Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greg Burke

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Greg Burke

Non-notable minor league baseball player. Hasn't won any major awards and is barely at the AA level, so won't be in the majors for a while yet. Wizardman 16:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per reasons stated above. T-95 (talk) 19:15, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete non notable player--Yankees10 23:19, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets WP:N, WP:BIO and (therefor) WP:ATHLETE. [1] (article entirely on him as college senior at Duke), [2] article entirely on him. [3] passing mention in washington post, [4] passing mention on other side of the country. [5] a bit more than a passing mention. Hobit (talk) 13:00, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Every baseball minor league player is worth of mention on 'Wikipedia'. Get over yourself! They're signed and under a professional contract, I see that as 'stub' worth or whatever you call it. . Someone can be at a ballpark and want to see if Wiki has any information, and BAM! One click with the possibility of more. Delete someone that isn't on a professional team roster, Burke's gonna be pitching in 2009, and once again! Get over yourself 'Wizardman'![[User:Gjr rodriguez] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gjr rodriguez (talk • contribs) 09:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC) (moved by user:hobit as it was out of place.)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:14, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. While I'm don't think AA is fully professional, there do appear to be a few news stories about him. Independently of Hobit's list, I added the CBS Sports and San Antonio Express articles as refs, and I note several stories in the Philadelphia Inquirer that are behind a paywall, as well. (And a minnow to Gjr rodriguez for personal attacks in the AfD.)--Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Doesn't meet WP:ATHLETE, and the few sources given do not fulfill the "significant coverage" needed to satisfy WP:N. black ngold29 00:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- From WP:N:
  "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, and no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than trivial but may be less than exclusive.
  
  As mentioned above, two of the above articles are pretty much exclusively on the topic and certainly discuss him in detail. Could you explain the issue you see? Hobit (talk) 17:13, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll withdraw, but I would prefer more than two short source articles about him. I don't view two articles as "significant coverage" and still don't think he meets WP:N or WP:ATHLETE; although he's close to the WP:BASE guidelines. And it's unrelated to this discussion, but the article could use a good c/e. black ngold29 17:32, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Class AA All-Star last year [6] (which means that he qualifies under the typical standard, Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Notability guidelines). Not sure why Wizardman seems to think that he's "barely" at the level - he spent all season there. His innings total is low because he's a relief pitcher. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 02:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and added the info about his All-Star appearance in the article, as well as his ranks on various Texas League leaderboards last year, a photo from Commons, and some more info from another article I found in Baseball America about him pitching in the AFL. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 02:58, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I'm not sure why Wizardman thinks Burke "won't be in the majors for a while yet". He's still in the Padres' camp this spring (just got the win in today's game against the Giants, actually), and in that he's pitching quite well in spring training (10 games, 10 1/3 innings, 3.48 ERA, 10 Ks) and the Padres' bullpen is pretty lousy, he could be a ML pitcher as soon as opening day. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 03:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.