Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Felipe Ortiz (footballer)

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The result was keep‎. Modussiccandi (talk) 06:09, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Felipe Ortiz (footballer)

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Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. Of the sources in the article, [1] is about him winning a local municipality award. It has a few lines of prose but is largely qoutes from him. [2] is a play-by-play of a U-23 match and [3] is a few lines and images from him training with the Chilean U-23 team. The only thing I found during a search was this Q&A from a fan blog. Alvaldi (talk) 18:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Football. Alvaldi (talk) 18:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Chile-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:48, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 23:30, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:34, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Very notable player in Chile. In addition to sources in article, here are three: [4],[5], [6]. There are lots more. // Timothy :: talk 14:30, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not seeing anything significant there. [7] briefly mentions that he is being called up for a friendly, [8] has minor mentions of him and [9] mentions him once in a list of other players in a lineup. None of these are significant coverage. And even if they were, they are all are from diariolaprensa.cl so they would only count as one source towards GNG. Alvaldi (talk) 15:12, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, $Salvio giuliano$ 19:54, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - @GiantSnowman:, Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 01:39, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Article comprehensively fails WP:GNG; a couple of match reports, match previews and youth national team call-ups in La Prensa do not represent WP:SIGCOV, nor do the brief mentions and blogposts referenced by the nominator. Jogurney (talk) 17:00, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:50, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Jogurney and Alvaldi's criticisms of the sources seems to be absolutely correct. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:44, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:26, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. In agreement with Alvaldi, Jogurney, and Spiderone. I could not find anything beyond routine call-ups and passing mentions in recaps either. JoelleJay (talk) 16:15, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This is a professional footballer in the first division of Chile and has represented his country, a foremost Southamerican footballing nation at the Under 23 level. He is near the start of his career, and the notability and mentions will very likely continue to accumulate. Found some additional coverage. For example, Ortiz has recently received an accolade from his native city, a provincial capital.Link . And a couple more sources here, and here, where he was giving a press conference. Alan Islas (talk) 23:56, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The first link is an announcement containing essentially one or two independent sentences, with the rest being quotes from him. The second is a routine call-up that is almost entirely quotes. The third is repeating info straight from a press conference with no independent commentary. None of these count towards GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 03:00, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It seems to be relatively notable to be kept, but it needs more improvements and sources. Ali Ahwazi (talk) 20:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The question is, do those sources with which we can improve the article from actually exist? Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:26, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep An source in a major mainstream publication, that includes some quotes, doesn't invalidate the source from being GNG. None of the references above have extensive coverage - but most have significant, albeit brief, coverage. This is a 21-year old with 56 caps for a top team in a major league - not a 35-year old with 2 starts in the French third-division. He recently started in the South American equivalent of the Champions League. Nfitz (talk) 21:57, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The sources mentioned so far, and from searching online, are GNG adjacent. A longer search will likely bring more. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 18:00, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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