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Hi, Piecesofuk! You and I participated in an AfD discussion a few months ago, during which I saw that you have access to the British Newspaper Archive. I'm in an AfD discussion right now (for the French 1960s singer Ronnie Bird). I was wondering if I could trouble you to look for coverage of Bird, especially in his most active 1960s period, in the British Newspaper Archive. I think there may have been a significant amount of coverage of him in the UK (and probably more than I've found in the US) as he sang in English quite a lot. If you can't, no worries, I just thought I'd ask because I don't know anyone else who has access to it. Thanks and have a great day! --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:47, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DiamondRemley39, I've found nothing in the British Newspaper Archive, there are matches for a cricketer and a footballer but not a singer. I did a search on the British Library's catalogue and only came up with one match, a 2012 compilation album [1]http://explore.bl.uk/BLVU1:LSCOP-ALL:BLLSA7564175 from that I would guess he didn't release anything in the UK in the 1960s. The only other match I found was a couple of videos on Europeana. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Piecesofuk (talk) 16:33, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for looking so quickly. Anything is helpful--even finding nothing in the British Newspaper Archive is good to know. I'll look into the other things you've found. I so appreciate your looking. Would you mind if I contact you again to investigate things like this that are beyond my reach as they come up? DiamondRemley39 (talk) 16:41, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

yes that's okay, my British Newspaper Archive subscription expires soon so unless I get a decent discount on the renewal I won't have access to that (apart from at the library) Piecesofuk (talk) 17:00, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks!! DiamondRemley39 (talk) 17:20, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I just created an article for actor/writer/possibly film pioneer(?) Lewis Sealy (sometimes spelled Sealey or Sealee). It's almost a stub as of right now. There's plenty more about him out there, but I'm overwhelmed at everything I'm seeing in newspapers.com because he was in so many different productions. I'm wondering if British Newspaper Archive would have more coverage of him since so much of his career was over there. If you feel like looking and letting me know anything interesting you find or adding it to the article, that'd be swell. Peace! DiamondRemley39 (talk) 22:39, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I noticed he had a Wikidata item Lewis Sealy (Q73983160) so I've linked that to his Wikipedia page, it has a link to a useful biography at [2]https://www.victorian-cinema.net/sealy, I've also included a link to his FamilySearch record on Wikidata (worth registering an account there if you haven't already). I'll have a look through the British Newspaper Archive to see if I can find anything else notable about him. Have you used Chronicling America's newspaper archive? Piecesofuk (talk) 08:23, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have access to the Era on newspaper.com, a good search would be "lewis sealy cinematoscope". I found this through this book The Beginnings Of The Cinema In England,1894-1901: Volume 2: 1897 on Google books Piecesofuk (talk) 09:20, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks for your detailed and thorough contribution to the Lt-Col Stansfeld AfD. In particular, you made good use of the BNA to find coverage of the subject. I'd like to get access to this too but the subscription seems expensive for occasional use. It appears that access is free at the British Library but that one has to go to St Pancras to do this. They are open again now and I like the place but it's still inconvenient to make a journey just to make such a search.

So, to get the benefit of your experience, please advise how you access the BNA. Do you have access at a library, pay for a subscription or what?

Andrew🐉(talk) 10:46, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andrew, I have an annual paid subscription. They have recently released about a million pages for free if you register, unfortunately none of those relate to Stansfeld, I think the free pages are from the 19th century. It's worth checking with your local library as a number do offer unlimited access to the BNA within the library, I've used that method in the past. Piecesofuk (talk) 11:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. I often work on antiquarian topics so I'll try registering and see how it goes. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:54, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A few more things: Find My Past has access to all the BNA newspapers, so if your local library has a subscription to that if might be worth checking out, at the moment, due to the pandemic, I can I access all the newspapers for free at home via a library login, not sure how long that will last though. Also have you tried applying for access to Newspapers.com and NewspaperARCHIVE.com via the Wikipedia Library https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/users/my_library/ they do have quite a few British newspapers. Piecesofuk (talk) 12:14, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Some info, which may allow you to restore the article: Gerald Wilkinson attended Manchester School of Art and was a well-known artist, illustrator, designer, photographer, and author. After his death at the age of 68, the Reading Evening Post wrote "His work as a painter was much appreciated and his paintings had been exhibited, sold and were sought after".^[1] [He and one of his sons died in a car-crash on 10 March 1988, on the A413 near Culham, Oxfordshire. The Reading Evening Post reported that the Wilkinsons were hit by an oncoming car that was overtaking unsafely.] The article should certainly be restored. I'm sure it would be improved, now we know it was under threat. The timeline for deletion was too short. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.39.159.73 (talk) 12:03, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the information. I'm planning to revisit the page some time in the future. I don't think there was enough in the original article to bother with restoring it. It needs more secondary sources, but they're difficult to track down for when he was active in the 1970s. Surprised to learn that he had paintings exhibited, I thought he was more of a book illustrator. Piecesofuk (talk) 16:08, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Gerald Wilkinson (1926-1988)^[2][1] was an illustrator, art historian, naturalist, photographer, artist and book-designer, best known for four authoritative^[3] works on J. M. W. Turner's sketches, and for his books on British trees and woodlands. Though there had been many sections on the genus Ulmus in books and journals, Wilkinson's monograph, Epitaph for the Elm (1978), written for the general reader and illustrated in colour, was the first such book to be published in the UK.^[4] Life and work Gerald Sedgewick Wilkinson was born in Wigan in 192- (?) and attended Wigan Grammar School and Manchester School of Art, where he studied lettering (a subject on which he later lectured)^[5] and took a Diploma in Art, specialising in Mural Painting (1947).^[2][6] In the 1950s his illustrations were reproduced in Arts Council posters and in the The Penrose Annual (1955). He turned to research on Turner's sketches, publishing studies in 1972, 1974, 1975 and 1981; these were widely reviewed and well received by art historians.^[7][8][9] Wilkinson, however, later described himself (1978) as "interested above all in landscape",^[3] an interest that led to his second reputation, as a specialist in British trees and woodlands, a subject he treated in a number of books. These included a much-praised^[3] guide to the trees of Britain, Trees in the Wild (1975), and a widely-noticed monograph on elms, elegiac in tone, published at the height of the Dutch elm disease pandemic, Epitaph for the Elm (1978), which ranged over art, literature, history, folklore and botany, and contained his own illustrations and photographs (one of the latter appeared on the cover of the Sunday Times Magazine, 14 May 1978). "He writes with a botanist's knowledge and a painter's feel for shape and pattern in the landscape, and with a woodworker's knowledge of timbers," his publisher noted.^[5] Wilkinson also contributed photographs and articles to The AA Book of the Countryside (1973),^[10] travelling widely in the British Isles researching and collecting material for these works.^[3] His region-by-region guides to British Woodland Walks were published by the Ordnance Survey in the 1980s. His work attracted wider interest, Woodland Walks in Britain also being published in the US.^[11] Wilkinson was a Fellow of the Linnean Society of London.^[5] He married the illustrator Jill Gardiner. They had two children and lived in Oxfordshire. After his death in a road accident a near Culham on 10 March 1988, the Reading Evening Post wrote, "His work as a painter was much appreciated and his paintings had been exhibited, sold and were sought after.".^[1] Publications Art history

• Turner's Early Sketchbooks: Drawings in England, Wales and Scotland from 1789 to 1802; Selected, with notes (1972)
• Turner Sketches, 1789-1820 : Genius of the Romantic (UK) [Romantic Genius (US)] (1974)
• Turner's Colour Sketches, 1820-34 (1975)
• Turner on landscape: The Liber Studiorum (1982)

Natural history

• Trees in the wild, and other trees and shrubs (1975)
• Epitaph for the Elm (1978)
• A History of Britain's Trees (1981)
• Woodland Walks in Britain (1985)
• Ordnance Survey Woodland Walks (1985)
• Ordnance Survey Woodland Walks: Wales and the Marches (1986)
• Ordnance Survey Woodland Walks: Scotland (1986)
• Ordnance Survey Woodland Walks in the North of England (1986)
• Ordnance Survey Woodland Walks in South-West England (1986)
• Ordnance Survey Woodland Walks: East Central England (1986)
• Ordnance Survey Woodland Walks: Central England (1986)
• Ordnance Survey Woodland Walks in South East England (1986)

Category:English art historians Category:English naturalists Category:English botanists Category:Fellows of the Linnean Society of London Category:Road incident deaths in the United Kingdom

Birth confirmed 1926 (England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007). Sandbox opened:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tom_elm/sandbox/Gerald_Wilkinson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.39.159.73 (talk) 14:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's looking pretty good, although I think there is a problem with relying on book dust jackets as I don't think they're regarded as independent and I wish there were more newspaper sources from the time he was active as an author in the late 70s and early 80s. Are you planning to put this live soon? Piecesofuk (talk) 16:16, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Piecesofuk,

You seem to have resumed claiming in deletion discussions that Who's Who confers notability, despite previously engaging with me in this discussion after I pointed out that the editing community has unanimously disagreed with you, and classified the source as unreliable in a 2022 well-attended RfC on a major noticeboard. AfD is not the place to contest a consensus established one level above, WP:RSN is. I ask that you please stop repeating that Who's Who can be used to ascertain notability, as that is clearly not the community consensus - notability can only be established by significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources (see WP:GNG). Feel free to start a new discussion at WP:RSN on the topic, but stop wasting your time and the time of other contributors at AfD with that source. Thank you. Pilaz (talk) 10:02, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you let me know where I've done this? These are my latest contributions Special:Contributions/Piecesofuk Piecesofuk (talk) 10:26, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, it's regarded as a self-published, unreliable source and should not be used. [3] can also be helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 00:52, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

His claim is false which you can you check by my contribution history Piecesofuk (talk) 05:49, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Checked the dates, and I was wrong: I made you aware of the RfC on 11 March, but the comment that I thought you had made that incorrectly assumed ignored the RfC was made on 9 March. Please accept my apologies. Striking my comment. Pilaz (talk) 07:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Piecesofuk (talk) 07:49, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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