Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gabe Jaramillo
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 18:11, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
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WP:NOTINHERITED applies - his brother is notable but i fail to see how he is, given there is no real coverage and the sourcing for his supposed training of notable athletes is a forbes contributor piece. PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:14, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:17, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colombia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:17, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Tennis-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:13, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Jaramillo is definitely notable, since he has trained very well-known tennis players and other athletes such as Maria Sharapova, Andre Agassi, Jim Courier, Monica Seles, Pete Sampras, Anna Kournikova, Kei Nishikori, Marcelo Rios, Max Mirnyi, Mary Pierce, and more. TunaLongfin (talk) 21:38, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- To establish this as a fact, you'll need to provide an actual reliable source. PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:22, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- In fact it was your job WP:BEFORE. After a quick search on the internet: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kmehta/2020/10/14/inside-the-mind-of-elite-athletes-who-become-outstanding-business-leaders/, https://www.eurosport.com/tennis/roger-federer-backs-itf-for-handing-maria-sharapova-two-year-doping-ban_sto5641417/story.shtml -GorgonaJS (talk) 20:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- To establish this as a fact, you'll need to provide an actual reliable source. PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:22, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep subject is notable, as evidenced by being mentioned in a number of articles over a period of more than 30 years. Suttonpubcrawl (talk) 11:03, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Currently, none of the keeps are policy-based, nor compelling on an IAR basis.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 20:03, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Currently, none of the keeps are policy-based, nor compelling on an IAR basis.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 20:03, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:54, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:54, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - ultimately, "mentioned" (as above) seems to be the extent of it. The Forbes article looks promising but is not a Forbes-vetted piece and is from a contributor so wouldn't seem to be subject to the same editorial oversight as we expect from a reliable source. The other article provided above says the following about the subject: "But in an interview with BBC World Service, the US-based star's former coach Gabe Jaramillo said a comeback was possible." That's it. It's such a brief name-check I can quote it here in full. This isn't the sort of significant coverage we require for the subject to meet WP:GNG and I'd have serious WP:BLP concerns about any article built on such scant sources as that. Certainly happy to consider other sources, but I couldn't find anything else (during my own search) that would meet our requirements. St★lwart111 01:24, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP: SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 14:53, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete the association with players such as Sampras appears to be that he was a teacher at Nick Bollettieri Tennis Academy at the time they were students. Beyond his own repeated claims, I see no evidence that he was particularly prominent as an influence. There also isn't enough significant coverage about him to meet WP:GNG. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 03:06, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Besides what Stalwart111 said, the Forbes article has very little in the way of biographical details on Jaramillo that can be used in the article. Essentially, it is an interview, and the claim of having coached famous players cannot rest on Jaramillo's own statements alone. That would be a WP:BLP issue for the players concerned. SpinningSpark 17:26, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
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