Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/O.B. Macaroni

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. - Philippe 01:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

O.B. Macaroni

Contested PROD. Family-run business that does not assert notability. Of the three references provided one is the company website, one only mentions the company in passing and the third doesn't mention it at all. Creator has WP:COI issues, sharing a similar username to the surname of the family who run the business. Roleplayer (talk) 13:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

delete - I can not find any reliable sources that make this company notable. Wrs1864 (talk) 14:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was asked to take a look at this again after Eastmain added some references. I still don't see how these establish the notability of the company. One reference is not about the company at all, but about a contribution the family made and as such would be a WP:COATRACK problem. The other two references do not deal with the company as the subject of the article, they are about the price of flour and tex-mex food and use quotes from the company to support the article. So far, I see nothing, as WP:CORP says, has "depth of coverage of the subject by the source must be considered", rather they are what WP:CORP warns against: trivial or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability. Wrs1864 (talk) 20:29, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I concur and am in agreement with Wrs1864. Nothing I have yet seen added to this article convinces me that I was wrong to nominate it for deletion. -- Roleplayer (talk) 22:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think the second reference is sufficient. It's mostly about the company, and provides a lot of good, encyclopedic information. Zagalejo^^^ 17:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I added a reference. --Eastmain (talk) 16:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 16:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 16:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep It's been around for over a hundred years, and it has received at least a little bit of media attention: [1]. Seems to have an important place in Dallas-Fort Worth culture. Zagalejo^^^ 17:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Wrs1864 is spot on in his coverage of the references here; they are insufficient. Zagalejo's google search yields some obituaries of officers of this company, but nothing (on the first page, at least) about the company itself. WP:CORP is not met. Merenta (talk) 14:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The obituaries do provide some history of OB Macaroni, and suggest that the company is pretty well-known in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Zagalejo^^^ 17:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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