Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wurgessa massacre

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails to meet notability (WP:GNG). The Atlas makes no mention of perpetrators and the article itself is POV pushing (i.e making assumptions that the Atlas never made). They only say: "A mob killed 28 Tigrayan civilians while they were being transported to Addis Ababa." I don't see how that even justify its own article. Ue3lman (talk) 05:03, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethiopia-related deletion discussions. Ue3lman (talk) 05:03, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I can't find any coverage of the mass killing besides the two sources provided, and even that is quite lacking in any sort of detail. I say "two", but given the content on their about us page, both the Tigray Atlas of the Humanitarian Situation and Ethiopia: Tigray War evidently use the same dataset and are maintained by the same research group. It is perhaps of note that this article appears to have been created with a bundle of others on massacres in the Tigray War, many of which have been similarly deleted for lack of notability - see this AfD discussion on a group of 25 articles and this discussion as well. Maybe some of these would be better folded into Tigray War or War crimes in the Tigray War (if they have not been already). Shells-shells (talk) 05:54, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Not enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. --Zander251 (talk) 06:20, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I agree with nom, right now not enough coverage to justify inclusion. If there are further mentions found later on please re-create. Fails WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 13:43, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Only two citations, neither reliable source. The first citation is a not-yet-peer reviewed paper uploaded to ResearchGate. The website of the second citation (ethiopiatigraywar.com) is run by the same people in the first citation. Also, the creator of the page was blocked as sockpuppet. Delete. Platonk (talk) 07:02, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - most of the pages created by this user fall victim to the same issues listed above by other users. They never should have made it through WP:NPP. --WMSR (talk) 18:20, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to another article: I'm getting a bit tired of the repeated mass-deletion of Tigray-related articles.

But then again, this could come in handy if used in a list, so we should probably make an article with a title somewhere around Killings of Tigrayans in Amhara Region or Killings of Tigrayans in Amhara Region during the Tigray War. We could then just give it a passing mention, like this article's sources do. Dunutubble (talk) 02:43, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dunutubble: You are getting tired of...these AfDs? Try doing the actual cleanup of the mess created by that advocacy spammer! Some of us are having to clean it up. There are already two articles where the only relevant content is already listed: Casualties of the Tigray War and Timeline of the Tigray War (July 2021–present)#5 August. Platonk (talk) 08:16, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. I do not mind keeping or redirecting this. 28 victims would be a major massacre. Articles can be improved with sufficient sourcing. Right now I do not see sources for keep or even for as little as a redirect. Tag me if more sources are found. gidonb (talk) 02:50, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • You must have missed the two prior AfDs on 9 Nov (106 articles) and 17 Nov (25 articles). One editor created 106 cookie cutter 'massacre' articles based on a self-published source. Only the dates, places, and number of dead changed. And the body count was from a self-published document on ResearchGate. Platonk (talk) 04:57, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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