Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Li Yunze

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Li Yunze

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Too soon article WP:TOOSOON, doesn't meet any WP:NBAD Stvbastian (talk) 22:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Stvbastian (talk) 22:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:10, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User is clearly not seeing the achievements of the player, having Medal in the grade 1 bwf tournament(BWF World Junior Championships), still nominating it for deletion. Maybe some sort of personal distress? Li Yunze have multiple medals as you see. Zoglophie (talk) 06:09, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Stvbastian: WP:Notability (sports) says an athlete is notable if they are a "Medalist at tournaments of the BWF Grand Prix Gold and Grand Prix." Which all your nominations seem to be. Is there anywhere that says people who medal in junior tournaments don't qualify for notability under the same standard? --Adamant1 (talk) 08:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adamant1 Unfortunately, there is no statement in WP:NBAD that said players who only medal in the junior tournament are qualify for notability. BWF Grand Prix Gold and Grand Prix is a senior tournament and different with junior tournament. Stvbastian (talk) 12:27, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete long standing consensus is that we do not treat junior tournaments as notability grandting in the same way as senior tournamesnts.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Johnpacklambert, you are actually on the same way, but I want to tell you, that not every player necessarily has medals in highest junior tournaments as the nominated players have. Some of them shine in junior level & have multiple accomplishments to show. Not everybody medals in World Junior Championship which you may consider 'weak' or 'little' in inclusion criteria, but is a Grade 1 Bwf tournament. This is verifiable, I wish you will confirm it. Thank you. Zoglophie (talk) 02:18, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Zoglophie: While I generally agree with you that just because they won junior medals doesn't mean they are not notable, your repeated personal attacks everywhere of the nominator and anyone that disagrees with you isn't helpful and it would be good if you stopped with it. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Adamant1:, I really don't want to say such words to anybody here, and I'm trying my best to keep cool here, but you know, when somebody is keeping over-attention towards you and just interrupting you everytime, in pretty much every edit, it is quite somewhere frustrating. This has affected my free editing very much, while I generally agree to them everywhere even after their bit rude words. I have tried to maintain good mutual understanding with them and this is good for both the users. We all are here to edit Wikipedia as best we can do it, and mistakes are very common which doesn't mean you have to pinch user pretty much every where & every time.

As a humanly nature, Some anger is natural but even there i remain ethical. But this is not the matter of further discussion, here the talk is about Articles and i feel we should keep them as .....(reasons) i stated above. I'm glad you understood the reasons of keeping them, Please cooperate if you think I'm right somewhere! Thanks.Zoglophie (talk) 10:03, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Redirect to 2019 BWF World Junior Championships . This article does not meet wikipedia standards for WP:NBAD. Though the standard does mention that notability can be achieved by completion in the quarter-finals at a tournament of the highest level outside of the Olympics or World Championships, the BWF World Junior Championships does not qualify. It is documented that notable athletes who could qualify for the Junior Championships at age 18 jump to the actual World Championships if they are good enough such as Ratchanok Intanon. Thus the Junior World Championships are not the highest level for these athletes and therefore do not meet WP:NBAD. Bioforce12 (talk) 23:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

However it should be mentioned that if the BWF World Junior Championships is recognized as notable enough to have a Wikipedia page, shouldn't the athletes that place in it has access as well? Bioforce12 (talk) 23:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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