Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death of Jane Bashara

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Kudos to the various editors who greatly improved the article during this discussion. joe deckertalk to me 22:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Jane Bashara

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does not meet WP:VICTIM, WP:EVENT or WP:PERSISTENCE. all these guidelines trump WP:GNG. yes there was a spike of coverage with the discovery of body and her husband named as person of interest but this is a run of the mill murder. LibStar (talk) 01:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. WWGB (talk) 03:31, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. WWGB (talk) 03:31, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Since the article is about the death/murder (not about the victim), the relevant guideline is WP:Criminal Acts, not WP:VICTIM. Here, a search for "Jane Bashara" shows that this criminal act remains the subject of widespread media coverage, and not just locally. Coverage even in the UK (Daily Mail) and ABC and CBS News, for example. The article does need updating to reflect later developments, including the arrest and release of the handyman and other more recent developments. Cbl62 (talk) 13:48, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
agreed. why don't people bother to improve articles? LibStar (talk) 00:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the article needs improving rather than deleting. If you want to split the work 50/50 on this one, I'd be happy to participate. What do you say? Cbl62 (talk) 00:57, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
LibStar -- WWGB and I have begun work on improving the article. Your help would be welcome. Cbl62 (talk) 03:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"national news media of 2 countries" is not a criterion for notability. LibStar (talk) 00:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is an article about a crime and its investigation, and not a bio article, so some of the deletion reasons given by the nominator or others are inapplicable, such as it failing WP:VICTIM, or WP:BIO1E. It satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (events), the applicable notability guideline, with the multitude of instances of extended coverage noted above by Cbl16, starting Jan 26 and continuing through this week, including extended coverage in US national news media as well as British news media. Given this persistent coverage, it is surprising that the nominator says it fails [[[WP:PERSISTENCE]]. The national and international coverage is not just because of the method of murder or the special qualities of the victim. The case has numerous factors which have kept it in the news, such as a reported confession by one person, reported conspiracy charges involving other persons, and the reported existence of a person of interest having a mistress and an "open marriage," reports of a whips and chain SM dungeon, and the police reportedly sending the bloody clothing of the victim to a funeral home along with the victim's body, (where the clothes were destroyed) rather than analyzing the clothing as evidence. Edison (talk) 18:56, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Widely reported. Reported not due to the nature of crime but also investigative failures making it potentiallu useful reference material. Possibly rename to Murder 139.149.1.230 (talk) 14:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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