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October 3

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 3, 2023.

.sex

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Internet top-level domains#S. No consensus for deletion, but there is some agreement for retargeting to one of the targets proposed by the nom. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:REDYES. The top-level domain .sex does exist,[1] but it is not the same as .xxx, nor is it mentioned at .xxx's article. It is mentioned a bit at .gay. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 23:19, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Archery at the 2023 Pacific Games

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:38, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; WP:SELFRED Yoblyblob (talk) 23:13, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Walk or bike

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The result of the discussion was keep. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:30, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given the great ambiguity here, it would probably be best to let the search engine handle this one. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 21:34, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Note that "walk or bike" is a common phrase and thus a likely search term (see for example the google trends data). Also both walking and biking are mentioned in the current target article - even the lead states The best-known forms of active mobility are walking and cycling, though other modes include running, rowing, skateboarding, kick scooters and roller skates. - so the target is indeed helpful. Duckmather (talk) 15:58, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I do not dispute either of these arguments, but I still think it's awfully vague. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 20:31, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as an ambiguous WP:XY situation. There's multiple targets that this search term could be in reference to, none of which are surefire catch-all options. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:30, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as a WP:XY issue per Utopes; no good target this could point to. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 17:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom and others. Unhelpful and vague. CycloneYoris talk! 09:00, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I disagree about the assertion of "vague". If I am a reader (and I am : ) - and I would like to know about some information/comparison of to "walk or bike" (especially by country), I think this is a very pausible search term. - jc37 22:02, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • keep. This is not an XY situation as the search term is a common phrase and the target is about both elements. Thryduulf (talk) 21:56, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, if this stays, I would consider creating Walk and bike, Bike or walk, and/or Bike and walk for consistency. The XY comes from referring to walking OR biking, but in this instance the target article does make mention of both, so it could possibly be considered a "compromise" instead of targeting either Walk or Bike. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:27, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not really a "compromise" as the search term is describing the scope of the target, in discussions of this concept (which I have far more than a typical person does) the use of "or" and "and" are pretty interchangeable as it depends whether you're thinking of it from the perspective of a single person who might be doing either but not both at the same time, or multiple people who might be walking, cycling or both. I do support the creation of those other redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 09:40, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It's fairly clear what this means. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:52, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Four Golden Princess

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 11#Four Golden Princess

Morocz

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 31#Morocz

Gluglug

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Glugging. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:30, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target page. This is apparently a type of laptop associated with Libreboot, but its relevance as a search term to end up at a page where it is not discussed is questionable. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:38, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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LancetGate

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 25#LancetGate

The Presidents of the United States of America

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 11#The Presidents of the United States of America

A human

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The result of the discussion was No consensus. There are arguments for all of keeping, deleting and disambiguating, all of them about equally strong and none of them has significantly more support than the others. This has been open over 6 weeks already and has been relisted twice, so the likelihood of a consensus emerging now is very low. Thryduulf (talk) 22:58, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible search aids that make it harder to find articles that begin with "A __", no incoming links, and not a generally accepted pattern for redirects. Skynxnex (talk) 13:00, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:R from related

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 17#Template:R from related

Mixrecord

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 10#Mixrecord

Mamu (Nintendo)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. But retagetting to where there is at least a mention (i.e., Super Mario Bros. 2) as it's at least better than the current target. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow • talk 00:01, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:16, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sperjohn/sandbox

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6. This redirect was clearly created by mistake. Thryduulf (talk) 21:27, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

moved from a user's sandbox, no need for redirect greyzxq talk 21:09, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Blind (upcoming film)

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The result of the discussion was keep. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:31, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The film has been released, so this redirect is no longer accurate. I'll note that it was created before the films debut. Deauthorized. (talk) 20:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Utopes (talk / cont) 20:35, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for now. The redirect is still getting 10-20 hits a day most days and so is very clearly still necessary to get readers to the content they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 21:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Thryduulf: To this end, would you (hypothetically) propose this title get re-nominated once the pageviews begin to decline? While the redirect might technically get people to the "right target" in the present time, "upcoming" is no longer an accurate description and is a costly redirect to maintain. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:03, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      Once the page views have (all-but) ceased then yes it will be fine to be renominated. WP:COSTLY is an essay that grossly overstates the actual costs of redirects (which are actually WP:CHEAP). In cases like this the cost of maintaining the redirect is essentially zero so the benefit from deletion is also essentially zero, but the costs of making it significantly harder for readers to find the content they are looking for are significant. Depending on the combination how they are searching or browsing for the content, what device/browser they are using, and what type of access level they have (anon, confirmed, administrator) a deleted redirect can result in someone being multiple clicks/taps away from the content instead of being taken directly there. Thryduulf (talk) 22:11, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Thryduulf. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:25, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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1Ph0n3

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:53, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not a plausible misspelling. Deauthorized. (talk) 19:50, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Likely to be a CSD R3 candidate as well. Utopes (talk / cont) 20:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete, don't speedy. This is the leet respelling of the target and as such gets thousands of hits on Google and is not therefore sufficiently implausible to be a G3 candidate. I'm not sure that it's a useful redirect as there is no particular affinity between leet and iPhones (that I'm aware of, but I'm very much not part of either culture) so the spirit of WP:RFOREIGN probably applies. Thryduulf (talk) 21:34, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Struckthrough possible CSD candidacy. My rationale behind it was that this subject has no notable affinity about being written in leetspeak, as much as any other topic would be. The only (admittedly very loose) association that exists is that both are "technological", but that's about it. The ghits I did not factor in, but almost all results for "1ph0n3" are just that word being included in paragraphs of leet, mainly stemming from a 2021 song on spotify that happens to include that as one of the words.
Side note, but I would not have considered leet to be treated as a foreign language, as I feel regular foreign-language redirects are probably more valid of spellings and search terms. Nobody actually SPEAKS in leet exclusively (at least, I don't think anyone does), meaning that 1ph0n3 wouldn't be the "resorting search term that was created for those who speak leet language", but the slow deletion is probably preferable here. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:16, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Climber (climbing)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 11#Climber (climbing)

Invest 99-L

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The result of the discussion was keep. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:48, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The later RfD at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 17#Invest 93L suggests consensus may no longer be in support of having this redirect, plus in this case, the hyphenated usage is extremely uncommon. Jasper Deng (talk) 19:05, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: You say that "this 93-L RfD suggests consensus leans towards the removal of this 99-L redirect". Firstly, that particular 93-L RfD is still ongoing and receiving active participation as recently as 10 minutes ago while I'm typing. Alluding that the "consensus is already there" in regards to the outcome of an unfinished RfD does not quite bode well in my opinion, especially when you're directly involved via your deletion vote and your ongoing discussion comments from a few hours ago. These redirect titles could have been easily aired within that discussion as "follow-up redirects to pursue at RfD". There is no WP:RUSH for this discussion to be happening simultaneously to the other one, as the 93-L discussion has been a "hot-topic RfD" up for 3 weeks with multiple relists, and it's still being talked about. Asking editors to juggle this alongside the other RfD that has not yet finished, under the presumption that "consensus has already been decided as delete, so the rest of the similar redirects should get nominated straight-away" is not a great practice and can create confusing contexts, in my opinion. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:59, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)As for what to do, I feel this discussion (as well as the other two new RfDs) should probably be closed for the time being to allow the Invest 93-L RfD to finish once everyone says their piece, and allow for an official result to come to pass. If it ultimately closes with a "retarget" verdict, then these extra three nominations won't serve much of a purpose once the precedent has been set (as I presume these will be treated the same way). If 93-L ends up being deleted, THEN I think is a good time to nominate the other three redirects in a bundle, rather than three different discussions. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:51, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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AZK

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 15:13, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Create a disambiguation page at Draft:AZK (disambiguation). Here, there are kinase AZK and a code for Azalhelikopter. It's not known if there is an .azk file extension, but it's likely Amazon Kindle. If AZK has a relation to Azad Kashmir, please redirect Azk to it. 176.33.244.251 (talk) 17:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Tarāpuku

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The result of the discussion was keep. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:47, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misspelling of Maori-language term Tarāpuka. Does not seem like a plausible typographical error ArcticSeeress (talk) 17:29, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Not a plausible keyboarding error on a qwerty keyboard, but it is a plausible misspelling, which, I suspect, is how it came about. It is not clear to me that any of the ten reasons for deleting a redirect apply. And it's not obvious to me that it is doing any harm. I also see no reason to retarget it. Ultimately I don't care much whether it is kept or deleted. Nurg (talk) 08:16, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Francesco Antonio Bertuccio

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 06:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling not used in article or in sources ArcticSeeress (talk) 18:43, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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PartiaTë Gjelbërit e Shqipërisë

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:53, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Likely meant to redirect to Green Party of Albania, but the missed space between "Partia" and "të" makes it meaningless; implausible typo. Zero page views in last 90 days ArcticSeeress (talk) 11:52, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Yeni Mersin İdmanyurdu

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:56, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Being a phoenix club of the former Mersin İdman Yurdu, it should have its own article as it's a separate legal entity. – anlztrk (talk) 13:28, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Multi-member university

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. signed, Rosguill talk 14:57, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This terminology is no longer mentioned at the target; all mentions of "multi-member university" were scrubbed and replaced with "university systems"... although even with that being said, "multi-member university" is still a vague search term and, to my understanding, not necessarily unique to universities in Vietnam. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:14, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Gary Meyer

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 06:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Better as a search term the can lead readers to the many "Gary Meyer"s mentioned in articles than as a redirect from a misspelling. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:37, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Attha

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 06:36, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how this is related to soul, probably a misunderstanding for the Pāli word for soul, that is atta, without an h. (Pāli is used in Theravāda Buddhism.) Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 14:32, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. If OP's assumption is correct, leaving the redirect is still probably better than deleting it for exactly that confusion. If there is something the word is more likely to be reference to, retarget there. Deleting the redirect has no benefit, the redirect existing has no additional cost. - Darker Dreams (talk) 16:21, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Gwynfryn and Cefndeuddwr baronet

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Cite article

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Citation. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:10, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This WP:XNR was originally created to target {{Cite article}} which was itself deleted at TfD, and this was automatically redirected to {{Cite news}} by User:AnomieBOT/docs/TemplateSubster as {{Cite article}} was a redirect to {{Cite news}}. As {{Cite article}} was deleted at RfD last year for ambiguity at this RfD Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 3#Template:Cite article, this too should be deleted. TartarTorte 18:06, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Boxing at the 2023 Pacific Games

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:24, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SELFRED from 2023 Pacific Games Yoblyblob (talk / cont) 16:13, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoblyblob: I wanted to note that Archery at the 2023 Pacific Games and Athletics at the 2023 Pacific Games have also been created by the same user. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:24, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Hey man im josh thank you, will mark those in a bit. Yoblyblob (talk) 18:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Bullet trains

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Bullet train. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:57, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose retarget to Bullet train because "Shinkansen" is the name of the bullet trains in Japan, but other high speed train systems also are called "bullet trains". Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 13:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Skolar

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Wikipedia:PYRZQXGL

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 15:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

As a nonsense smashing of letters, this is impossible to be useful moving forward. Was used once, at User talk:Iridescent/Archive 34, as an example of some obscure policy. It was subsequently turned blue, which IMO ruined the effect. -- Tavix (talk) 16:38, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Coats of arms of the Holy See and Vatican City

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The result of the discussion was keep. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:33, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article used to group the two topics together, but I have split the article into two distinct articles. This resulted in an WP:XY situation. I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 09:00, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:57, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The Trash

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Trash. as an alternative to deletion. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:32, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not described as such anywhere on the page. Maybe there's an alternative target but... I wouldn't count on it. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:21, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Impeachment of Joe Biden

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The result of the discussion was keep. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing this redirect in the queue, I felt it was worth the discussion. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. As this situation currently stands, there is no impeachment, so this redirect's existence in the first place is possibly misleading. If there is an impeachment, then this redirect should exist (although it would probably be an article instead by that point). In the meantime, I feel this redirect, which claims there is an impeachment, may be out-of-place in the current state of events. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep; I think this is fine. While incorrect, I think that impeachment is often used colloquially, or as a shortening of "proposed impeachment". The lede clarifies quick enough for the confused reader. J947 † edits 10:11, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. While technically incorrect this is a highly plausible search term, likely used by those who are not familiar with the technicalities of what impeachment actually means and/or who don't know whether he has been impeached or not. The target explains the situation so will clear up any misconceptions, misunderstandings, misrememberings or other confusion. Thryduulf (talk) 15:49, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nom comment: If this redirect stays in existence, would the article for the Impeachment inquiry against Joe Biden be the more appropriate target for this title? The article in question (for the impeachment inquiry) was created last month, and seems to speak about the impeachment in a much more tangible manner, rather than hand-wavingly referring to the "efforts to impeach", which is not as firm as the current redirect's title suggests it would be.
As a relevant example, the article for Impeachment of Donald Trump is a disambiguation page that includes Impeachment inquiry against Donald Trump as a high ranking target option, while the "efforts to impeach Donald Trump" article is relegated to the See Also section. Utopes (talk / cont) 20:25, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Botanical & Zoological Garden

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Complex/Rational 12:30, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are multiple locations with this name, among multiple variations of this name. To me, it is not overwhelming clear that this particular garden is what is being sought with this search term; alternatives include Botanical and Zoological Garden of Tsimbazaza, Hong Kong Zoological and Botanical Gardens, and other slight typographical differences. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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National and University Library

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Matty (artist)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Matty (name). ✗plicit 06:36, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is nobody on Wikipedia named Matty who is listed as an "artist". While this likely refers to musical artists, there are multiple people named Matty to whom this description would apply. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:24, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Matty (musician)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Matty (name). ✗plicit 06:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are multiple musicians named Matty. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:23, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Matty (singer)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Matty (name). ✗plicit 06:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are multiple singers named Matty. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:22, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I intentionally didn't combine in case there were occasions where some "Matty"'s were musicians, but not specifically singers. Or, in case an artist named "Matty" pops up which may warrant the primary target for being an artist. You're right, they likely could have been, though. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:40, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Matty

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Stephen Hawking CH CBE FRS FRSA

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. I am withdrawing this RfD; Hawking appears in numerous sources with these titles which I didn't fully understand the significance of at first. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 06:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

While these seem to be a list of companionships and fellowships Hawking has been recognized by, I'm unsure how plausible of a search term it would be to include these recognitions after completing the name of the subject. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:02, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Misophaes

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Andronikos I Komnenos. signed, Rosguill talk 15:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target article, although the names do sound somewhat similar. I would suggest retargeting this to Andronikos I Komnenos, to which "Misophaes" appears to be one of his epithets. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Osemanverse

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Ken Marschall (disambiguation)

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List of Taipei Taishin Mars head coaches

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these articles. ✗plicit 06:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Three redirects that were created a month apart from each other, which point to a "list" of head coaches. However, this team was only just created this year, and there is only one head coach. There is no indication as to when in the future the next head coach will be brought in, if there will be. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:22, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Upcoming Olivia Rodrigo album

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 06:33, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not upcoming, for one. Will become a WP:COSTLY title to maintain for future albums. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:16, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Xi̱taꞌén

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 06:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This name is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. I was unable to find anything online via a cursory search, either. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:00, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ohio College Republican Federation

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 06:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No reason to have a redirect for this particular chapter, which is not referred to anywhere at the target page. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:56, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Xi Mude

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The result of the discussion was keep. There is agreement that this is a plausible alternative spelling. signed, Rosguill talk 15:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of "Mude" at the target, and the only mention of "Xi" is in reference to the target's sister. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:24, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: This is the target's Chinese name in Pinyin (without tones). --ItMarki (talk) 05:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep since pinyin-based romanization is a common/standard method readers can ordinarily expect, even though in this case it's not the person's usual English name. It's in the infobox (admittedly collapsed in desktop mode; with diacritics) and some articles will also put it in the lead sentence or elsewhere too. Adumbrativus (talk) 07:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you for pointing this out! I didn't even realize that box was on the page, and was very confused when I stumbled across this redirect referring to someone that was seemingly not mentioned. If this is an accurate romanization then I'd be alright with closing this discussion, as this can be a plausible alternative spelling for the individual's name, then. Utopes (talk / cont) 19:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Linday

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 06:32, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is nobody named "Linday" at the given page. Possible WP:XY with Lindsay as well. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:13, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirects with zero width characters

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 06:32, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

These redirects match existing redirects to their targets or the target itself, excepting the addition of zero-width joiners for two and a zero width non-joiner for the other. All are unlikely search terms that do not serve any navigational purpose, but too old for WP:R3. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:8489:A874:5C01:59F3 (talk) 02:37, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete R3 is really about allowing implausible redirects out. Even though it technically might not apply, the spirit is more important than the letter. In other words, fix all the links to the one without the non-printing character and then delete. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 16:02, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The Baby (Resident Evil)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 06:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of "Baby" of any variety mentioned at the target article Utopes (talk / cont) 02:11, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(I believe that is the character being referred to in this redirect, according to the Resident Evil fan wiki. Nevertheless, it's not here at this target.) Utopes (talk / cont) 06:19, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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