21, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
17 February 2013
Suspected sockpuppets

Blocked this user before and then realised this may be a sock of Trueman 31. Edits are similar, this one saying that Steve McFadden is to be 007 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=prev&oldid=538756778 very similar to this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=prev&oldid=155415858.

Also this one that Trueman31 says that Dot Cotton is to quit EastEnders http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=prev&oldid=155415460 is very similar to this one made today http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=next&oldid=537729153.

Finally, this user copied and pasted User:AnemoneProjectors talk page earlier http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_test_card_f&diff=prev&oldid=538757936, and you can see that Trueman31 seems to have a vendetta against AP, as is proved with User:Trueman 31 and Ln of X VS Anemone Projectors.

Generally, both users seem to dislike Anemone Projectors and anything related to the BBC in particular EastEnders-related articles. I blocked The test card f before I realised this is Trueman31, reporting, and given the users past history for sleeper accounts, also requesting CheckUser. 5 albert square (talk) 19:51, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It might also be worthwhile noting that his editing pattern seems to have changed very slightly. I think that this time he is including the BBC more in his vandalism. Now on this occasion he has put the BBC Test Card F on his talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_test_card_f&diff=prev&oldid=538757303. Plus he normally includes "Trueman" in his name which is after Patrick Trueman and family, all characters from EastEnders. I think this is the first time he's included something more direct at the BBC in his name.--5 albert square (talk) 20:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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  • No immediate sleepers found. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 22:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
26 February 2013
Suspected sockpuppets

Really the evidence speaks for itself.

As Steve mc fadden the new james bond

Both users claim that Dot Cotton will leave EastEnders http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=prev&oldid=540744541, plus Trueman 31 also thinks that Steve McFadden will be the new James Bond too.

As Bargain Boredem

Again, both users claim that Dot Cotton will leave EastEnders http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=prev&oldid=539006983. Bargain Boredem also thinks that EastEnders will finish this year http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EastEnders&diff=prev&oldid=539006818, something that The Test Card F (another confirmed sock of Trueman31 also thinks http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EastEnders&diff=next&oldid=538756667.

As Bbc bloated

Similar edit as User:Steve mc fadden the new james bond, Bbc bloated thinks that Phil Mitchell will leave EastEnders http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Mitchell&diff=next&oldid=540590653. Phil Mitchell is a character played by Steve McFadden. Bbc bloated also thinks that Dot Cotton will leave EastEnders http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=prev&oldid=540696637. The there's the name as Bbc bloated appears to be a play on the BBC, the station that airs EastEnders, the soap of which Phil Mitchell and Dot Cotton are characters from.


Everyone has been blocked, however I'm raising this SPI as there have been quite a few new accounts from this user recently, I'm requesting checkuser in case there's sleepers. 5 albert square (talk) 23:49, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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08 March 2013
Suspected sockpuppets

I have already blocked Test Card J as this was obvious, based on the username, similar to User:The test card f and User:The return of Test Card F, with edits to Dot Cotton stating she is leaving the series, which is what Trueman31 socks have been doing for years. I also believe Desired31 may be Trueman31 based on the 31 at the end of the username, which has been used in other usernames such as User:The returner31, User:The choco brothers t31, and User:Toolbox 31. Also the edit by Desired31 was to Kat Slater, another character in EastEnders, and Trueman31 socks always target EastEnders articles. I have not blocked Desired31 as it is not so clear cut this time. Also, as there are two suspected sockpuppets this time, there could be sleepers. –anemoneprojectors– 15:45, 8 March 2013 (UTC) –anemoneprojectors– 15:45, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm adding User:Anemone sfjhfshbfsjhbhbhfsbsb because of an edit to Jack Branning‎, another EastEnders character, adding false information, and part of my username being copied, something Trueman31 has done before. –anemoneprojectors– 20:22, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Now adding User:YtecsdfggdfgT31111, User:The warrier mode, User:Zealot the tracker, User:Zestlepus. The first one added a BBC Test Card to his userpage, something the User:Test Card F and others were doing, and the other three undid my reverts of the other accounts mentioned in this SPI. I've blocked them all. There's probably more. –anemoneprojectors– 21:01, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Clerk endorsed - for a sleeper check. Rschen7754 02:02, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Confirmed to each other,  Likely to group 2 below:
  •  Confirmed to each other,  Likely to group 1 above:
-- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 14:30, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
17 November 2013
Suspected sockpuppets


All these accounts have been blocked and tagged as likely sockpuppets of Trueman31. This user has several habits, mostly adding false information to EastEnders-related articles, targeting me in some way (posting a "retired" notice on my talk page was a recent one), copying my user and talk pages in their userspace, or recreating user subpages that I have moved to the mainspace for other users that have been requested on my talk page. This has been going on for about six or seven years now and the user shows no sign of maturity, so it would be nice if something could be done, like contacting their ISP if possible. Anyway, there are usually a large number of sleeper accounts waiting to be used, so I'm requesting checkuser to see if any can be found and blocked. –anemoneprojectors– 14:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I can't really check for sleepers. There are so many good-faith users, including administrators, on his range. Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:13, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks. That's a shame as Checkuser has come up with good results before. –anemoneprojectors– 20:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's because their IPs overlapped. I can't really check to see if there are accounts that haven't yet overlapped. Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:21, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
19 November 2013
Suspected sockpuppets

Same MO as previous socks. Has taken AnemoneProjectors' user page as their own. And then there's the user name. | Uncle Milty | talk | 01:32, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Closing, as Reaper indicated that CU was of no use a few days ago. Rschen7754 11:01, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
14 August 2014
Suspected sockpuppets

Quack. First edit to his talk page was "Trueman 31 was here" with this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Poorpoppieeyes&oldid=621274088 . Removed it minutes later when creating a false history of messages. Meters (talk) 23:08, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interest in EastEnders-related articles (this time Mike Parker (EastEnders)) and targeting User:AnemoneProjectors here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Poorpoppieeyes&oldid=621275109 are characteristic of Trueman31. Meters (talk) 23:16, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I have added Animemoo Projectors after I came across this edit :

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EastEnders&diff=prev&oldid=621275761

if Checkuser has not already been done it may be worthwhile doing this to check for more 5 albert square (talk) 23:46, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I checked the accounts yesterday prior to blocking; I didn't realize an SPI had been raised. The two named accounts are obviously  Confirmed to each other and no additional accounts turned up. The master and socks are all  Stale, but I can see from the logs that the ISP and geolocation matches. Obvious sock is obvious. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 18:31, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]


15 August 2014
Suspected sockpuppets

Editing the same type of articles claiming an Eastenders actor will be the next James Bond.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=prev&oldid=621411158

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=prev&oldid=155415542

Blocked as it quacked. I think Checkuser was run for the SPI that was closed earlier so I don't think running CU again so soon will do any good. 5 albert square (talk) 22:14, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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25 February 2017

Suspected sockpuppets

Making the same kind of edits:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Mitchell&diff=prev&oldid=767211453

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=prev&oldid=767211098

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=prev&oldid=155049747

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Mitchell&diff=next&oldid=540590653 5 albert square (talk) 13:19, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • information Administrator note Blocked but not tagging as per WP:DENY. Just raising this spi to keep a record, nothing CU can do due to age so I'll close and keep an eye on articles 5 albert square (talk) 13:20, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

25 December 2017

Suspected sockpuppets


Mr. Yanusanta opened his talkpage using content from User talk:AnemoneProjectors and copied the userpage accordingly. The (copied) talk-page contained several templates (now removed) containing a link to the sockmasters name. Also, when checking Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Trueman31, I found several other references to AnemoneProjector being impersonated. I surmise SPI-volunteers may find the users behavior familiar. Kleuske (talk) 12:50, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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11 October 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

all the tells, copying admin pages, plus this Praxidicae (talk) 13:24, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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21 October 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

Arnoldswansen edited the article of Adam Woodyatt, an EastEnders actor claiming he'd had a cardiac arrest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adam_Woodyatt&diff=next&oldid=919503052

One of Trueman's socks edited the article of Dot Cotton, an EastEnders character, stating that the character would be killed off from the series.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=prev&oldid=917336239

Previous socks of Trueman 31 have also vandalised the articles of EastEnders actors making ridiculous unreferenced claims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=next&oldid=764558973

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_McFadden&diff=next&oldid=508597830

I've been dealing with Trueman's socks for years now so I'm very familiar with them, however I'd rather raise a request for a CheckUser on this one. Aside from Arnoldswansen32 only making one edit, there have been a number of socks recently. Most recent that I could find was User:PolishNeptoism blocked by ST47 5 albert square (talk) 21:20, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Blocked without tags without a check. Closing. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 22:03, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

20 November 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Making similar edits to this one to Phil Mitchell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Mitchell&diff=prev&oldid=989232220

Blocked user. Filing for reference. 5 albert square (talk) 22:39, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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21 November 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Quacking making the same type of edits claiming Steve McFadden is going to be the new James Bond. As I uncovered another sock before being told about this one I'm requesting CheckUser to see if theres others. 5 albert square (talk) 01:06, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First example https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Mitchell&diff=prev&oldid=973886488 5 albert square (talk) 01:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another example here 5 albert square (talk) 01:12, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also now querying WikiFlame50. I'm wondering if the sock has set up good hand bad hand accounts.

This example

Then this edit to my talk page when I'd already blocked the sock [9] 5 albert square (talk) 02:36, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Clerk endorsed - HelloEverybody is  Stale, but JimpixAP (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) (recently blocked and archived) is current, and after reviewing the archives I'm pretty confident that Jimpix is indeed Trueman. This is weird, given that WikiFlame is explicitly reverting JimpixAP's edits, but I think that WikiFlame50's strange familiarity with the Trueman31 case and shared interest in British soaps (plus their shared issues with spelling) is sufficient to justify a check as a suspected GHBH. I note that WikiFlame is exclusively editing from mobile, which I haven't seen from recent socks, so CU might be iffy here. GeneralNotability (talk) 03:23, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Possible. User agents and ISP, ranges are all different, but the geolocation is the same country. Take this with a grain of salt; a behavioral investigation will be necessary here. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:44, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Clerk note: I am very suspicious of WikiFlame but I am not sufficiently convinced by behavioral evidence to block at this time without better CU evidence than "they're in the same country." Closing without action. GeneralNotability (talk) 16:07, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

27 November 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Editing soap opera pages. Claiming Steve McFadden is going to go into politics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Mitchell&diff=next&oldid=990804150

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Mitchell&diff=next&oldid=987082450

Unsourced edits about a character leaving:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ian_Beale&diff=prev&oldid=990938126

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dot_Cotton&diff=next&oldid=972232475

I've blocked this user already because they were quacking so loudly.

I'm also going to request CheckUser. The reason being there have been a few socks recently and also because this user has some track record with us, when we've requested CheckUser in the past, more often than not there are socks. 5 albert square (talk) 23:10, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The following accounts are  Confirmed to each other;
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