Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BFSF U-14 Academy Cup

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 03:12, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BFSF U-14 Academy Cup

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I'm pretty sure that no Under-14 tournament anywhere in the world is actully Wiki-notable. Black Kite (talk) 23:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How about the Little League World Series? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:54, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Black Kite (talk) 23:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Black Kite (talk) 23:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I've added a couple of additional sources. I feel there is enough coverage here from multiple publications for this subject to meet WP:GNG NemesisAT (talk) 00:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: none of the teams are even notable enough for a wikipedia page and wikipedia:foobtall doesnt cover tournies that low down the age ratings. note that 2021–22 BFSF U-14 Academy Cup would be included by proxy.Muur (talk) 02:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, non-notable. It's a local competition controlled by Bangladesh Football Supporters Forums, not by BFF. Looks like same press release reposted on several newspaper. I don't see enough WP:SIGCOV. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 02:57, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:14, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete local youth tournament, doesn't pass WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There are several articles form multiple websites that focus on the tournament, so how does it not meet GNG? NemesisAT (talk) 11:08, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Super local youth tournament is not notable. 2021–22 BFSF U-14 Academy Cup should also be deleted based on this AfD since it's about the same tournament. Since the tournament itself is not notable, the specific year's version should also be deleted. Then also Sheikh Russel Smirity U-15 Gold Cup probably as well, seems like the creator is creating one for every youth tournament in Bangladesh. Local youth tournaments are not really notable. If it was a international FIFA U15 tournament, then sure, but a small local youth tournament, there are many of those in every place in the world. RedPatch (talk) 18:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why is it not notable? You appear to be dismissing the subject based on what it is, rather than actually considering the sources present in the article. NemesisAT (talk) 18:48, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 18:59, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm surprised by comments like "no evidence of notability". This article for example appears to be reliable, original reporting, and focuses on this event. I've only conducted an English search, I suspect further sourcing could be found in the local language. NemesisAT (talk) 19:19, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Going through the sources, they all seem to be 'Sports Correspondent' or 'Sports Desk' rather than the journalist's name and much of the content appears to be derived from press releases or, in some cases, directly from the organisation running the tournament. See [1] where the content is from the general secretary and same with this one. The coverage across the sources seems little better if not on par with the typical coverage that any pre-season friendly match gets. Better coverage may well exist in Bengali. WP:SPORTSEVENT is quite a high bar for notability with the guideline stating that news coverage should be extensive (e.g., outside of the week of its occurrence and in non-local newspapers) Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:25, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It only needs to meet one bar, if GNG is met it should be sufficient. Thanks for your analysis, I'm glad at least one other person is giving this some thought! NemesisAT (talk) 19:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it might be best to see if anyone is able to find any coverage in Bengali as that will likely make or break this article. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:21, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete For a U-14 tournament to be notable it would have to have received major coverage. But I can't see anything outside of Bangladesh or anything else that sets this aside form the many other youth tournaments run in other countries. Unless proof of the otherwise can be found then it shouldn't remain on Wikipedia. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 21:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Local youth tournament, and all the coverage fails to meet WP:GNG. GNG requires not just multiple sources, but also independent sources. As noted above, the information all seems to be coming from the same singular source, so multiple "sports desks" reporting this information does not meet GNG. If this were an international U-15 tournament, I could definitely see the notability, but this is no more notable than any other local youth tournament. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 21:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not all the information is coming from the same source. The article I linked to above had photographs attributed to the paper itself. It appears to me to be independent. NemesisAT (talk) 23:42, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I agree with all the reasons above and wrote about this on the wikiproject talk page section too. Rupert1904 (talk) 22:31, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Just found Sheikh Russel U-18 Gold Cup and 2021–22 Sheikh Russel U-18 Gold Cup also created by the same editor. Those could be added to the list. It "links" teams, but it's not actual teams. It's linking Bangladesh villages, not an actual football team. RedPatch (talk) 05:35, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Behind the moors (talk) 12:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The "nom" doesn't actually give any reason why the subject isn't notable. NemesisAT (talk) 12:35, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fairly obviously, because it's a tournament played between obviously non-notable teams, with non-notable players. Indeed, one of the "sources" even says that it's being run to look for possibly new talented players. And of course, because it fails GNG. Black Kite (talk) 23:14, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of notability. It's a U14 football tournament that fails WP:GNG. If it was U19 perhaps there would be a fair shout for keep, though. Paul Vaurie (talk) 23:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you judging this on the age of the players? Are you saying given the same coverage, you would support keep if this was an under 19 tournament? NemesisAT (talk) 23:51, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, children's sport coverage is trivial by nature. Geschichte (talk) 13:49, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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