Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lachante Paul

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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 18:12, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Paul's 17 minutes against Lionesses in the cup don't count towards WP:NFOOTBALL nor do any of the Leicester appearances. Nothing logged for national team either.

She gets routine coverage from Leicester's own website and very occasional passing mentions elsewhere. I can't see any WP:SIGCOV from any sources independent from Paul so I can't see how this article meets WP:GNG, sorry. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 18:01, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Per above, not enough for both GNG and NFOOTBALL. Grailcombs (talk) 19:10, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete does not at this time meet GNG. He is 18 so that could change, but we wait until it does to create articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:08, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This my first created article on wikipedia, so I apologise for the unfamiliarity with all the rules. After reading the policies the article did not meet, I would understand if the article was deleted. However, this is a young, promising, female footballer who has played well over the last season and a half. Lachante Paul's team, Leicester City Women, are on the brink of promotion which would see them enter a professional league. If she enters a professional leauge, which appears to be imminent, coverage will increase and her name will potentially be named more frequently, depending on her performances. I also believe the four policies listed under 'when to use the deletion process ^[1] are met within the article. ^{[2] [3]} Markjbodey (talk) 22:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As John Pack Lambert says above, it's probably best to wait until Paul meets a Wikipedia guideline before recreating. If Leicester do get promoted and if Paul does play in the WSL next season, then this can definitely be created. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, see WP:CRYSTAL. We can't absolutely guarantee that Paul will debut in the WSL next season and it's not our place to make such predictions in an encyclopaedia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:18, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, I am not claiming Wikipedia to be a crystal ball, at no point in the article have I predicted anything. Whether or not she does make her debut in the WSL, her performances during the 2019/20 season, as well as this season (which have not been added to the wikipedia page due to the frequent changes) are certainly more than just notable. This page was created for future expansion as her career progresses, and the article meets all of the other criteria necessary. We shouldn't be so quick to delete articles covering women in football as it suggests their achievements aren't as significant as their male counterparts. In writing this article, my aim was to expand our knowledge of women footballers so that people who are interested can learn more. One article will not change this, but keeping these pages up is certainly a good starting point. Markjbodey (talk) 11:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the signficant coverage of her? Taking the coverage from her own club Leicester out of the equation, there's nothing really more than a couple of transfer announcements and some passing mentions in match reports. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:41, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, female footballers can be notable even if playing outside of professional leagues but they need to have significant in-depth coverage from independent sources. For examples, see Sammie Wood and Sara Mérida. I'm not seeing that level of coverage for Paul. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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