Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jordan Scott
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The result was keep and rename, which I will do. This is a challenging one. We really need Berlin Nobody for a crystal clear Keep, but the sourcing BusterD found is what keeps from being a no consensus. There is no possible outcome where this is deleted. Star Mississippi 02:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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doesn’t seem to meet WP:GNG, directed one feature length film but has little to no reliable sources about her. Known more for being Ridley Scott’s daughter LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:32, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:32, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete sourcing is not even close to showing a pass of GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:20, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment There seems to be a few articles about her from 2009 when her debut film was released, for example "Ridley Scott's daughter takes the family firm in a new direction" in The Times (Saturday, Oct. 24, 2009) and "Gladiator in a ring of her own" (Friday, Nov. 27, 2009), also "LIKE FATHER, LIKE DAUGHTER: RIDLEY'S GIRL PREMIERES NEW MOVIE" in the Dublin Evening Herald (26 October 2009). She's due to direct "Berlin Nobody" which seems to return quite a few hits on Google News. Not sure if it's enough though Piecesofuk (talk) 18:23, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relist in light of new sources and upcoming film.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:35, 3 July 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:37, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
- Rename + weak keep based on good faith. A really common name in collision with Jordan Scott (poet); other potentially/kinda/sorta-notable examples include a Jamaican triple-jumper ([1],[2]), a Chicago artist/photographer, a Utah Tech Trailblazers football defensive back, etc... first thing should be to move this page to qualified title Jordan Scott (filmmaker); creation of disambiguation page will depend on keep/delete outcome. As for notability: none inherited from her father. Existing mentions in Wikipedia: after excluding {{Ridley Scott}} using PetScan we get about two dozen incoming links mainly related to existing filmography. Her single feature-length release did not make enough impact to single-handedly confer notability on its own; upcoming film is WP:TOOSOON to tell, so far looks like we have mainly casting news with shooting reportedly to begin in September. Initial instinct is draftify, but CSD G13 deletion is a concern; I do wish we could stipulate Berlin Nobody release (or cancellation) + 6mths. I don't have access to the three newspaper articles mentioned above, so it'll be a good faith upgrade to keep based on just the article titles we've been given. — 2406:3003:2077:1E60:C998:20C6:8CCF:5730 (talk) 14:55, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —ScottyWong— 23:05, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. I've just added three reliable sources directly detailing her work as a "fledgling film director" from her 2005 Prada commercial film, one from the New York Times and one from the print version of The Independent (which I've clipped from Newspapers.com). The Independent's story directly details the subject for the entire article and gives substantial information of the collaboration with her father on their other shared projects. Put these few together with the material User:Piecesofuk brought to our attention and this easily meets GNG, possessing significant coverage in diverse reliable sources independent of the subject. I'm seeing several more where that came from. This isn't close. BusterD (talk) 21:08, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Added another three page feature article from ES Magazine. This page and The Independent by themselves meet GNG. BusterD (talk) 15:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. If kept, I'd like to endorse the suggestion made above that this page be moved to Jordan Scott (filmmaker) and appropriate da links be applied to the tops of both works. No clear primary topic. BusterD (talk) 21:15, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
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