Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hum3D

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:41, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Falls short of meeting WP:NCORP--There's some trivial coverage citing it for its 3D models, and some borderline coverage (a bit PRish) of its Car Render Challenge, which currently has a stronger claim to meeting notability guidelines than the company, but basically nothing analyzing the company itself. I was not able to find additional coverage searching online, although editors better-versed in Ukrainian may have more luck. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation, Companies, and Ukraine. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Good afternoon dear @Rosguill. Thank you so much for the clarification.

  I am in the process of improving the article. All your requirements will be taken into account. Have a nice day with respect Kuba Ali (talk) 10:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I see 19 changes in the last 5 days, which is good. I would encourage you to keep working on it. But the article still looks to me like two things: a commercial for the company and a description of the competition. Perhaps it might be more productive to consider changing the focus of the article, so that it is primarily about the competition, maybe focusing on the fact that it is an annual competition and with comments about the company limited to those that are necessary to broaden the understanding of the competition. For example, with some digging, you might be able to find the winners for each of the eight years that the competition was held. Radzy0 (talk) 01:20, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please consider the many recent edits to this article since nomination.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:22, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• The three new sources added to the article since this was opened are [1], [2], [3]. The first article is a half-step in the right direction: it's actual coverage of the company itself, but it's un-bylined from a source I'm not familiar with and that doesn't appear to have been discussed on Wikipedia yet, and it doesn't provide any independent analysis beyond a basic description of the company. If we're being particularly charitable, it could count as our first source towards meeting notability guidelines, but its companions fall short. The second piece is blatantly not independent, and the third is yet another press release about the design competition. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 22:49, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Good day, thank you for your feedback. I've changed the CgSociety source to the 80.lv - both are authority websites on the 3d modeling market and they do not publish any information without fact-checking by an editor. Thinkinetic.blog is a blog of the software development company (official website) from Spain, that make popular 3d products - so I decided that it can prove the information. Also, Hum3D made a press release about furniture models only in the Ukrainian language, and there are some news websites had written about it. I have chose Apostrophe.ua as the most known (this news can be important to Hum3D because they known for a long time as car 3d modellers and right now developing also furniture). Leksunski (talk) 07:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. There's a lot of buzz about this company, but not a lot of the type of significant independent journalistic coverage we seek in WP:ORGCRIT. I wish the principals of this company the best, but I don't think there's a case to be made for notability for this company right now. FalconK (talk) 07:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi FalconK! Please let me add a personal note, as a member of the 3D community. I've been following the contest for years, and I think the Challenge is one of the most significant events of the year among 3D artists. A lot of artists apply to participate, but not everyone passes under the conditions. Many contestants keep diaries in which they gradually post the progress of their artwork. While a large number of novice and experienced 3D artists follow the process. I really think that information about the organizer of such an important event for the 3D community could be useful for Wikipedia readers. I've added links to mentions in those print and online media for 3D artists that I'm aware of. I also see references in the article to mentions on well-known sites outside the 3D modeling niche, such as Forbes and Nvidia. Considering there aren't too many well-known brands in 3D modeling, I find these mentions notable. Flytermit (talk) 07:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I'm from Ukraine and found not so many good sources about the company. Not enough notable yet. --Молдовський винний погріб (talk) 10:27, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Good afternoon dear panelists. I have checked many resources, including those in Ukraine. So it happens that the location of the company in Ukraine, but the main activity takes place all over the world and the importance of the company in the country of residence is less than in other countries, and this is the answer for Молдовський винний погріб. But my main argument is that why is Hum3D worse than a similar company such as Daz Productions, Inc.? As for me the importance of Hum3D and the "Hum3D Render Challenge" contest is significant in order for this page not to be deleted. Respectfully Kuba Ali (talk) 17:04, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  @Kuba Ali pleae read: WP:WHATABOUTX to avoid such bad arguments in the future. Молдовський винний погріб (talk) 17:18, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Thank you for your response, respected Молдовський винний погріб. I wanted to point out that the fact that you did not find enough sources in Ukraine can not be an argument for removal. As the page has enough significant sources. Thank you Kuba Ali (talk) 19:07, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Kuba, you must remember that for companies to be seen as notable, *each* source must meet all of WP:NCORP criteria which includes WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:ORGIND. Saying that the article has "significant sources" without pointing to (which paragraph in) which source contains material that meets requirements is not convincing. I also suggest strongly, just as Radzy0 and Rosguill mentioned above, to instead look at creating an article about the competition as it appears to be easier to find sources for this which might meet GNG. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:59, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I haven't been able to locate any references that meet NCORP criteria for notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:59, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Looks like some Wikibusines activity on this article. Not a good sign. MER-C 17:20, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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