Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eugenio Bustingorri

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The result was keep. Withdrawn per sources found in El Mundo Deportivo and El Pais. (non-admin closure) Odie5533 (talk) 17:11, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eugenio Bustingorri

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I could not find significant coverage of this specific player in reliable sources. Delete per WP:GNG. Contested WP:PROD. Odie5533 (talk) 12:34, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:28, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:28, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep—He appears to satisfy WP:NFOOTBALL, including playing for Atlético Madrid, the national team, and in the UEFA cup competition. I had difficulty examining sources because they are not in English, but they seem to support the article content.[1][2] Regards, RJH (talk) 14:52, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:GNG, subject should have significant coverage in reliable sources. Those links are all trivial coverage only. --Odie5533 (talk) 15:03, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep, article that needs to be improved, but the subject clearly passes WP:NSOCCER criteria 1 and 2.--Cavarrone (talk) 15:21, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:NSPORTS, "In addition, standalone articles are required to meet the General Notability Guideline." This article does not meet the WP:GNG. If you have sources which prove it does, please share them. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The BDFutbol link posted by RJH is a not trivial, reliable, indipendent secondary source for the career of the subject. Here you can find a lot more.--Cavarrone (talk) 16:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What about it makes you think it is anything but trivial? It's database entries. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:28, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From the guideline: ""Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material."--Cavarrone (talk) 16:41, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - clearly notable player.--Echetus Xe 15:56, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:JUSTAVOTE. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Sources provided now, WWW.BDFUTBOL.COM keeps getting better by the day, now it has match-by-match details. --Vasco Amaral (talk) 16:24, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:GNG. The BDFutbol.com source appears to be a database entry for the person, which is hardly significant coverage. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:26, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Sources:

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1986/10/08/pagina-13/1152411/pdf.html

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1987/08/27/pagina-73/1151984/pdf.html

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1989/07/23/pagina-22/1204798/pdf.html

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1990/04/07/pagina-18/1210891/pdf.html

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1990/07/31/pagina-16/1213539/pdf.html

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1993/04/04/pagina-14/1473141/pdf.html

Mejor futbolista 1987–1988

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1988/09/15/pagina-18/1175691/pdf.html

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1988/09/19/pagina-88/1182202/pdf.html

Mejor futbolista 1990–1991

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1991/06/23/pagina-24/1243292/pdf.html

http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1991/06/14/pagina-64/1243596/pdf.html

Mega60 (talk) 16:46, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That definitely looks reliable, though most appear to be only trivial coverage. The first one is an interview, and this is the definition of trivial coverage. Even so, for the purposes of notability this counts as only a single source since it comes from the same newspaper. The WP:GNG requires multiple sources, and more than two depending on the circumstances. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:53, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.osasuna.es/dev/archivos/revista5.pdf

http://futboltotaldanicruz.blogspot.com/2010/11/te-acuerdas-de-bustingorri.html

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/BUSTINGORRI/ATLETICO_DE_MADRID_S/D/_/CLUB_DE_FUTBOL/Bustingorri/ultimo/fichaje/Atletico/presenta/hoy/elpepidep/19890725elpepidep_6/Tes

No hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver → There is so blind as those who will not see. I am sorry! Mega60 (talk) 16:58, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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