Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olga Gospodinova

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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:07, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Olga Gospodinova (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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Not notable female ice hockey player, fails WP:HOCKEY, WP:GNG and WP:WOMEN. AaronWikia (talk) 00:48, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. AaronWikia (talk) 00:50, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. AaronWikia (talk) 00:50, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. AaronWikia (talk) 00:50, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. AaronWikia (talk) 00:50, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: She played for the Bulgarian women's team and represented her country at the 2010 Winter Olympics Women's Qualification, but I cannot find the source of any league does she played in. AaronWikia (talk) 22:05, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • AaronWikia Please strike the !vote while retaining the comment. Per WP:AFDLIST "Nominations already imply a recommendation to delete the article, unless the nominator specifically says otherwise, and to avoid confusion nominators should refrain from explicitly indicating this recommendation again in the bulleted list of recommendations." Rlendog (talk) 16:24, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Struck duplicate !vote from nominator; the nomination is considered as your !vote. However, feel free to comment all you'd like. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Professional ice hockey player for the Bulgarian national team, and article is relevant to women's sports and ice hockey. Article definitely needs some serious clean-up and additional references, but there are sources showing her involvement in the Bulgarian team (eg. IIHF) and other sources may need to be translated from English. While I understand you may be referring to WP:NHOCKEY/LA, the guideline does not include women's ice hockey leagues (eg. the NWHL and CWHL are not mentioned). Article does fit WP:ATHLETE in general.Boopitydoopityboop (talk) 13:10, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete. If not for the fact that she plays / played on the national team, she would be failing NSPORT. But she still fails GNG. Maybe some Bulgarian readers could find some in-depth coverage on her - interviews, articles about, etc.? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:32, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete National team players are only notable if they played in a top-level competition, such as the Olympics themselves (not qualification) or the top level at the World Championships (not a lower division). She did neither, so she fails WP:NHOCKEY. That leaves WP:GNG, which she also fails as far as I can tell. I'd be willing to reconsider if someone can provide sources. Smartyllama (talk) 15:12, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails GNG, as a frequent editor of international tournaments I wish I could agree with the comments of Boopitydoopityboop, however they are inaccurate. She is not professional, only the NWHL is fully professional and she is no where near that caliber. Even if WP:NHOCKEY does not apply, GNG or WP:WOMEN would. WP:ATHLETE says "The article must provide reliable sources showing that the subject meets the general notability guideline or the sport specific criteria set forth below". For an amateur athlete who has neither competed in anything remotely close to a high level, or achieved any kind of distinction, I am at a loss as to how she could fit it "in general". In men's play, an amateur athlete who has played at the highest level is presumed to be notable, I don't understand how a women who plays at the lowest level would have the same standing.18abruce (talk) 23:15, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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