Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of European Cup and UEFA Champions League winning players
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Star Mississippi 02:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
List of European Cup and UEFA Champions League winning players
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List cruft that could be better served as a category. Its sources also appear to not meet WP:RS. Seasider53 (talk) 13:01, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Lists of people, Football, and Europe. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:41, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:59, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, pure LISTCRUFT. GiantSnowman 14:40, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I neither see this as list craft, nor do I see a problem with the limited sources in the article, if anything it's the opposite, the article could do with a lot more sourcing. Categories are more hidden in wikipedia structure, people could find this list easier, I feel there is a lot of validity here. Govvy (talk) 09:19, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, LISTCRUFT and total overkill. Kante4 (talk) 09:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Nehme1499 15:58, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep we have similar list like: List of Premier League winning players. we can have article for this important cup too.(because category is not enough. refs must be improved (squad of each team is clear in every season).--Miha2020 (talk) 16:46, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Reasons for suggesting a deletion of the article are quite shaky. There are Wikipedia articles on Champions League topic. How this article cannot be suitable for that?NextEditor123 (talk) 18:28, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Which of the reasons are “shaky”? Also, WP:OTHER, which was mentioned in the WPF thread but some people are ignoring. Seasider53 (talk) 20:51, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
KeepWe should keep this article active as it contains tons of information about all winning players of the biggest club football tournament in Europe with references and notes. At least we could find a way to improve the article instead of discarding this topic entirely from Wikipedia. NextEditor123 (talk) 17:06, 20 June 2022 (UTC)DeleteDon't know why you're including your choice again, but I suppose I can follow suit. You didn't answer my question. Seasider53 (talk) 20:01, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Which of the reasons are “shaky”? Also, WP:OTHER, which was mentioned in the WPF thread but some people are ignoring. Seasider53 (talk) 20:51, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep The list shows information that the category would not show. It provides quick access to statistics and information about the winners of the competition, which would otherwise take too long to obtain. Piotr Bart (talk) 13:35, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with nominator. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 15:12, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Questionable sourcing. I'm also not sure about the criteria to warrant inclusion: is it everyone in the squad? Everyone who has played a match in competition? Everyone who played the final? It seems to start with the first and, as one scrolls down, shift to the last criterion. Regarding similar lists, WP:OTHER is not an argument. The arguments to keep boil down to showing useful information, in this case, statistics; Wikipedia, though, is not a WP:NOTDATABASE. I'm concerned that further research on the matter, particularly on the topics of inclusion vis-à-vis older squads, will veer into WP:SYNTHESIS territory. As it stands, this all seems like WP:LISTCRUFT to me. Iseult Δx parlez moi 18:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Based on comparison between datas and sources, it seems that the list includes everyone who has played a match in competition. WP:SYNTHESIS is a combining material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any source which I don't see that case in the article. NextEditor123 (talk) 18:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think I was clear in my reasoning; my apologies. My first point is that it's not clear what the list is about. The latter point is that given this, I have concerns that the list will violate WP:SYNTHESIS, not that it already has, but also not that it has not already. Iseult Δx parlez moi 22:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Based on comparison between datas and sources, it seems that the list includes everyone who has played a match in competition. WP:SYNTHESIS is a combining material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any source which I don't see that case in the article. NextEditor123 (talk) 18:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: List without reliave sources which not explain the UEFA's criteria for recognise any footballer as competition's winner.--Dantetheperuvian (talk) 16:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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