Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nancy Rotering
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. The consensus is clear. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 15:32, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
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Non-notable politician. Rotering is the mayor of a smallish city in Illinois (that happens to be a suburb of Chicago) who is running for the House of Representatives. Rotering has not even won the primary election for this seat yet, and the coverage of her campaign is all local. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 03:06, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:33, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:33, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Highland Park (pop. 29K) is not large enough to confer an automatic presumption of notability on its mayors per WP:NPOL, candidates in party primaries do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates — and the volume of reliable source coverage here is purely the type of WP:ROUTINE coverage that a local political figure and/or a local candidate for higher office can always expect to get from the local media, with no indication that it makes her more notable than the norm for those non-notable offices. No prejudice against recreation in November if she wins the seat. Bearcat (talk) 03:08, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. NN small-town politician. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:18, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep House of Representatives candidate (potential nominee, has received endorsements from the Chicago Tribune and Dick Durbin amongst others). Should be kept up at least until the primaries. If she is nominated, I would argue this is enough relevance to justify this subject's article remain. If she is nominated, since the 10th district is a historically competitive district in elections, she could have a good chance of being elected to the House of Representatives, in which case she most certainly would be important enough to have an article. I at least recommend postponing any decision until after the Illinois Democratic Primaries later this month.SecretName101 (talk) 09:47, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Comment @SecretName101: There are a lot of "if"s in that keep proposal. How about this as an alternative: if she is nominated and if her candidacy generates the kind of non-routine significant coverage required, then we can recreate an article about her, but since Wikipedia isn't a crystal ball, we won't know that until it happens. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:51, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- As yet unelected candidates, whether in general elections or in party primaries, are not eligible for Wikipedia articles just for the fact of being a candidate — if they don't already have sufficient notability for other things that they would already have been eligible for an article before becoming a candidate, then they have to win the election (and that's the full general election in November, not the primary.) Wikipedia is not a free PR platform or a repository for unelected candidates' campaign brochures. Bearcat (talk) 15:07, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:POLITICIAN which some editors appear to be oblivious to. AusLondonder (talk) 20:25, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article." I am not sure whether or not she fails to fit this. For instance, as you can see here, there are currently 189 separate results when you search her name on the Chicago Tribune website (inarguably a reliable and well-regarded source). Additionally, in regards to notability outside of candidacy, her involvement/ association with the case between the Village of Highland Park and the National Rifle Association was written about in many well-regarded national publications, including in the New York Times.SecretName101 (talk) 18:39, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Coverage of her campaign is not entirely local. For instance, it has been covered in the Washington Post and the New York Times.SecretName101 (talk) 19:09, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Coverage which happens to mention the candidate's name is not the same thing as coverage about her. Bearcat (talk) 20:14, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete: fails WP:POLITICIAN and WP:GNG. Quis separabit? 02:15, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN. An editor has added significant content to article since it was nominated, but that content is largely sourced to the subject's campaign website. Other coverage comes from the subject's run for office and the candidate's political endorsements. Transient information which is not of encyclopedic value. Politicians establish notability by holding significant office and governing, not by running for office. Being mayor of a small city isn't enough. • Gene93k (talk) 20:57, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as a case of WP:TOOSOON. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:37, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
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