Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gabriel Hall

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The keep side's arguments remain superficial, while the delete side addresses the number and quality of sources. Sandstein 16:25, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gabriel Hall

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Individual is only arguably notable for the murder. My best understanding is that Wikipedia does not document every murder, and it does not seem as though this murder was notable outside of the short-term news cycle. Whadup, it's ya girl, Dusa (talk) 05:08, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@WhisperToMe:
  • Keep - The reason why I decided this was a notable incident was because of Wikipedia:Notability_(events)#Geographical_scope which states: "Notable events usually have significant impact over a wide region, domain, or widespread societal group." This was because of media interest in the case from the Philippines, Hall's home country. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:26, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:27, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: regarding Whisper's quote, Gabriel Hall does not seem to have had significant impact in the Philippines. I'd say no impact whatsoever, given that he resided, was charged and convicted in another country. Is there even any WP:IMPACT in the US? Geschichte (talk) 14:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Geschichte: I'm unsure myself; I saw Whisper say this much, but I never saw any clarification. As far as impact in the US, I don't recall seeing anything that may indicate relevance in the US. - Whadup, it's ya girl, Dusa (talk) 18:53, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 15:38, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, for the reasons of editor who want to keep this article. Person is quite infamous as well. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The article is notable and had some media coverage throughout the years and the case is pretty notable so I say keep. Article has reliable sources and has correct info. HelpingWorld (talk) 20:00, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 23:43, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Administrator Comment I have relisted this, because while we are at a numerical keep, the article is notable article has reliable sources person is quite infamous are not in alignment with the notability guidelines and suggest futher !votes take policy into account. Star Mississippi 23:45, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I was just passing through (to fix a delsort above) but after reading the article, this is a WP:BLP1E with only local sources... I'm not seeing how the WP:PERP or crime is "unusual" or what Phillipines-based coverage it has. The GMA articles are sourced from the Filipino Reporter (a now-usurped spam domain) leaving only the Freeman article as evidence of wider notability. Am I missing something? czar 00:17, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete On the one hand, it seems incredible to me that a murder and death-penalty case that involves such a hot-button issue as international adoption should not be notable. On the other hand, the article's sources show only two or maybe three sources that meet the usual notability requirements. The arguments for "keep" above do not, unfortunately, contradict this evaluation. The gripping hand therefore points to the lack of WP:SUSTAINED coverage as demonstrated by searches decisively favoring a lack of notability. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 14:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Was his brother on the Bachlorette? There's write up in the Hollywood Reporter about someone with his name. Oaktree b (talk) 20:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment I remember he had a sister (cited in the article), but I don't know if he had a brother. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:22, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I think another reason why I created the article is that around the execution typically press coverage increases, including in European countries, as lately death row inmates have become a cause celebre in countries without the death penalty. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:22, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    But Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and until those sources exist, we have little to show for this event's lasting significance czar 18:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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