Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stefan Merunka

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The result was delete. Other than the article creator and some obvious socks, clear consensus to delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:18, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stefan Merunka

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Contested PROD, non-notable tennis player who fails WP:NTENNIS and WP:GNG. A WP:BEFORE search only found passing mentions. Possibly promotional as well. Iffy★Chat -- 13:11, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Stefan Merunka don’t fail at WP:Ntennis. He is a member of ATP and ITF. He has played second round of ATP 250 Malaysian Open. He deserves a place here. There is a lot of players on this side that don’t even have a half so many good results as Stefan Merunka. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spodeco (talk • contribs) 13:48, 31 October 2018 (UTC) — Spodeco (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and this XFD page. [reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 13:54, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 13:54, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 13:54, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No he fails NSPORT amd Tennis Guidelines. He has never played an ATP Tour event per all sources. He has only played minor league, and minor-minor league events and has never won. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep, passes WP:NTENNIS (3.2) as he has played in ATP World Tour tournaments (ATP World Tour 250). --Gpkp (u • t • c) 16:14, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawing vote.--Gpkp (u • t • c) 15:27, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Gpkp: He has never played an ATP event if you check the sources. It was an error to say so in the article and it has been removed. He hasn't even won a minor league tennis event. Zero. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Gpkp: He has played Qualifying of 3 ATP 250Tournaments. ATP 250 Metz, ATP 250 Kuala Lumpur, ATP Kitzbühel. Spodeco (talk) 20:06, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep, passes. One of the best junior players, won first round round at ATP 250 Kuala Lumpur back in 2014,played ATP 250 in Metz and Kitzbühel, played 1. Division Club Tennis Germany  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:C22:762E:9C00:5D95:7BD0:D376:C8F1 (talk) 19:30, 31 October 2018 (UTC) — 2A01:C22:762E:9C00:5D95:7BD0:D376:C8F1 (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and this XFD page. sockpuppet of Spodeco[reply]

@BabbaQ: He has never played an ATP event if you check the sources. It was an error to say so in the article and it has been removed. He hasn't even won a minor league tennis event. Zero. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@BabbaQ: He has played 3 ATP Tournaments Qualifying. ATP 250 Kuala Lumpur where he won first round qualifying. ATP 250 Kitzbühel and ATP 250 Metz. ::@Fyunck(click): You are saying incorrect stuff. Is this personal against player Stefan Merunka ? He has played 3 ATP Tournaments. Qualifying belong to the Tournament. Or the Qualifying is not Tournament? Player ranked top 100 play Qualifying of ATP 250. Prove of Stefan Merunka :https://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/stefan-merunka/mk29/player-activity?year=2014&tournament=atp ; https://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/stefan-merunka/mk29/player-activity?year=2015&tournament=atp ; Many top 100 Players never won a Tournament. As Tennis Player you lose every week as long you are name is not Federer, Nadal or Djokovic. Spodeco (talk) 20:06, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep, as he appears to meet the requirements of WP:NTENNIS #3. Ejgreen77 (talk) 23:29, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ejgreen77: He has never played an ATP event if you check the sources. It was an error to say so in the article and it has been removed. He hasn't even won a minor league tennis event. Zero. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ejgreen77: You have right Ejgreen77. Stefan Merunka has played 3 ATP 250 Tournaments: https://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/stefan-merunka/mk29/player-activity?year=2015&tournament=atp ; https://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/stefan-merunka/mk29/player-activity?year=2014&tournament=atp ; I would like to see what Stefan Merunka thinks about that when someone announce , he never played ATP. He even won first round Qualifying in ATP 250 Kuala Lumpur. Spodeco (talk) 20:06, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominator comment 3 of the keep votes above are based on a false premise, He doesn't pass NTENNIS. he fails NTENNIS as passing requires playing in the Main Draw at an ATP World Tour event. At the 3 events he played (Malaysia, Austria, France), he only ever won 1 qualifying match (thanks to a fortunate draw) and got nowhere near the main draw. Iffy★Chat -- 08:01, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep, definitely keep the page. I could count you here 50 players or more with 10 times worse results that have page here. I could count you players, that have a page here, that never played any ATP World Tour Tournament or even ATP Challenger Tournament. Stefan Merunka played not one, he played 3 ATP 250, had an professional ATP Ranking for 4 years and so on. It would be very unfair that players like this get deleted and others who don’t match any relevance even close, have one.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.118.26.164 (talk) 09:00, 1 November 2018 (UTC) — 95.118.26.164 (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and this XFD page. Sockpuppet of Spodeco.[reply]

Incorrect, he has played no ATP events. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, Passes please. — The preceding unsigned comment was added at 09:30, 1 November 2018 (UTC). — Note to closing admin: Spodeco (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. — Spodeco (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and this XFD page.
Goodness... I wonder how those articles got linked. What do you know, it was by you. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:42, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Qualifying is not part of being in the main draw of an ATP event. It is a separate round to see if a player can qualify for the main draw. He was wiped out in all those qualifying rounds. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:06, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • First You was saying that he has never played it, that’s absolutely incorrect. According to ATP , qualifying round belongs to ATP 250 - to sign for it, you need to have ATP Points. If you have an ATP Points you are professional. Only 2000 players have ATP Points between 500.000 players trying to get it. Tennis is very hard and Players like him deserves a page here. Playing in ATP 250 in Kuala Lumpur and winning the match in front of 5500 people is not notable ? ( to see on atp stream ) Spodeco (talk) 20:16, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
He has never played in those tournaments. He played in qualifying rounds to make those tournament main draws. He failed badly. He did not play in an ATP 250 event in Kuala Lumper. NSPORT and Tennis Project Guidelines are very clear on this issue. You are notable if
Has competed in the main draw in one of these higher level professional tournaments:
Grand Slam tournaments.
Men: ATP World Tour tournaments (the ATP World Tour Finals, ATP World Tour Masters 1000, ATP World Tour 500, or ATP World Tour 250).
Women: WTA Tour tournaments (the WTA Premier, the WTA International, or the WTA Tour Championships).
Has won at least one title in any of the ATP Men's Challenger tournaments.
This guy is not even remotely close. He is a minor-minor league player.... one of countless thousands. You are brand new here so maybe you haven't read through all the wikipedia guidelines. Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis/Article guidelines under notability. And please end your posts with 4 tildas "~~~~" so we can follow your posts correctly. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:25, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Playing qualifying means playing the Tournament. On the very end, hennas made in total 7 ATP Points. That should be recognized as notable. I have seen a many players here with page with way worse results compared to Stefan Merunka. I think and really believe, that he deserves a page. The page looks very professionals. Thanks guys Spodeco (talk) 20:38, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I don't believe you. There are not "many players" here with way worse results. I'd be surprised if there are any. Many have played Fed Cup or Davis Cup, or actually played in the main draw of an ATP or WTA event. Those main draws are the major leagues of tennis just like MLB is the major league of baseball. Playing in Challengers is the minor league of tennis. These aren't on television. But even so, if you actually win a minor league Challenger level tournament, notability is implied here at wikipedia. He has not won one. In fact he was only in one and he was wiped out in the first round. The rest of his so called minor league Challenger attempts were only in trying to qualify and he was crushed in all of those. Then there are the minor-minor league ITF events. The lowest of the low in professional tennis. Has he won one of those? Nope. Almost anyone with a few dollars can play and he has never made it out of the round of 16 in even those low level events. This guy classifies as a poor tennis player that has no business having an article here. I can't even believe we are discussing this player. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:04, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your answer. I still think that Stefan Merunka deserves the page here. And I hope, my page ( Stefan Merunka ) will not be deleted and will be given a chance. Best RegardsSpodeco (talk) 21:54, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep, passes WP:NTENNIS. He has also played Bundesliga in Germany in 2014.Highest division - like 1.Bundesliga in Football. Is a notable player — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcoiphone12 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 2 November 2018 (UTC) sockpuppet of Spodeco[reply]

Note The above is a brand new editor and this is the only page they have ever edited. This does not even remotely pass WP:NTENNIS so that's 100% false. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:55, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are players like Thassilo Haun and so on with similar results who have the page. Stefan Merunka should be notable even with his playing in the Bundesliga in Germany which is recognized as highest professional Legaue.Marcoiphone12 (talk) 21:13, 2 November 2018 (UTC) sockpuppet of Spodeco[reply]
Thassilo Haun satisfies WP:NTENNIS because he has played in one career ATP match (His record in doubles is 0–1). Have you read the WP:NTENNIS page? Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thassilo Haun is indeed a fringe player. But his results are night and day better than Stefan Merunka. For one, he actually played in the main draw of the Austrian Open on the ATP tour. He made it to finals in the minor leagues (though he never won a title in his life). Because he played one event the ATP tour he is a fringe player... no doubt about it. But there's fringe and then there's bottom of the barrel poor results like Merunka. And so on. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:51, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The best I could do is suggest argyle or perhaps crew style socks. :-). Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:43, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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