Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ann K. Schwader
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Jayjg (talk) 00:39, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I can't find any reliable sources for her. Hobit (talk) 02:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Looks like a valid author to me. Thepisky (talk) 04:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]- Delete. As Hobit said, there are no reliable sources to establish notability anywhere. Google books doesn't have a thing about her, and neither does Google News: no reviews, no newspaper articles, no nothing. Thepisky, look at WP:Author: having published is not enough. Drmies (talk) 04:58, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:Author. Thepisky (talk) 18:34, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Plenty of stuff written by her, but I can't find anything in reliable independent sources about her, and she therefore fails WP:N. - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:29, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- comment - Sci fi and fantasy genre authors usually get covered heavily in scifi/fantasy blogs/trade publications and not in the mainstream media (unless they are stephanie meyer or JK Rowling). And subject writes scifi "poetry" which is even more obscure. I don't know why but even biggies like Robert Jordan or David Weber don't get covered in mainstream english language press, compared to writers in other areas. Oddly, the publishers push for coverage and publicity in book review blogs rather than in MSM (probably know they won't get it). I know our definition of Reliable Sources will exclude these, but FWIW there has been coverage of her (as a person) and reviews for her works in the usual places where a scifi poet/writer gets coverage - Interview1, interview2, review1 etc.
- I'm well familiar with the speculative fiction small press scene in Australia, and while there are a lot of talented writers there, the vast majority simply aren't notable. And the notable ones do, indeed, get coverage and usually go on to receive a notable award (see Catriona Sparks, Rob Hood, Stephen Dedman, etc). I don't see any reason to make a special exception to WP:N for Ms Schwader on the basis of her chosen genre. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:11, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- And the sources you site are (1) her publisher, (2) a blog, and (3) a user-submitted review. So none of them reliable and independent. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:12, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm well familiar with the speculative fiction small press scene in Australia, and while there are a lot of talented writers there, the vast majority simply aren't notable. And the notable ones do, indeed, get coverage and usually go on to receive a notable award (see Catriona Sparks, Rob Hood, Stephen Dedman, etc). I don't see any reason to make a special exception to WP:N for Ms Schwader on the basis of her chosen genre. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:11, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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