Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce Rumbolz

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 03:49, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce Rumbolz

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Appears to fail the general notability guideline and WP:ATHLETE. Existing references appear to be either unreliable or trivial in nature, not a discussion of the topic. The exception is this article. I am unable to view the full text, but it appears to be a fairly in-depth discussion by a regional source, but to me this alone doesn't meet the general guideline. A quick Google search didn't turn up anything better. VQuakr (talk) 04:36, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - passes WP:ATHLETE as demonstrated by this reference. Kugao (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you be more specific about how this reference shows the subject meets WP:ATHLETE? Specifically, the policy says "Listings of statistics must clearly satisfy the requirement for significant coverage." Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 19:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reference shows he was in more than one title fight and meets WP:ATHLETE. Can you demonstrate that the information is not reliable? Kugao (talk) 19:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not user-generated? That being said, I don't really doubt that he's been in the fights listed there so if they qualify as "professional competition at the highest level" then we're probably done here. VQuakr (talk) 19:57, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Kugao --Emerald gloves (talk) 03:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So can we get the "Article considered for deletion" blocks off the page? :) --Emerald gloves (talk) 03:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC) Emerald gloves[reply]

Delete the sources are almost all not third party. lacking third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 23:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Waaaait a minute--see below. Delete--until someone argues that he does meet Wikipedia:Athlete#Generally_acceptable_standards, because I don't see that. Is a title fight for the Brazilian Middleweight title "professional competition at the highest level"? It's certainly not the Olympics. A Google news search for his name reveals plenty of mentions--but basically all of them simply list him as an opponent of someone else, so I don't see how he passes WP:GNG. There are problems enough with the BoxRec website, of course, but even setting those aside, I think we are dealing with a non-notable boxer here. That article, BTW, is pretty bad. Drmies (talk) 02:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, I'd really like someone to weigh in; I'm going to post a note on Wikipedia:Notability/Noticeboard. I don't have a dog in this fight--I don't care if the article is deemed notable, I'd just like to know, esp. since there is no section on boxing at WP:ATHLETE. Closing admin, please don't close it too soon. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 18:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- See Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Bruce_Rumbolz. Drmies (talk) 18:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.