Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mushtaq Pahalgami

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. As so often, all the SPA activity does is to emphasize the real lack of notability for either the person or the organization. Randykitty (talk) 15:08, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mushtaq Pahalgami

If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is not a majority vote, but instead a discussion among Wikipedia contributors. Wikipedia has policies and guidelines regarding the encyclopedia's content, and consensus (agreement) is gauged based on the merits of the arguments, not by counting votes.

However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to assume good faith on the part of others and to sign your posts on this page by adding ~~~~ at the end.

Note: Comments may be tagged as follows: suspected single-purpose accounts: {{subst:spa|username}}; suspected canvassed users: {{subst:canvassed|username}}; accounts blocked for sockpuppetry: {{subst:csm|username}} or {{subst:csp|username}}.

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

appears non-notable. Most references given appear to only mention them in passing, or are self-published or blogs. --Mdann52talk to me! 07:42, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

delete Appears to not be notable. The regional paper is in English and availble online, and a Google search reveals several mentions, all of which are merely quotes on various events. Can't find anything that gives signifigant coverage.

Revent^talk 07:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

notable External Links/Redirects

full list

List of people from Jammu and Kashmir

http://www.risingkashmir.com/clean-our-environs/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahman ganai (talk • contribs) 03:57, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2012/mar/31/environment-hazard-40.asp

http://www.kashmirtimes.in/newsdet.aspx?q=5661

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Manzoor Deen (talk • contribs) 10:28, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:RS, and WP:ROUTINE, then cite some reliable sources instead of the unreliable ones you have provided above. --Mdann52talk to me! 07:47, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Notable, Please refer to List of people from Jammu and Kashmir

Do not Delete; As for coverage by national dailies, anybody familiar with the politics of J&K would know News from the valley hardly finds mention in the mainstream media here; not even the blatant everyday human rights violations, forget RTI and Environment! Th page is important to document whatever efforts local civil society organizations are making for development despite the turmoil and the general political background and context. There are sources outside print that can verify the information given in the article though; Journalists from local newspapers, covering Pahalgam can be contacted for the same. Samar khurshid (talk) 09:14, 17 July 2014 (UTC) Samar[reply]

It should stay this is very needful for information about the environment, Right to information act and Public Service Guarantee Act .all information is available on above mentioned links or www.hwopahalgam.tk

ghulam nabi magray — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.89.54.114 (talk) 11:01, 17 July 2014 (UTC) — 59.89.54.114 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Do not Delete, The following are the details of coverage of the individual's and his organization's activities by local newspapers; unfortunately these papers do not maintain an e-version archive but their websites are being mentioned alongwith details of the write-ups so that the newspaper can be contacted for verification.

1. 'Pahalgam mein nasha aur tambaku mukhalif seminar munaqqad hua', Srinagar, 05th June, 2013, in Srinagar Times, ref. www.srinagartimes.net 2. 'Tons of garbage being dumped on banks of Tulyan Canal', Kashmir Times, Srinagar, 17th of May, 2013, ref. www.kashmirtimes.com 3. 'Pahalgam tent union ka aham ijlaas munaqqad', 27th May, 2014, Srinagar Times, ref. www.srinagartimes.net 4. 'Pahalgam ke ghodebanon ko waajib ul qadar raqam wa guzar kee jaye', 31-05-2010, Srinagar Times, ref. www.srinagartimes.net 5. 'glacieron ke phighalne se mahaulyati tawazun bigadne ka imkaan', 15-03-2010, Kashmir News Service, ref. http://www.knskashmir.com/ 6. 'Pahalgam ke wildlife zone mein ghair-qanooni taamiraat', 08-02-10, Daily Aftab, Srinagar 7. 'Pahalgam mein rihaish-pazeer aabaadi ke liye master-plan 2004-05 dard-e sar', 11-03-10, Kashmir News Service, ref. http://www.knskashmir.com/ 8. 'Pahalgam mein Higher-Secondary ko degree college ka darja dene ke khilaf logon ne kiya muzahira', Ittelaat, Kashmir, ref. [website taken down, newspaper banned] 9. 'Pahalgam mein Master-plan ki khilaafwarzi kar ke mukhtalif maqaamaat par hotelon ki taameer tezi se jaari', 02/01/10, Hind Samachar, ref. www.hindsamachar.in/ 10. 'Pahalgam mein hukumat ki jaanib se taamirati kamon aur rihaishi makaanat ki marammat par mukammal pabandi', 12/01/11, Ittelaat, Kashmir, ref. [website taken down, newspaper banned] Simin akhter (talk) 12:52, 17 July 2014 (UTC)Simin Akhter[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Retain, mushtaq pahalgami lives in jammu and kashmir, s Pahalgam region, spends all time with needy and poor of paha area, he work for preservation of kashmir, s famous and biggest glaceier Kolhai, he work for preservation of Himalayas crystal clear lake especially for sheshnag lake,harbagwani lake,tarsar lake, marsar lake, sunsar lake, munwarsar lake,etc.he deserve for a part this wikipedia page, Anil Pahalgam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anil Pahalgam (talk • contribs) 15:25, 17 July 2014 (UTC) struck duplicate !vote --Mdann52talk to me! 07:47, 18 July 2014 (UTC) — Anil Pahalgam (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Retain Just added more local language references. Kindly consider. Simin Akhter Simin akhter (talk) 17:24, 17 July 2014 (UTC) struck duplicate !vote --Mdann52talk to me! 07:47, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Retain The Urdu language sources look credible. I'd request other editors to reconsider their opinion in the light of the cited references by Simin Akhter above, references 3 to 10. Asrar aalam (talk) 17:46, 17 July 2014 (UTC) — [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. --Mdann52talk to me! 07:47, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as Mushtaq seems to only be notable through activities of the organization and lacks an independent claim of notability outside that scope. Looking through the sources presented on the article talk page, those appear to simply quote members of the HWO as story sources, thus failing WP:ORGDEPTH, precluding moving the article and changing it's focus at this stage. Dolescum (talk) 20:02, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*Do not Delete, kindly refer to the urdu language references for the individual's contribution in and beyond his organization's activities.Asrar aalam (talk) 06:09, 18 July 2014 (UTC)striking duplicate !vote. --Mdann52talk to me! 07:47, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Revent. Nothing I find (in English anyways) points to anything making this pass WP:BIO ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ 話 ♪} ߷ _{♀ 投稿 ♀} 22:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do not Delete, There is strong evidence it should be kept here, one recent proof is this article for preserving enveronment in himalayas region link are mentioned below, http://www.risingkashmir.com/threat-to-environment/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wani yousuf (talk • contribs) 02:09, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Having had a 'letter to the editor' published on a website it not evidence of notability. Revent^talk 00:17, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 10:52, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. None of the refs provided here or in the article are RS, the links to news websites are exclusively letters to the editor and not articles--– sampi ^{(talk•contrib•email)} 10:03, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Delete refer to urdu language sources, urdu language is a official language of jammu and kashmir state — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fayaz pahalgam (talk • contribs) 15:47, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Deserving for stay page http://www.risingkashmir.com/clean-our-environs/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahman ganai (talk • contribs) 03:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC) — Rahman ganai (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Having had a 'letter to the editor' published is not evidence of notability. Revent^talk 00:18, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is enough evidences kindly be keep above said page permanent there ,and already i seen three websites and more and more links is ready for reference.is it deserving for staying here.

Delete This article is really about the Himalayan Welfare Organization, not about Mushtaq Pahalgami, although he founded it and appears to be its prime mover. Were there more coverage of the organization, I would suggest renaming/rewriting, but the organization currently fails WP:GNG for lack of significant coverage. It does not matter how hard someone works, or how noble the cause, notability is granted by in depth coverage in independent, reliable publications. That kind of coverage is not found here in letters to the editor, press releases, and articles about the environmental problems. --Bejnar (talk) 04:22, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.