Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cristina Paras

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The result was delete. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:13, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cristina Paras

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unsourced BLP +prod/-prod edit war. ~~I'm neutral.~~ Weak delete. Jack Merridew 19:15, 23 January 2010 (UTC) (chg to weak del 02:24, 24 January 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I've been looking, further; I saw several reviews that mentioned her as performing the role of Kim on certain nights — i.e. she was the understudy. And the video of her in Stuttgart was a lame outdoor clip with a few banners and parasols as props and nothing more. The original version of the article asserted that she was in the Broadway production of Les Miserables (and many moar on teh Great White Way;). There are a great number of less than first tier performers working in the many touring companies that hit all the non-first tier cities. Jack Merridew (who saw the opening nights of both at The Broadway Theatre) 22:07, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral until I can see the links to the pay walls, which I was unable to find. (I missed the ongoing prod war, sorry) NativeForeigner ^Talk/_Contribs 19:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm leaning delete until I see some coverage of something other than her role in Miss Saigon. Fences&Windows 21:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- Fences&Windows 21:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep The pay wall is really painful here, but lots of RSes seem to have lots of good things to say about her ("Cristina Paras is an exceptionally strong dramatic and vocal performer as Kim" C. Tribune, "...and the strong singing of Cristina Paras..." C. Sun-Times, plus similar comments from the Akron Beacon Journal etc.) I just can't see how in depth the coverage is due to the pay wall. I can't confirm the star search claim, which seems odd. Can anyone source that claim? If it's true, I'd say we've met our inclusion guidelines quite well, otherwise it depends on the depth of the sources behind said pay wall. Hobit (talk) 21:39, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete but willing to change. So far the article is completely unreferenced and all sources I can see simply mention her briefly, as part of a review of the Miss Siagon show. I can't see any thing so far that talks about her, rather than a single performance - Peripitus (Talk) 21:52, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Just to be clear, it appears to be a rather long running traveling show rather than a single performance. I realize you probably meant that, but I thought I'd clarify. Hobit (talk) 00:13, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I did see that in the news articles. I meant a single performance as in one character in one named show. She seems far from those who are well known from, say, The Mousetrap; they are known for the sheer number of performances - Peripitus (Talk) 12:06, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Touring troupes are a different critter than the main productions such as NYC and London. They are scaled-down and fit in a few trucks and they employ different caliber performers. Jack Merridew 01:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete considering the difficulty in finding sources for this BLP. I am still trying, though. @harej 01:34, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. After I gutted like half the article, we now have some kind of stub in place. As such, she is reasonably notable and sourcable. @harej 01:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete but willing to change also. I spent some time looking and wasn't able to find anything useful. The source from the Seattle Times does not say she played the role - only that she might... . - Josette (talk) 02:10, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It means she was the understudy on at least a portion of the tour; at most it would be covering half of the performances. Cheers, Jack Merridew 02:21, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
After all's been said or done, I think deletion is best. @harej 03:13, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - nothing that's verified lends notability.--Scott Mac (Doc) 00:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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