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The result was delete. SoWhy 09:02, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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A local activist. An article is deliberately overloaded with references. Those I looked into, do not even mention him. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:43, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Dear ArtHistorian1977, ::Please see, the following news paper, journal and television links for the subject's notability. 
1. http://www.jknni.com/2017/03/12/mushtaq-pahalgami-is-a-social-environmentalist-and-trade-union-leader-who-has-made-a-credible-name-for-himself-among-the-youth-in-a-relatively-short-span-of-time-in-pahalgam/
2. http://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-conflict-ridden-kashmir--55615

3. http://www.millenniumpost.in/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-kashmir-161286?NID=324516
4.  https://web.archive.org/web/20160504121401/http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/kashmir/tourism-ministry-honours-mushtaq-pahalgami/184695.html 
5. https://www.upstreamjournal.org/2016/07/le-cachemire/

and

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF2PEYXWAKw

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm1CXYd7W5I

(Also see the complete list of 111 references cited below as 'Full list', which fully meets the core Wikipedia policy values of NPOV, Verfiablity and notability.. and let me know exactly which one do you think dosen't mention the subject Mushtaq Pahalgami/Mushtaq Ahmad/Mushtaq Ahmad Magrey) regards, Samar khurshid (talk) 05:52, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 15:42, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


  • Do not delete Hi all, I had created this page (Mushtaq Pahalgami) in 2014 and it had gradually built it over the years. I was trying to merge it with another page that belongs to the organization that this person represents (Himalayan Welfare Organization, Pahalgam). This article got deleted by mistake and I have thus created this new page with the same name and content. There are certain refernces that appeared in more than 1 sources on the same day, hence the repetition, would be very grateful if the community could kindly approve for publishing. Thanks and Regards, Samar Samar khurshid (talk) 17:36, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment Please take a look at the following news paper, journal and television links for the subject's notability. 
1. http://www.jknni.com/2017/03/12/mushtaq-pahalgami-is-a-social-environmentalist-and-trade-union-leader-who-has-made-a-credible-name-for-himself-among-the-youth-in-a-relatively-short-span-of-time-in-pahalgam/
2. http://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-conflict-ridden-kashmir--55615

3. http://www.millenniumpost.in/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-kashmir-161286?NID=324516

 4.  https://web.archive.org/web/20160504121401/http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/kashmir/tourism-ministry-honours-mushtaq-pahalgami/184695.html 
 5. https://www.upstreamjournal.org/2016/07/le-cachemire/


and

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF2PEYXWAKw

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm1CXYd7W5I

(Also see the complete list of 111 references cited below as 'Full list' which fully meets the core Wikipedia policy values of NPOV, Verifiablity and notability.. and let me know exactly which one do you think dosen't mention the subject Mushtaq Pahalgami/Mushtaq Ahmad/Mushtaq Ahmad Magrey) Samar khurshid (talk) 05:55, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


  • Comment (continuing my argument ..) The references I have used have been well accepted by the wider Wikipedia community since 2014 and most clearly mention the activist's name Mushtaq Ahmad Magrey/Mushtaq Pahalgami. Kindly point out the references that do not. Also, the page was accidentally requested for deletion by me, a single author/contributor, and I have requested that it be restored. I have made that appeal to Wikipedia and I make that appeal here on this forum too. References that are repetitious in fact only highlight how wide even the local protests/interventions/action-programs of this person are covered in the media, hence arguing in favour of notablity. Samar khurshid (talk) 10:06, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The following references clearly establish that the subject Mushtaq Pahlgami is a prominent local activist, who has receives state awards for his social contribution and as can be seen, the news has been carried by a very large number of significant local news papers/news networks.
full list
1. "Tourism Ministry Honours Mushtaq Pahalgami". Greater Kashmir. 2015-03-14. Archived from the original on May 4, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-15.

2. "Exclusive Interview". 2017-07-20. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

3. "Lidder pollution watch: Latrines come up on river bank amid save water body signs". 2017-03-12. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

4. "Paradise lost and regained" (PDF). 2017-03-20. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

5. "Education : Pahalgam Without Degree College". 5dariyanews.com. 2014-10-22. Archived from the original on May 4, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

6. "Social activist donates book bank to GHSS Pahalgam - Early Times Newspaper Jammu Kashmir". Earlytimes.in. 2014-10-08. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

7. "PAHALGAMI DONATED BOOK BANK TO GOVERNMENT HIGHER SECONDARY". Kashmir News Service. 25 May 2015. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

8. "Mushtaq Pahalgami donates books". 2015-12-08. Archived from the original on May 4, 2016. Retrieved 2015-12-12.

9. "Eminent social activist Pahalgami donates books to GHSS" (Mushtaq Pahalgami donates books). 2015-12-07. Retrieved 2015-12-12.

10. "Mushtaq Pahalgami donated book bank to Government Higher Secondary School Aishmuqam". 2015-08-08. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-07.

11."himalayan welfare organization donates books". 2016-06-25. Archived from the original on July 4, 2016. Retrieved 2016-07-06.

12. "HWO donates books to students". www.knskashmir.in. 2016-06-25. Retrieved 2016-07-07.

13. ^ "HWO Organized free medical Camp". 5 Dariya News. 2014-09-23. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-05.


Apart from this there are a total of 111 references that very clearly and strongly support the claims in the write-up, and I'd love to debate significance and notability of the subject, based on each one of these supporting references, one by one. As is the case, Wikipedia rules clearly allow the subject notability and that is what I request the wider editorial community to consider.

The complete list of supporting references is as under,

"Tourism Ministry Honours Mushtaq Pahalgami". Greater Kashmir. 2015-03-14. Archived from the original on May 4, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-15.

Jump up ^ "Exclusive Interview". 2017-07-20. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "Lidder pollution watch: Latrines come up on river bank amid save water body signs". 2017-03-12. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "Paradise lost and regained" (PDF). 2017-03-20. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "Education : Pahalgam Without Degree College". 5dariyanews.com. 2014-10-22. Archived from the original on May 4, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "Social activist donates book bank to GHSS Pahalgam - Early Times Newspaper Jammu Kashmir". Earlytimes.in. 2014-10-08. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "PAHALGAMI DONATED BOOK BANK TO GOVERNMENT HIGHER SECONDARY". Kashmir News Service. 25 May 2015. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Mushtaq Pahalgami donates books". 2015-12-08. Archived from the original on May 4, 2016. Retrieved 2015-12-12.

Jump up ^ "Eminent social activist Pahalgami donates books to GHSS" (Mushtaq Pahalgami donates books). 2015-12-07. Retrieved 2015-12-12.

Jump up ^ "Mushtaq Pahalgami donated book bank to Government Higher Secondary School Aishmuqam". 2015-08-08. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-07.

Jump up ^ "himalayan welfare organization donates books". 2016-06-25. Archived from the original on July 4, 2016. Retrieved 2016-07-06.

Jump up ^ "HWO donates books to students". www.knskashmir.in. 2016-06-25. Retrieved 2016-07-07. ^ Jump up to: a b "Swine Flu Epidemic:Government Evading Responsibility". Kashmir Excelsior. 2015-02-27. Retrieved 2015-03-05.

Jump up ^ "HWO Organized free medical Camp". 5 Dariya News. 2014-09-23. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-05.

^ Jump up to: a b Kashmir, Precious (2014-08-27). "Environment Protection Law". Precious Kashmir. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

^ Jump up to: a b "Save Pahalgam". Precious Kashmir. 2014-08-19. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

^ Jump up to: a b "Threat to environment - Rising Kashmir.". Risingkashmir.com. 2014-06-20. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

^ Jump up to: a b Pahalgami, Mushtaq (2015-01-11). "Felling and smuggling of trees going on in Pahalgam Golf Course". Kashmir Excelsior. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

^ Jump up to: a b Kashmir, Precious (2015-02-03). "Protect wetlands: HWO". Precious Kashmir. Retrieved 2015-03-05.

Jump up ^ "FIRs BE FILED AGAINST THE PHE DEPARTMENT: PAHALGAMI". Kashmir News Service. 2015-04-04. Retrieved 2015-04-15.

Jump up ^ "Sewerage treatment at Pahalgam in shambles, authorities unmoved". Kashmir News Service. 2015-04-04. Retrieved 2015-04-14.

Jump up ^ "WORLD EARTH DAY CELEBRATED AT PAHALGAM". Kashmir News Service. 22 April 2015. Retrieved 2015-04-23.

Jump up ^ "Leakage in water pipes causes soil erosion in Pahalgam forests". Kashmir Reader. 2015-04-04. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Amarnath Yatra and The Garbage Crisis". www.kashmirlife.net. 2014-07-05. Archived from the original on 2016-07-06. Retrieved 2016-07-06.

Jump up ^ "Lal Singh anguished over dumping garbage illegally near water bodies". www.jkmonitor.org/. 2016-06-27. Archived from the original on 2016-07-07. Retrieved 2016-07-08.

Jump up ^ "KNS, HWO organizes seminar on RTI". Kashmir News Service. 15 October 2014. Archived from the original on 2014-12-23. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

^ Jump up to: a b "Activist allege government departments for not obeying RTI act". Kashmirdaily.net. 2015-03-04. Retrieved 2015-03-16.

^ Jump up to: a b c "A Long Arduous Struggle for Rights, Conservation of Environment in Pahalgam". Kashmir Excelsior. 2015-03-18. Retrieved 2015-03-18.

^ Jump up to: a b c "Five years on, authorities fail to revise master plan for Pahalgam". Kashmir Reader. 2015-03-30. Retrieved 2015-04-15.

Jump up ^ "Preserve water bodies to save Kashmir". www.greaterkashmir.com. 17 Feb 2017. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "MUSHTAQ REPRESENTS HWO, PAHALGAM AT GPIW". Kashmir News Service. 24 May 2015. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

^ Jump up to: a b "Himalayan Welfare Organization holds seminar at Hillway Public School". www.knskashmir.com. 2016-06-04. Archived from the original on June 10, 2016. Retrieved 2016-06-12.

^ Jump up to: a b "HWO holds seminar on World Environment Day". www.greaterkashmir.com/. 2016-06-06. Archived from the original on June 6, 2016. Retrieved 2016-06-12.

^ Jump up to: a b "Himalayan Welfare Organization, Pahalgam organized National Seminar at Aishmuqam". www.5dariyanews.com/. 2016-06-04. Archived from the original on June 5, 2016. Retrieved 2016-06-12.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam tourism bodies resist shifting of TRC". 2015-12-10. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-12-12.

Jump up ^ "Tackling the many Challanges of Poverty". 5 Dariya News. 2014-10-20. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-05.

Jump up ^ "Save girl save future". 2015-10-14. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-11-01.

Jump up ^ "HWO Expresses Support, Solidarity to ongoing women rights movements in the world". 2015-03-09. Retrieved 2015-03-09.

Jump up ^ "Countering Dowry in Kashmir: The need for collective action". Kashmir Excelsior. 2015-03-18. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-18.

Jump up ^ "Countering Dowry in Kashmir: The need for Collective effort". The Global Kashmir. 2015-07-09. Retrieved 2015-07-12.

Jump up ^ "Municipal Committee polluting major rivulet in Pahalgam with garbage". Kashmir Reader. 24 April 2015. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "SAVE KOLAHOI, SAVE LIDDER ECO-SYSTEM". www.jkmonitor.org. 2016-06-28. Archived from the original on July 6, 2016. Retrieved 2016-06-07.

Jump up ^ "Single doctor runs Pahalgam Civil Hospital". Earlytimes.in. 2015-05-06. Archived from the original on May 8, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-08.

Jump up ^ "World Famous Tourist Resort Pahalgam Sans Basic Facilities – people Protest". inslive.co.in/. 2015-05-06. Archived from the original on May 8, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-08.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam shuts protest denial share in tourist trade". 2017-05-06. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam shuts for civic rights". 2017-05-07. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam residents protest proposed relocation of TRC to Yanner". kashmirobserver.net. 2015-12-10. Archived from the original on May 8, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-08.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam tourism bodies resist shifting of TRC". Earlytimes.in. 2015-12-10. Archived from the original on May 8, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-08.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam Municipal employees' continue strike". Earlytimes.in. 2015-05-22. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Abolishing Municipal committee Pahalgam is unconstitutional:Mehraj Lone". www.scoopnews.in. 2015-05-22. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Railway track at Pahalgam, Sonamarg anti people: Pahalgami". Kashmir News Service. 2015-05-13. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Government abolishes Pahalgam, Gulmarg Municipal Committees". www.kashmirreader.com/. 2015-05-21. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Municipal employees begin indefinite strike at Pahalgam". www.kashmirdispatch.com/. 2015-05-22. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "We are also citizens of the state but ignored time and again:Mushtaq Pahalgami". 2015-08-19. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-07.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam tourism bodies resist shifting of TRC: Accuse Shah of legalizing illegal Yanad huts". Earlytimes.in. 2015-12-10. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-07.

Jump up ^ "Increasingly security-centric yatra has hit tourism inflow: Pahalgam businessmen". www.kashmirreader.com/. 2016-05-30. Archived from the original on May 30, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-31.

Jump up ^ "Amaranth Yatra: Tent Walas protested at Pahalgam". www.jkmonitor.org. 2016-06-26. Archived from the original on July 6, 2016. Retrieved 2016-06-07.

^ Jump up to: a b "Coallition of Unions Pahalgam demands revised master-plan". Kashmir Excelsior. 2015-03-23. Retrieved 2015-03-24.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam residents urge Mufti to approve MPP". Early Times. 2015-03-23. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-24.

^ Jump up to: a b "HWO Organizes free medical camp". 5 Dariya News. 2014-09-23. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2016-05-07.

Jump up ^ "RTI Happenings: J&K: KNS, HWO organizes seminar on RTI". Rtiindia.org. 2014-10-16. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

^ Jump up to: a b "Omar's free ration announcement irks homeless flood victims - Early Times Newspaper Jammu Kashmir". Earlytimes.in. 2014-10-14. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "Seminar Held at Aishmuqam". www.knskashmir.com. 2015-03-28. Retrieved 2015-03-31.

Jump up ^ "Kashmir Floods: Are we Asking the Right Questions?". Kashmir Reader. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

^ Jump up to: a b "False Promises and Electoral Woes". 5dariyanews.com. 2014-10-25. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "Save forest land in Pahalgam". www.scoopnews.in/. 2016-10-20. Retrieved 2016-10-20.

Jump up ^ "Land Mafia (Mis)using 72-Yr-Old Order To Encroach Forest Land In Pahalgam". www.kashmirlife.net/. 2015-10-09. Retrieved 2016-10-20.

Jump up ^ "Land mafia eyeing prized forestland in Pahalgam". www.earlytimes.in/. 2016-10-02. Retrieved 2016-10-20.

Jump up ^ "Encroachment:Tourist resorts turning into concrete jungles". kashmirobserver.net. 22 June 2016. Retrieved 2016-07-07.

Jump up ^ "Hotel which becomes Pahalgham’s ‘Gair Mumtaz’". www.kashmirleader.net. June 3, 2016. Retrieved 2016-07-07.

Jump up ^ "PDA ruining Baisaran meadow in Pahalgam". Daily Excelsior. 2016-03-27. Retrieved 2016-04-18.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam residents urge CM to approve MPP". 2016-04-11. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2016-04-18.

Jump up ^ "Tourists, people suffer as public toilets defunct at Pahalgam". Kashmir Reader. 31 March 2016. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2016-04-18.

Jump up ^ "Environmental activists demand action against all influential land grabbers". Kashmir Reader. 2016-02-16. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2016-04-18.

Jump up ^ "Seven months after cabinet approval, Pahalgam master plan unimplemented". Kashmir Reader. 2016-04-12. Archived from the original on May 7, 2016. Retrieved 2016-04-18.

^ Jump up to: a b Pehalgami, Mushtaq (2015-01-29). "Government needs to have a strong forest replenishment policy". Kashmir Excelsior. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "PDA foils Ex MLA's land grab attempt in Pahalgam". 2015-12-02. Archived from the original on May 8, 2016. Retrieved 2015-12-12.

Jump up ^ "Hotels Mushroom Along Notified Lidder River Area". kashmirobserver.net. 2016-05-11. Archived from the original on June 28, 2016. Retrieved 2016-06-28.

Jump up ^ "Encroachment: Tourist resorts turning into concrete jungles". www.globalkashmir.net. 2016-06-21. Archived from the original on June 28, 2016. Retrieved 2016-06-28.

Jump up ^ "Government can't bypass High Court, say legal experts". Early Times. 2015-07-07. Archived from the original on May 8, 2016. Retrieved 2015-07-12.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam residents await implementation of revised master plan". 2017-02-05. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "Pahalgam Masterplan and Illegal Constructions:HWO". 2017-01-05. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "The Himalayan Welfare Organization organizes free camp". The Global Kashmir. 2015-07-06. Archived from the original on May 4, 2016. Retrieved 2015-07-12.

Jump up ^ "Lawmakers accuse Pollution Control Board of corruption". Kashmir Reader. 7 June 2015. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Seminar on environment conservation held at Pahalgam". Greater Kashmir. 2015-06-06. Archived from the original on May 8, 2016. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Aalami Mahauliyati din par Pahalgam mein takhreeb". epaper.kashmiruzma.net/. 2015-06-07. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "HWO ORGANIZES SEMINAR ON ENVIRONMENT". www.knskashmir.com. 6 June 2015. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "SEMINAR HELD AT AISHMUQAM". www.knskashmir.com. 28 March 2015. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ Kashmir, Precious (2014-08-19). "Save Pahalgam". Precious Kashmir. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "Warwan, Marwah: A Trek to remember". Precious Kashmir. 2014-08-18. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "Look who’s polluting Pahalgam". Kashmir Reader. 2014-05-24. Retrieved 2014-07-17.

Jump up ^ "Clean our environs - Rising Kashmir. Latest News, Breaking News From Kashmir, Kashmir`s very own English Daily". Risingkashmir.com. 2014-06-20. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "HWO holds seminar on World Environment Day". www.m.greaterkashmir.com. 2016-06-06. Retrieved 2016-07-08.

Jump up ^ "ulb kashmir kick starts segregation of waste at source drive". 2017-06-07. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "Is environment finding a voice in conflict-ridden Kashmir?". www.millenniumpost.in/. 2016-09-13. Archived from the original on Sep 19, 2016. Retrieved 2016-09-19.

Jump up ^ "Is environment finding a voice in conflict-ridden Kashmir". www.downtoearth.org.in/. 2016-09-12. Archived from the original on Sep 19, 2016. Retrieved 2016-09-19.

Jump up ^ "Amid unrest, vandalization of Sonamarg continues unabated". www.earlytimes.in/. 2016-10-16. Retrieved 2016-10-20.

Jump up ^ "Amid unrest, vandalization of Sonamarg continues unabated". www.earlytimes.in/. 2016-10-16. Retrieved 2016-10-20.

Jump up ^ "Encroachment: Tourist resorts turning into concrete jungles". www.jkmonitor.org. 2016-06-21. Retrieved 2016-10-20.

Jump up ^ "Encroachment:Tourist resorts turning into concrete jungles". www.kashmirobserver.net. 2016-06-22. Retrieved 2016-10-20.

Jump up ^ "Encroachment:Tourist resorts turning into concrete jungles". www.scoopnews.in/. 2016-10-18. Retrieved 2016-10-20.

Jump up ^ "himalayan welfare organization holds interactive session on depleted environment". 2017-06-07. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "lifting ban on polythene". 2017-03-12. Retrieved 2017-06-20.

Jump up ^ "Eight years on reconstruction of Pahalgam Club nowhere in sight Lastupdate:- Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:30:00 GMT". Greaterkashmir.com. 2013-07-15. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "PDA demolition notices to Movera hotel owners raises brows - Early Times Newspaper Jammu Kashmir". Earlytimes.in. Archived from the original on May 8, 2016. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "Activist Allege Government Departments for not Obeying RTI Act". Kashmir Excelsior. 2015-03-04. Retrieved 2015-03-05.

Jump up ^ "Move to raise entry fee for Betab valley leaves locals fuming". 2015-06-04. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Adults to pay Rs100, children Rs 50". www.earlytimes.in/. 2015-06-03. Archived from the original on May 8, 2016. Retrieved 2015-06-09.

Jump up ^ "Encroachment: Tourist resorts turning into concrete jungles". jkmonitor.org. 2016-06-21. Archived from the original on June 28, 2016. Retrieved 2016-06-07.

Jump up ^ "Municipal machinery in the state is in a state of Shambles". Kashmir Excelsior. 2015-02-03. Retrieved 2015-03-02.

Jump up ^ "Of Incumbents and Incumbency". Precious Kashmir. 2014-10-29. Retrieved 2015-03-02.


Regards, Samar Samar khurshid (talk) 05:25, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]



Comment:*Dear Athenara, with all due regard, I did not complain that you put the article up for deletion, I said, with all due respect that you acted on my request to delete the article, for which you may please refer to your talk page again. The fact that I do not edit other articles on Wikipedia does not make the page/subject Mushtaq Pahalgami 'promotional' or 'non-notable'. The claims in the article are supported by references from more than 25 different sources and presents a clear case of all three; NPOV, verifiablity and notability.
I am a working professional with little time to get involved with too many pages, but as somebody from the region from which the subject comes, I feel compelled to bring to public record and notice, the enormous efforts at Environmental Conservation, made by the subject and his organization. I must state again that the subject Mushtaq Pahalgami, is a very well recognized activist, whose social and political endeavors have been widely covered by not just local Urdu and English newspapers and news channels but also by respected national portals like Millennium post and Down to earth.
Please see, the following news paper, journal and television links for the subject's notability.
1. http://www.jknni.com/2017/03/12/mushtaq-pahalgami-is-a-social-environmentalist-and-trade-union-leader-who-has-made-a-credible-name-for-himself-among-the-youth-in-a-relatively-short-span-of-time-in-pahalgam/
2. http://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-conflict-ridden-kashmir--55615

3. http://www.millenniumpost.in/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-kashmir-161286?NID=324516
4.  https://web.archive.org/web/20160504121401/http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/kashmir/tourism-ministry-honours-mushtaq-pahalgami/184695.html 

5. https://www.upstreamjournal.org/2016/07/le-cachemire/

and

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF2PEYXWAKw

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm1CXYd7W5I

(Also see the complete list of 111 references cited above which fully meets the core Wikipedia policy values of NPOV, Verifiablity and notability..and let me know exactly which one do you think doesn't mention the subject Mushtaq Pahalgami/Mushtaq Ahmad/Mushtaq Ahmad Magrey)

The argument besides notability, is that the page got deleted after having run for three full years, accidentally when I put up a request for deletion by mistake. I was trying to merge and transfer some content between the deleted page and a related organizational page. The mistake is mine and the subject must not be dealt the punishment of deletion for that! Further, The content and referencing of the page had been acceptable to the wider Wikipedia community for 3 full years, during which the subject's wider social credibility came to be associated with the wiki-page, whose deletion is bound to have serious financial implications for the subject's organization and it's credibility.
It is in this light and spirit that I have humbly and most earnestly urged the Wikipedia central admin and the wider editorial community to either re-consider the deletion of the old page or allow the new page on the subject to be published.
The fact that Pahalgam in Kashmir, form where the subject comes is a far flung area, with very little political representation and access to civic amenities and education, makes it all the more incumbent upon all of us to allow whatever little efforts are being made, to be brought into public notice, for wider appreciation and encouragement. I thus appeal to the collective wisdom and conscience of the Wiki-community to both, stand by the rules of notability and purpose as enshrined in Wikipedia's rules/guiding principles but to also allow a fair and impartial hearing to this case, keeping in mind the right to access to information and representation through information-dissemination .. of every individual citizen and subject in every part of the world, particularly so of those who come from under-developed and backward areas. I would rest my case by saying that rules are meant to make things simpler, not complicated, and as Martin Luther king Junior would have it, 'Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere' .. and if the 5 people arguing here fail to do justice to the cause and subject concerned here today, it shall be a collective failure on our parts to the cause of justice in general, and to Wikipedia's wider commitment to impartiality and truth. Most humbly, Samar

Samar khurshid (talk) 15:10, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and salt - no improvement since the last deletion at AfD. long list of references dont support notability. Editor is a SPA. Flat Out (talk) 02:43, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The assertion is factually incorrect as after the deletion in 2014, due to a lack of supporting references/notability issues, the page was subsequently re-created with a substantial and acceptable list of references on the 11th of July, 2014 and was published and running till 9th of July, 2017, when it got accidentally deleted by the creating editor, that is me. It is in this context that I have re-created the page now and urge and appeal to everybody to re-consider the deletion or allow restoration of the page accidentally deleted by me on the 9th. For notability, please see just these 5 news paper, journal and television links for the subject's social significance and eminence ( besides the complete list of 111 references cited above and let me know exactly which one do you think doesn't mention the subject Mushtaq Pahalgami/Mushtaq Ahmad/Mushtaq Ahmad Magrey).

1. http://www.jknni.com/2017/03/12/mushtaq-pahalgami-is-a-social-environmentalist-and-trade-union-leader-who-has-made-a-credible-name-for-himself-among-the-youth-in-a-relatively-short-span-of-time-in-pahalgam/

2. http://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-conflict-ridden-kashmir--55615

3. http://www.millenniumpost.in/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-kashmir-161286?NID=324516

4. https://web.archive.org/web/20160504121401/http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/kashmir/tourism-ministry-honours-mushtaq-pahalgami/184695.html

5. https://www.upstreamjournal.org/2016/07/le-cachemire/

and

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF2PEYXWAKw

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm1CXYd7W5I

All of which fully meet the core Wikipedia policy values of NPOV, Verifiablity and notability..

Samar khurshid (talk) 06:03, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Comment - I very strongly feel that the fact that the page was fully functional for 3 years and got deleted accidentally by the creator is not being paid attention to in the debate. This is not a case of routine creation/deletion and thus merits and exception. Also, since the page has represented the Subject Mushtaq Pahalgami for as good as 3 years now, a period for which it was considered perfectly notable and acceptable to the wider Wiki-community, deletion on grounds of notability is not fair. Deleting/non-restoring it now will not only cause him undue and unfair loss of social credibility but will also incur him and his organization financial losses that those involved in the decision, shall be responsible for, a matter which we may then be compelled to pursue with Wikipedia's alternative dispute resolution channels.

I have also attached a complete list of 111 references supporting the subject's notability, a list which is not only 'long' as claimed above, but also very varied, including links where the subject was covered by reputed National and International journals and portals. Unfortunately, the list is also not being paid due attention to, only making our case of unfair argument, stronger.

Please see, just these 5 news paper, journal and television links for the subject's notability, verifiablity of the subject and NPOV (reporting from varied sources) before you decide (and let me know exactly which one do you think doesn't mention the subject Mushtaq Pahalgami/Mushtaq Ahmad/Mushtaq Ahmad Magrey).

1. http://www.jknni.com/2017/03/12/mushtaq-pahalgami-is-a-social-environmentalist-and-trade-union-leader-who-has-made-a-credible-name-for-himself-among-the-youth-in-a-relatively-short-span-of-time-in-pahalgam/

2. http://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-conflict-ridden-kashmir--55615

3. http://www.millenniumpost.in/is-environment-finding-a-voice-in-kashmir-161286?NID=324516

4. https://web.archive.org/web/20160504121401/http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/kashmir/tourism-ministry-honours-mushtaq-pahalgami/184695.html

5. https://www.upstreamjournal.org/2016/07/le-cachemire/

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF2PEYXWAKw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm1CXYd7W5I

Samar khurshid (talk) 05:49, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: Wikipedia:No legal threats. – Athaenara 14:34, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Legal threat withdrawn, appeal for just and conscientious intervention made again. Samar khurshid (talk) 16:28, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and stop spamming this page with links. — InsertCleverPhraseHere 13:45, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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