Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Odie

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to List of Garfield characters. (Pass the lasagna) Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 12:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Odie

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Fails WP:GNG. Article only contains 3 sources, two of which are primary and not independent of the subject, and any reliable sources that I found online appear to be WP:TRIVIAL mentions. Jurta ^talk/_he/they 14:53, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Comics and animation. Jurta ^talk/_he/they 14:53, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or redirect to a list of Garfield characters. Odie is a major character in the strip and various animationsvand is generally notable. it should not be deleted. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 15:33, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ITSNOTABLE. Without non-trivial mentions in reliable sources, nothing is by our standards of notable. Read Wikipedia:Notability. Industrial Insect (talk) 17:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not going to track down sources but there's absolutely no good reason to delete an article about a major character in a major comic strip. Keep or redirect. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 06:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The "Garfield" entry of Comics Through Time has a paragraph on Odie on the page I could see. The Google preview of "In Search of ‘Dog’: Fictional Media Constructions of Dogs in the Leisure Environment" looks promising, but I have no access. Does anyone else (also possibly via this Research Gate page)? There's also a short paragraph at Every Dog Has Its Day. Totally Tubular '80s Toys has a brief description of the Odie plush toy which sprang from the comic strip. Daranios (talk) 17:36, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Garfield characters. There's something verifiable here worth WP:PRESERVEing, even if they are trivial mentions. The character might not have notability separate from the rest of the characters, but a character list is appropriate here. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:20, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is also a very brief but non-trivial comment also in "Incorporating cartoons in an academic library: Spicing up LibGuides graphically at East Carolina University", and a lot more in this ScreenRant article. I think the found secondary sources together are enough to write a non-stubby article, therefore fullfilling WP:WHYN. WP:ITSNOTABLE is thus no longer an issue. If that's not considered enough by the majority, I would obviously prefer a merge to List of Garfield characters to deletion. Daranios (talk) 11:26, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I put little to no stock in Screen Rant when it comes to establishing notability, being to a large extent a listicle content farm, but it's pretty clear that merging or redirecting would be decent WP:Alternatives to deletion here. TompaDompa (talk) 11:41, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Daranios Can you try to write up something for reception? For now I am supportive of redirecting this because article as written fails WP:GNG but if there's something more, it might be different. At minimum, your efforts would be mergeable, so nothing would be wasted. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:50, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus: so nothing would be wasted - My edits from S.T.A.R. Labs have just been put out of sight through redirecting. You wouldn't perhaps be interested in suitably merging them while I put in new effort here? Will probably take a bit of time. Daranios (talk) 11:30, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Daranios Merged. I have to say I expected a no consensus keep after your edit. We might have gotten it if someone pinged previous voters. Feel free to start a talk page discussion about restoring the article. I am a bit unsure what to do in this case (article has been improved near the end of AfD). You could ask at AN or such, to avoid making it look like you are challenging the close. Another option would be to ask the closer to relist and ping everyone... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Garfield characters per WP:ATD. No prejudice towards it becoming an article again if WP:GNG can be passed and the page rewritten. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:06, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.