Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vito Trause

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The result was Speedy keep, obviously bad faith nom. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 01:56, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Reason- This article is about a guy who did nothing more than serve in the us military like millions of others. There are thousands if not millions that have died which are not listed here. Hence does not meet WP:GNG.Bobbybob2021 (talk) 22:49, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• Speedy Keep. The nominator, who appears to have made an account just for the purpose of deleting this article, is making a WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST argument about an article and comes up with a big swing-and-a-miss in a failed attempt to tie that to GNG. There's no valid argument made by the nom for deletion; the fact that there is plenty of significant coverage of the individual across several decades in the forty-five sources in the article are clear evidence that this individual meets WP:GNG. They include multiple in-depth pieces on the individual from reliable newspapers while he was alive, a government-issued biography on the individual, and multiple bylined obituaries from independent WP:NEWSORGs, as well as international(!) coverage of the individual's graduation from high school at age 92. There's good reason why this article was accepted at WP:AfC and moved to the mainspace. While there were indeed a lot of people who served in World War II, it is significant coverage that determines this individual's notability, and the nom fundamentally makes no claim that could, on its face, be taken as a reasonable deletion argument. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 23:05, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you know this guy MikeHawk10. Am I right or live on the street named after him. It’s not special he has a street named after him. Tons of service members fire fighters and police have streets name after them. It does not hurt to have this article It’s just there is no interest in this guy and he has been mentioned on occasion in newspapers one of the highest ranking articles is this guy’s obituary. He Is not notable. I just use my IP address to edit and have never nominated an article. Half way through they required an account. I feel so strongly about your friends article being deleated that I actually made an account. Honestly, do you think anyone cares who this guy is regardless if he passes GNG? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbybob2021 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Bobbybob2021: While I am familiar with who he was (it's kinda hard to write a biography article without knowing that a guy exists), I did not personally know the guy. You seem to think that I'm his friend, though I'd remind you that there are very few 90+ year-old Wikipedia editors and I'm not one of them. If you're going to argue that he's not notable, then please give a reasonable policy or guideline-based article for his deletion rather than pursuing an WP:IDONTLIKEIT style of argumentation. Regarding your do you think anyone cares who this guy is line, yes, I do. Certainly the newspapers that dispatched reporters to write about his passing thought so, as well as the various other sources that have provided him significant coverage throughout his life. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 01:43, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    And, again, it's not that he has a street named after him that makes him notable. What makes him notable is that he's received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent from him. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 01:51, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    • Mike, When I type “ Vito Trause” into the search engine google on the first page comes up two obituary’s on him one copied the other and then I see a link to his Wikipedia article and a very small town news paper. He is not noteworthy. These sources are not well known or reliable. Type his name in for yourself. -bobbybob2021 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:196:4B00:2F40:D810:1517:E27:4F97 (talk) 01:54, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as the nominator does not appear to understand WP:GNG. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:41, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]