Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vaihei Samin

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The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:30, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vaihei Samin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Oceania. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - plenty about her in French, and I've updated the article accordingly.--IdiotSavant (talk) 14:57, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify (to not say keep) – Found sources → [1][2][3][4] – Nominator, seeing the current appearance of the article is not enough to nominate. Please, search for sources before doing this type of nominations.--MonFrontieres (talk) 16:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – If there are finally more "keep" than "draftify" votes, count mine as keep in that case.--MonFrontieres (talk) 20:06, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  I agree that she has substantial coverage, but just so you know for the future, organizations someone belongs to are not independent and so cannot count toward GNG. That would include your first and fourth sources. EDIT: actually it looks like the Tahiti Infos source also fails independence, as it was written by FTF (the Tahitian football federation). Of your sources, that leaves only the TNTV interview as independent, which, while it does contain substantial commentary by the author, is also coverage of her youth career, which has stricter requirements for meeting NSPORT. JoelleJay (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per sources found by IS. GiantSnowman 19:01, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I also found a lot of French sources about her online. Also, she is capped internationally for Tahiti. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 21:14, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. International player and in significant club as well. The sources provided by IdiotSavant and MonFrontieres show GNG.--Mvqr (talk) 11:04, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete. I was initially going to !vote weak keep, but then I looked into the sources a bit more. The TNTV interview (which does have significant commentary outside of quotes) could partially contribute to GNG, with the caveat that it is youth coverage, meaning much tighter requirements are in place. The other TNTV interview (of her and her grandma) is purely Q&A so does not count toward GNG. The Oceania Football Confederation and Tahitian Football Federation sources are not independent so do not go towards GNG. The Tahiti Infos sources [5][6][7][8] also fail independence, as they were written by the Tahitian Football Federation (FTF). The Sports Tahiti ref only has two independent sentences on her, the rest being Q&A, so is not SIGCOV. To meet GNG, we would need at least one more source of independent, very significant coverage not from TNTV and not on her youth career. JoelleJay (talk) 19:16, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Passes GNG. Simione001 (talk) 05:54, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting in light of new improvements in the article
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:47, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - I see no problem with using the continental federation OFC as a source and evidence of notability. If someone had a lengthy article in UEFA, AFC or CONCACAF, my stance would be the same. With TNTV also showing SIGCOV, I believe that this meets WP:GNG, which is not meant to be this super high bar. I fully support deleting all articles which would be impossible to expand beyond a simple stats stub but we have decent sources to build a reasonable article from here and it doesn't violate WP:NOT so we should keep it. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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