Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murder of Arthur Labinjo-Hughes

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The result was SNOW keep (non-admin closure). Sceptre (talk) 10:09, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Murder of Arthur Labinjo-Hughes

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no evidence of lasting importance.

Written as a tabloid article with emphasis on the lurid details. If it proves notable in the paassage of time , it would need to be completely rewritten. DGG ( talk ) 11:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose- It's been a widely reported on crime in the UK with vast amounts of source material.Llewee (talk) 13:02, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: this is a notable crime. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 13:50, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 14:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 14:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:31, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Notable case, and a review into the events leading up to it has been announced today by the UK government (see this article as an example). This is Paul (talk) 21:24, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The topic does have significant coverage. Earle Bartibus Huxley (talk) 22:17, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As above. Xx78900 (talk) 23:31, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notability is not temporary WP:NTEMP, it reached front papers and was talked about by prime minister boris johnson, see here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-59527850 and the home office has spoken about it and might push a law change because of it.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.26.116.107 (talk) 00:06, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- - if the small number of wikipedians intereste insist on turning this arad of wp into tabloid coverage, and the great majority do not care to engage them, they will get their way. All I ask it that they remember this mutual tolerance when it comes to esoteric topics of serious import. Nomination withdrawn' DGG' ( talk ) 09:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A highly controversial topic in the UK that is creating a lot of discussion at the moment, and possibly will continue to be. Grandtubetrains (talk) 10:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - A very high profile crime that is clearly notable in terms of coverage and there are also signs of impact on policy discussions. Dunarc (talk) 21:50, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The nominator's arguments for deletion are fundamentally flawed per WP:NTEMP. 92.29.169.65 (talk) 00:40, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - it is very difficult to know (at this point) which side of WP:NOTNEWS this falls on. That being said, this story has gained a substantial amount of coverage. Secondly, I would dispute the delete rational, because there is an investigation into his death, which will (as all investigations of this kind do) recommend new safe guarding measures. The investigation into the his death will ensure (most likely) that it does have long-term notability. If the result is delete (as unlikely as it looks now), I would strongly recommend that there is no prejudice against recreating once the investigations has completed when we will have a better idea of notability. SSSB (talk) 12:31, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep – In my view this is the most strong "Keep" of any AFD nomination I have seen for several years. There has been widespread coverage in numerous reliable sources, such as BBC News, ITV News, Sky News and broadsheet newspapers. There have been public reactions to the killing from the Prime Minister Boris Johnson, the Home Office and other senior government ministers such as the Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi. There are future potential policy or law changes when a full national serious case review of the boy's death is published, led by the National Child Safeguarding Practice Review Panel.

I'm sure the nominator posted this AFD with the best of intentions, but this is one of the most high profile crimes in the UK for years. The nominator's userpage indicates he may be an American man and if that's the case he may (through no fault of his own) simply be unaware of what a huge news story this has been in the UK. There were several consecutive days of substantial news coverage on the main BBC TV News bulletins – the killers being found guilty, then the next day given their jail terms and in the following days reports of a serious case review, further reactions, a vigil for the boy and football supporters paying tribute. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 01:36, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.