Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Korean rape of Vietnamese women

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. A redirect may be added at editorial discretion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:46, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

South Korean rape of Vietnamese women

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This article appears to be about something either entirely fictional or of doubtful veracity. Its sources are either irrelevant or of doubtful reliability and context, and its author has been indefinitely blocked for tendentious editing in the topic, which puts his intentions in doubt. Dschslava^Δxparlez moi 23:59, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Title is awfully POV, and could probably be merged into the Vietnam War. Author being blocked is a bad sign. -Indy beetle (talk) 01:53, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Uncomfortable about articles about incidents that purportedly happened. Unconvinced that this passes WP:CRIME. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:04, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I know about WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST, but must still make the point that it is pretty certain that far more Vietnamese women were raped by American and Vietnamese men during the Vietnam war than by South Korean men. This article picks out one nationality rather than address the general issue of rape in war, which happens in all wars and by all nationalities. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 20:08, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

comment - Very good point. The subject, and the project, would be better served with an article that takes broader look at the story. Something titled: "Victimization of Vietnamese women during the war" (or something along those lines) and have the article cover attacks of all types, sexual or otherwise, carried out by assailants of all nationalities involved. - ^theWOLFchild 18:06, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is an apparent POV pushing agenda here concerning the ongoing push for compensation for Korean comfort women. So it is an example of the "what about" fallacy. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it does look like that. The "logic" used seems to be that the fact that some Korean men were rapists excuses the previous rape of Korean women. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 23:11, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the topic is described in much more depth at Lai Dai Han. Renata (talk) 20:09, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding that. That article provides a much better, and neutral, explanation of this issue. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 21:25, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Recommend that this article become a redirect to Lai Dai Han. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:41, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Mztourist (talk) 10:19, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Dont censor history. Fustos (talk) 20:22, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion is nothing about censoring history. Renata has pointed out that we have an article about this topic that treats it properly, rather than in the biased way that this article does. We are (I hope) all agreed that rape, including in war, is a very bad thing. Let's not get away from that fact by presenting it as something that is dependent on the nationality of the perpetrators. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 20:11, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Lai Đại Hàn, per the suggestion of Hawkeye7 above. This is a potential search term to that much better article.--Mojo Hand (talk) 21:54, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, or make changes, as per my comment above. - ^theWOLFchild 18:06, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. As written it does not provide any useful info. If there is anything here, that should be merged to other pages. My very best wishes (talk) 21:04, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Looks poorly sourced as a stand alone article, but maybe a merging is suggested to another articles. It may be worth putting in as a section of the Vietnam war article. Huitzilopochtli1990 (talk) 01:50, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.