Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 24

June 24

Irish field hockey players

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:04, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Armagh‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Armagh‎ (15), Category:Irish field hockey players (30) and Category:Field hockey players from Northern Ireland (12)

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Clare‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Clare‎ (20) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Donegal‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Donegal‎ (30) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Galway‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Galway‎ (31) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Kerry‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Kerry‎ (40) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Kilkenny‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Kilkenny‎ (20) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Limerick‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Limerick‎ (20) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Londonderry‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Londonderry‎ (20) and Category:Irish field hockey players and ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Field hockey players from Northern Ireland

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Louth‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Louth‎ (21) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Tipperary‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Tipperary‎ (26) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Tyrone‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Tyrone‎ (26) and Category:Irish field hockey players and ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Field hockey players from Northern Ireland

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Waterford‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Waterford‎ (15) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Wexford‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Wexford‎ (13) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Merge Category:Field hockey players from County Wicklow‎ (0) to Category:Sportspeople from County Wicklow‎ (27) and Category:Irish field hockey players

Rationale: There are 124 members in all in ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Irish field hockey players and 32 counties, ie around 4 per county. Moreover County Dublin has 48 and County Antrim (Belfast) has 17, leaving around 60 to be distributed amongst 30 counties. Clearly that any attempt to split up Irish field hockey players much further by county is doomed (indeed not one other passes user:William Allen Simpson’s stated minimum requirement of 10, County Down leading the way with 8). In addition to the small numbers, Sheelagh Murnaghan, say, is being categorised as a hockey player when the only mention of hockey in her article relates to her student days. Bill Haughton was a hockey player but is again categorised by place of birth (unsourced), contrary to WP:COP-PLACE. (“Haughton played [cricket] once for Ireland, a first-class match against Glamorgan on 23 May 1953. He was dismissed for a duck in both innings”) Editors populating these categories should take responsibility for their edits rather than relying on ‘Petscan assured me this would be fine’. Oculi (talk) 22:51, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge All for Now with no objection to recreating any that reach 5+ articles. It's hard to imagine a tree further from a "large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme" as envisioned in WP:SMALLCAT since fully half have just 1 article. (If it ever gets to the point where just a couple are small, then it would make sense navigationally to complete the set.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom, simply not enough eligible articles to be split systematically across so many subcats. Crowsus (talk) 17:06, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
'No objection. That set ended up with a weird distribution: a big cluster in Dublin, then a v long thin tail. Other sets had one or the other, but not both. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:25, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Query Are they not part of an established tree structure? Do they not have potential for growth? Should there not be consistency in the application of the SmallCat exception? Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:13, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Irish trade unionists

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 11#Irish trade unionists

Category:Pathological science

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 04:14, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Pathological science to Category:Pseudoscience

Nominator's rationale: WP:TRIVIALCAT, WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, basically just means "particularly annoying pseudoscience" - car chasm (talk) 03:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, pathological science seems to be a particular type of pseudoscience. It is not a very defining term though. But I am also not sure if the articles of this category really belong in pseudoscience. Category:Types of scientific fallacy, seems a better merge target, provided that this category is kept, maybe under another name. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:45, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move to subcategory of Category:Types of scientific fallacy. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Anachronist: That target category has been nominated for deletion. (No opinion on that outcome.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Too subjective. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 21:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Listify. It has a main category called pathological science, so in theory it should be okay. I certainly don't think it's trivial, it can be really dangerous. But as a term, "pathological science" may be somewhat subjective or arbitrary as a classification, also vis-à-vis pseudoscience as said (where does one end and the other begin?). Listify allows us to support each classification with RS. Categorisation does not give us that option. The main article is already full of cited examples, so that seems a logical way to go. If anyone doubts whether calling Foo a pathological science is valid, we can support it with an RS. If we can't, the item Foo can be removed from the list. Seems the best option to me. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:08, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I think this is a good idea in addition to a merge. The nomination reasons are WP:OC-specific policy reasons, not value judgements on the concept itself. Plenty of things can be verifiable and notable but still WP:OC, pathological is certainly peripheral to "pseudoscience" or "discredited" and the fact that we can verify that a WP:RS called it pathological doesn't make their assessment "non-subjective" in the WP:SUBJECTIVECAT sense. - car chasm (talk) 04:13, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah,I guess Listify & Merge is the best option then. Both. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:36, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
See parallel discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_May_21#Category:Types_of_scientific_fallacy, the discussion now tends to manual split. ~~I suppose the two nominations should be closed likewise.~~ Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The latter may no longer apply as the other discussion tends to deletion. Maybe there is something to salvage here. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 21:42, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose listifying: the examples that are called pathological science are already in the article and any other examples should not be added to the article because that would be entirely arbitrary. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (or merge) per Marcocappelle. — Qwerfjkl talk 17:57, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
UpMerge to Category:Obsolete scientific theories (and diffuse to subcats as appropriate). I think there's a difference between something like cold fusion, and talking about the paranormal. So I think pseudoscience isn't quite the right target. (Which could be part of why there is such a divergence of thought on this.) I might suggest Listifying, but since, per Marcocapelle, they already are, no need for that, I suppose. - jc37 19:56, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Exploration video games

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 13#Category:Exploration video games

Category:Lithuanian emigration

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Lithuanian emigration to Category:Lithuanian diaspora

Nominator's rationale: The contents are not about emigration per se as the communities in which they find themselves. Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Many articles may be moved from Category:American emigration to Category:American diaspora for the same reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lists of schools in Nagaland

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The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Lists of schools in Nagaland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 19:03, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Merging is not needed, the article is adequately categorized already. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:International Association of Engineers

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The result of the discussion was: Dual merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:International Association of Engineers to Category:Engineering societies

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 18:13, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge also to Category:International professional associations. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Old userspace drafts

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Category:Teach For America alumni

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The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Teach For America alumni (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF. Teach for America is a short-term teaching program and not defining for these people, most of whom are politicians and lawyers. It is similar to AmeriCorps VISTA, which was deleted in 2020 and Peace Corps volunteers, which was deleted in April. User:Namiba 17:10, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:PERFCAT and WP:NOT. Most of these articles are about people who are no longer educators who brandish this early work experience to show what a great person they are. And maybe they are great people! But this is Wikipedia not LinkedIn. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Telecom Italia

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The result of the discussion was: Rename (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Telecom Italia to Category:TIM Group

Nominator's rationale: New company name; as the name of the related page: TIM Group. Epicamused (talk) 15:51, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per WP:C2D. This could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:45, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy (leaving Redirect) The main article was renamed with a formal RM so the category should match. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:25, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rename. Azuredivay (talk) 12:50, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lords of Worb

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Lords of Worb to Category:Swiss nobility and Category:People from Worb

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:39, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge both because of the small size per nom and because it doesn't seem defining to the 1 article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:28, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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People educated by school in GB

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:01, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nom	School	Live page count
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Arran High School	Arran High School	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Auchmuty High School	Auchmuty High School	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Biggar High School	Biggar High School	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Calderside Academy	Calderside Academy	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Central Foundation Girls' School	Central Foundation Girls' School	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Chilton Cantelo School	Chilton Cantelo School	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Chryston High School	Chryston High School	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Devizes School	Devizes School	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Fernhill School, Rutherglen	Fernhill School, Rutherglen	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Girvan Academy	Girvan Academy	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Hillpark Secondary School	Hillpark Secondary School	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Kyle Academy	Kyle Academy	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Mulberry School for Girls	Mulberry School for Girls	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Seven Kings High School	Seven Kings High School	0
Populate or delete ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:People educated at Spalding High School, Lincolnshire	Spalding High School, Lincolnshire	0

Rationale: all of the above categories have 1 article at the time of listing. Previous cfds (often nominated by user:Bearcat) have deleted high school alumni categories on WP:SMALLCAT grounds, such as this cfd. In contrast this more recent cfd has stimulated editors to populate most of them, an excellent outcome. A search such as this for Fernhill might find potential additions. When adding an article for an alumnus, the school should be mentioned in the article, preferably sourced. In some cases the school article, linked in the table above, will have a list of illustrious alumni. (The nominator has no obligation to make any attempt to populate any categories created by others. That responsibility lies entirely with the creator of a category, whose first edits post-creation should be to find members, and delete the wretched thing if no more can be found.) Oculi (talk) 12:39, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete if not populated, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:41, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support I'm not even going to read this. I'm supporting because I just love the table. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:34, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All for Now with no objection to recreation if any reach 5+ articles so they aid navigation. Also, the onus is on the category creator to initially populate their creations. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all, either insufficient for a category or no effort made by creator or others to find enough to make valid, none are new. Crowsus (talk) 17:02, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Irish police officers by county

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 13#Irish police officers by county

Category:History of political thought journals

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:History of political thought journals to Category:Works about the history of political thought and Category:History of social science journals and Category:Political science journals

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 10:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:48, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Irish astrophysicists

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 2#Category:Irish astrophysicists

Imperial Chinese government officials by province

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 13#Imperial Chinese government officials by province

Kings of Syria

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:1st-century BC kings of Syria‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:Kings of Syria and Category:1st-century BC monarchs in the Middle East
Propose merging Category:2nd-century BC kings of Syria‎ (1 C) to Category:Kings of Syria and Category:2nd-century BC monarchs in the Middle East
Propose merging Category:20th-century kings of Syria‎ (1 P) to Category:Kings of Syria and ~~Category:20th-century monarchs in Asia~~ Category:20th-century monarchs in the Middle East

Nominator's rationale: merge redundant category layer as we already have categories of Seleucid kings by century. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:14, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Curious as to why Category:20th-century monarchs in the Middle East does not exist. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:00, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is odd. I created the category now. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Barons of Bernberg

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Barons of Bernberg to Category:Nobility in North America

Nominator's rationale: merge, the category only contains one article, about a landgrave in North Carolina. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge That one article is also the only member of Category:Lords of Worb. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:26, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Gates in the United Arab Emirates

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:11, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Gates in the United Arab Emirates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only contains one entry, which is not really a gate. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, or else merge to Category:Gates. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination Vyvagaba (talk) 10:11, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Commercial buildings in the United Arab Emirates

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:11, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Commercial buildings in the United Arab Emirates to Category:Buildings and structures in the United Arab Emirates by type

Nominator's rationale: This will only contain one category after the below nomination. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, irrespective of the outcome of the below discussion, because with only two subcategories it is also a redundant category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Museums in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:12, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Museums in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Pointless category layer. Contains only two subcategories that can be reached via other paths from all parents. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not useful and is already covered by Category:Museums in the United Arab Emirates by city Vyvagaba (talk) 10:16, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. There is no need to merge, the content is already in Category:Museums in the United Arab Emirates by city and Category:Buildings and structures in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:02, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep — calling this and other categories on this page "pointless" is denigrating to the creating editors, and other users, to whom the categories are not pointless. These categories match those for several "united" counties such as the UAE, UK, and USA, with sub-regions such as emirates/nations/states. Better reasoning based on Wikipedia policy rather than a personal and discourteous opinion is needed. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 15:13, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for Now for now. Grouping these 2 subcategories doesn't aid navigation but, if there is future growth with direct articles or additional subcats, it may have use later. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:11, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note — this category included two categories and an article on a museum. There are most likely other museums without an existing article in this category too since the Emirate of Abu Dhabi is far larger than just the cities of Abu Dhabi and Al Ain. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 18:19, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is there some reason that article can't just be put directly in Category:Museums in the United Arab Emirates? This is the only "by emirate" subcategory of that, and the parent isn't large enough to need further diffusion. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:21, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pyramids in Dubai

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Pyramids in Dubai to Category:Buildings and structures in Dubai and Category:Pyramids in Asia

Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. The parent Category:Pyramids in the United Arab Emirates has no other members. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Hard to see this category ever reaching 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:48, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge It's not even a true pyramid. It's pyramidally or pyramidallic. Donchajustlove neologisms? Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:07, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Skyscraper hotels in the United Arab Emirates by city

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:14, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Skyscraper hotels in the United Arab Emirates by city to Category:Skyscraper hotels in the United Arab Emirates

Nominator's rationale: Pointless category layer. This is the only subcategory of its parent. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge for Now iwth no objection to recreating if any content arises. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:04, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Skyscraper office buildings in the United Arab Emirates by city

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:17, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Skyscraper office buildings in the United Arab Emirates by city to Category:Skyscraper office buildings in the United Arab Emirates

Nominator's rationale: Pointless category layer. This is the only subcategory of its parent. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge for Now with no objection to recreation if more content appears later. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Office buildings in the United Arab Emirates

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 13#Office buildings in the United Arab Emirates

Category:Buildings and structures in Dubai by condition

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:18, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Dubai by condition to Category:Buildings and structures in Dubai

Nominator's rationale: Pointless category layer. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:29, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. "by condition"? Really? Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:25, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That reminds me: also merge per this precedent: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_April_7#By_condition. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Recipients of the Naguib Mahfouz Medal for Literature

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The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose Deleting Category:Recipients of the Naguib Mahfouz Medal for Literature

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD, WP:PERFCAT, WP:NONDEFINING

The American University in Cairo has an annual project where they pick a worthy book in Arabic, translate it into English, and then publish it through their University Press. The Naguib Mahfouz Medal for Literature definitely fits the school's cross-cultural mission. This category groups authors who wrote the winning books but those biography articles don't treat this award as defining, generally listing it with other honours. The category contents are already listified right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Background We deleted another university award/publishing deal category right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:35, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Prix Jean Freustié winners

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The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose Deleting Category:Prix Jean Freustié winners

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD, WP:NONDEFINING

The Jean Freustié Prize is a literary award from France given to French-language authors of "prose work: a novel, short story, autobiography, biography or essay". The author articles don't treat this award as defining, generally listing it with other honours. This is one of many French literary award categories created in late 2016/early 2017. The category contents are already listified right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:35, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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