Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tatiana Soskin (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that this should not be a standalone article on WP:NOTNEWS and WP:BLP1E grounds. I've used the references in the article to source the mention of the incident at Freedom of speech versus blasphemy, and a redirect can be created editorially if deemed necessary. Sandstein 06:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tatiana Soskin

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Delete Only known for 1 time event Jude Mountains (talk) 13:36, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Subjects notable only for one event - Wikipedia is not news, or an indiscriminate collection of information. Being in the news does not in itself mean that someone should be the subject of a Wikipedia article. If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having an article on them

Keep. So what if she is only known for one event? There is no separate article on the event, so it is described in her article. Googling shows her case drew significant international attention. —Lowellian (reply) 20:00, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Which is, of course, the whole point of NOTNEWS. Hundreds of thousands of fleeting "news events" will gather multiple press mentions at the time of the event. Wikipedia should not be randomly collecting these, it should be writing on valid historical events and encyclopedic topics. Carrite (talk) 16:35, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Freedom of speech versus blasphemy, where the case is already mentioned but needs more accrate detail and better sourcing. That will satisfy the WP:BLP1E concerns while preserving and putting into a meaningful context the information about the notable incident. --Arxiloxos (talk) 20:17, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:40, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:40, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - The issue here is soruces. But that can be fixed. Until then I say Keep.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:21, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Arxiloxos. Very little stand-alone notability, some notability when considering the greater context. Rami R 17:23, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - the cited article, and other readily available sources such as NY Times (More commonly spelled as Tatiana Suskin), are sufficient to establish notability. Marokwitz (talk) 11:42, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for pointing out the alternate spelling, which produces more news coverage of the event. I added the NYT reference to the article. I agree that the notability of the event is clear, but still think this is more appropriately treated as a BLP1E, better handled by a merge to an article with more context.--Arxiloxos (talk) 14:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Due to WP:BLP1E. --יום יפה (talk) 11:36, 5 April 2011 (UTC) Striking !vote by confirmed sockpuppet. Gatoclass (talk) 02:26, 7 April 2011 (UTC) [reply]
Delete - nothing notable about either the crime or the perpetrator. Fails WP:BLP1E. Gatoclass (talk) 01:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seems more like pure speculations from Gatoglass she doesnt fail WP:BLP1E actually. By life history.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well if you think there is something notable about this person, feel free to add it to the article. At the moment we just have an article about some woman who threw a rock at a car window and got some jail time for it. That is classic BLP1E, except that even the 1E is dubious. Gatoclass (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, she does not fail BLP1E, which says to avoid creating articles for individuals known only for one event if the event has an article. The event does not have an article, so therefore the article for the individual meets BLP1E criteria to keep. —Lowellian (reply) 01:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or merge per Arxiloxos. Neither particularly interesting nor notable. Snakeswithfeet (talk) 05:28, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Interesting" is inherently POV (what subjects are "interesting" will vary from reader to reader) and irrelevant to deletion discussions. "Notability" does matter for deletion discussions, and it is established by the many international media articles for either "Tatiana Soskin" or the alternate spelling "Tatiana Suskin". —Lowellian (reply) 01:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per WP:ONEVENT. take away the crime and she's unknown. LibStar (talk) 06:38, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well take away the politics and Barack Obama is non-notable. Same thing.. No reason to delete in my opinion.,--BabbaQ (talk) 08:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, take away Barack Obama's presidency and he is still notable. it is a ludicrous suggestion to compare the US president with a one time criminal. LibStar (talk) 08:12, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - One-event buffoonery run through the superheated distillery that is the Israeli-Palestinian Civil War. Wikipedia is not a news summary service. Carrite (talk) 16:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.