Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neydson da Silva

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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 13:00, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Neydson da Silva

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Only played 1 minute of professional football. The player has now dropped to the Norwegian fourth tier, so him still being an active footballer is not relevant, cf. many previous discussions. Geschichte (talk) 20:16, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:34, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep Subject is 24 years passes WP:FOOTY and is actively playing has played last month in July 2021and is pursuing a career at a lower division and as a goalkeeper has a career at least over a decade if he had retired or been injured it was different but the subject is actively playing see little point deleting it. There is coverage in the Norwegian language 1 ,2 3 ,4 appears to behind a paywall hence cannot see it.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:33, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment SNGs including WP:FOOTY ,WP:NBASKETBALL ,WP:NCRIC exist to provide for the inclusion of certain defined subjects that cannot immediately be shown to pass GNG. An SNG provides for a presumption of notability, not a presumption of non-notability An SNG cannot be used to exclude/delete an article when the subject passes GNG, but the reverse is patently absurd because that would negate the entire reason for the existence of SNGs.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:24, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• The article does not pass GNG and is very far from it. Geschichte (talk) 15:38, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - there is longstanding consensus that scraping by on NFOOTBALL with one or two appearances is insufficient when GNG is failed so comprehensively, as is the case here. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 20:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Article about former Molde youth footballer who made a single appearance in a fully-pro league. There is no online Norwegian-language coverage other than transfer announcements and match reports (no SIGCOV), so it appears to be a comprehensive failure of WP:GNG. Accordingly, the presumption of notability in WP:NFOOTBALL isn't valid. Jogurney (talk) 16:43, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, per Pharaoh of the Wizards. Multiple sources available, passes WP:NFOOTY. NemesisAT (talk) 23:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• They are small local newspapers that in these four cases write about trivial occurences. Far below GNG bar. Geschichte (talk) 15:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  WP:GNG does not exclude local coverage. NemesisAT (talk) 16:35, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• We generally don't think of transfer announcements as anything but routine coverage. The articles linked above are far below the threshold of WP:GNG. Jogurney (talk) 14:14, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment There is coverage in ESPN ,Digisport ,Goal amongst others and other foreign language sources. There are atleast 10 articles about the subject right from 2015 to date. The subject passes WP:NFOOTY and disagree with your claim this is a comprehensive GNG failure , the subject was a teamate of Erling Haaland .Have added references. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:09, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Those articles appear to be superficial coverage of Neydson. The articles are about Haaland, and the author has interviewed Neydson for comments about Haaland. Sorry that's not SIGCOV of Neydson. Jogurney (talk) 13:37, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - we need more than routine coverage like transfer announcements, contract renewals etc. to establish GNG. I completely agree with Jogurney that quotes from the player in relation to another player like Haaland do not establish notability for Neydson as such reporting does not demonstrate significant coverage of Neydson himself Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:30, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep passes NFOOTY and scrapes by GNG in my opinion.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:18, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• I again iterate that his claimed NFOOTBALL pass is made up by one - 1 - minute of play. Geschichte (talk) 18:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - one minute of professional football, in the complete absence of any GNG-compliant sources, does not make someone notable. The idea is patently absurd. It's also in violation of NSPORTS, which clearly states in the FAQ that articles must pass GNG even if they pass the SNG. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:59, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.