Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Richmond (racing driver, born 1998)

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The result was keep Tim Richmond, delete Brandon Lynn and Eddie Fatscher. bibliomaniac 1 5 00:54, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Richmond (racing driver, born 1998)

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Fails WP:NMOTORSPORT and WP:GNG. Two of the four sources are dead links that probably led to series press releases and the other two sources are routine directory-style entries that do not establish notability. Best, Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 17:00, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(add-on: also nominating Brandon Lynn and Eddie Fatscher for being non-notable motorsport drivers whose articles are completely sourced by press releases and the like.) Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 17:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete all three. All articles have sources that are press releases, thus don't meet the GNG. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 17:53, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Brandon Lynn and Eddie Fatscher, Keep OR Draft Tim Richmond. After reading through all three articles, I agree they are short in length and there's not a lot of articles besides press releases out there about all three drivers at the moment.
Brandon Lynn: His article should also be deleted because I never finished the "personal life" section when I first wrote the article a few months ago, so it looks incomplete and lacking enough info. Plus, he doesn't have a ride so far this year.
Eddie Fatscher: This article looks a little more complete than Lynn's, but again, the sources are all press releases copied and pasted into all these different racing websites (not new, original articles that explain their background and successes). Fatscher also did not race in ARCA or another series in 2019.
Tim Richmond: On the other hand, unlike Lynn and Fatscher, Richmond is currently a full-time competitor in the series. Luckily, one of the dead links was web archived before the ARCA website remodel (when the article was lost), and it was actually not a press release. Richmond also had a road racing career before coming to ARCA, and that's not in his article right now, so maybe we draft it and then add it back when it looks more complete? Do you guys think that one archived article is enough to keep it or draft it? Regardless of what we do, we'd need to get more sources that aren't from the ARCA website about him. I think Willsome, you told me in the past that it's not the best thing if all the sources about a driver come from the ARCA site only. Let me know your thoughts.

Cavanaughs (talk) 23:43, 3 April 2020 (UTC)Cavanaughs[reply]
— Note to closing admin: Cavanaughs (talk • contribs) is the creator of the pages that are the subjects of this AfD. Forgot to include this... Here's the Tim Richmond archived article on the ARCA site that is one of the sources in his article: https://web.archive.org/web/20191223172852/https://www.arcaracing.com/articles/2013226-solid-rookie-season-by-tim-richmond-results-in-tenth-place-in-owners-standings-for-wayne-peterson Cavanaughs (talk) 23:53, 3 April 2020 (UTC)Cavanaughs[reply]

Delete Lynn and Fatscher for sure. I want to lean weak keep on Richmond because it seems as if he's established himself as a full-timer (or at least he would be right now if not for the situation), although I am concerned about a lack of outside sources from the ARCA website. If stuff can be found, it might be worth holding onto, but we'll see. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 02:02, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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