Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, clone)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. I'm closing this discussion as Keep but encouraging those editors who are advocating a Merge to start a discussion about this on the article talk page and that of the target page. Ultimately, a Merge might be the best solution but with several target articles suggested, that option doesn't carry the day in this discussion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:59, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, clone)

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Another nicely written article (Good Article, even) about an anime character with WP:GNG issues, particularly in the WP:SIGCOV realm. Reception contains some non particularly impressive poll rankings ("In March 2010, Syaoran was ranked twenty-third best male anime character of the 2000"), and critical responce based on the mentions in passing in various reviews of the anime or manga. A telling sign of this having major GNG issues is that next to no source mentions this character in its heading, outside three links to Amazon merchandise about Syaoran plushies, keyrings and such (sigh). I'd suggest merger to Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, original) from which this seems to have been originally split, but sadly, the "original" character faces the same issues. A merger to List of Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle characters might be a reasonable compromise. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:41, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation and Anime and manga. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:41, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Science fiction and fantasy. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:41, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In the "Characterization and themes" [1] "Syaoran" is mentioned in context 13 times. In the "popularity" section, the actor who portrayed the character was nominated for a Seiyu Award. [2], [3]. The reviews are also not taken into account... "Even though Syaoran comes from Cardcaptor Sakura, his personality in Tsubasa couldn’t be more different, and he’s twice as old as his earlier appearance." gives an opinion on the character: [4], [5]. Im sure I can find more, I just skimmed through both the English and Japanese sources used. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:46, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I honestly forgot this page existed and assumed that it had been merged into the list long ago. Personally, the route I would take would be to merge it with Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, original) and rename that article to just Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle) instead. giftheck (talk) 21:34, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Honestly, I find this AFD way too forced. In the reception section, there are comments involving famous singers, talking about the inspiration they got from Syaoran's character to compose theme song while one source is also big guide about the series, citing everything character in regards to what they feel. There is also far more sources already focused on Syaoran like the book "Shōjo Across Media: Exploring "Girl" Practices in Contemporary Japan. Palgrave Macmillan. 2019." and "Anime and Memory: Aesthetic, Cultural and Thematic Perspectives", comparison to the other Syaoran by Comic Book Resources. Seriously, this AFD feels way too forced.Tintor2 (talk) 01:13, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per Knowledgekid87 and Tintor2. Yes some of the sources used in the article aren't spectacular but taken as a whole the existing sources demonstrate Syaoran clearly meets the GNG, and that's without digging for additional sources. Satellizer el Bridget ^(Talk) 06:09, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Giftheck. I would normally be wary of an AFD for something with this much reception. But in this case, there are three articles about the same character with a lot of redundant sources and reception, verging on a WP:REDUNDANTFORK. The best way to cover this would be as a singular article about the character. Shooterwalker (talk) 01:39, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:09, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per arguments provided by other commenters. Pokelego999 (talk) 21:08, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: I'm going to properly cast a vote this time, and officially suggest merging this with the other Syaoran article into a single article at Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle). I agree with the above that said 'Keep', but also agree there are a lot of redundant duplicates between the two that would be dealt with if the two were merged together. I do not agree that either article should be merged into List of Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle characters as this will wind up losing most of the things that would more than work if they were combined into a single, comprehensive article. giftheck (talk) 10:07, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.