Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amelia De La Rama
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The result was keep. czar 12:56, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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This one is sort of on the edge here but, after a search, I found one article (an opinion) online, in addition to the articles here which seem to only make references to her in passing (as the wife of Sukarno). She does seem to notable for appearing in two films but in secondary roles. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, and Indonesia. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Philippines. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page [1]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created [2] [3]. 202.43.93.9 (talk) 03:46, 1 April 2024 (UTC)- — 202.43.93.9 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- — Removed per WP:SOCKSTRIKE
- Keep: this, this, this and this should be enough for GNG. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- There's also this, this and this. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I saw these articles during my search, but again, they almost all refer to her in the context of being Sukarno's wife outside of the Philstar article, which has a disclaimer on it that it cannot vouch for the original source (this isn't to say it's bad, but verifying the orginal source, to make sure it isn't paid coverage should probably be done). The three newspaper articles
are WP:LOCALCOVERAGE, soI'm not sure they qualify for WP:GNG. Allan Nonymous (talk) 18:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)- WP:AUD applies to companies, and requires at least one source that is at least regional in coverage. The articles in the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin should be enough to pass that. The Historia article also discusses her film career. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 22:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- The problem here is that these articles again only seem to cover her in the context of being Sukarno's wife, which still doesn't fix the WP:1E issue. You were right on WP:LOCALCOVERAGE tho, I will strike that. Allan Nonymous (talk) 17:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The Philstar and the Historia articles both discuss her film career, which I feel is enough to show that BLP1E doesn't apply. Additionally, she probably has SIGCOV in offline sources. The Philstar article points to a magazine article from 1956, long before she'd married Sukarno. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 23:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The problem here is that these articles again only seem to cover her in the context of being Sukarno's wife, which still doesn't fix the WP:1E issue. You were right on WP:LOCALCOVERAGE tho, I will strike that. Allan Nonymous (talk) 17:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- WP:AUD applies to companies, and requires at least one source that is at least regional in coverage. The articles in the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin should be enough to pass that. The Historia article also discusses her film career. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 22:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I saw these articles during my search, but again, they almost all refer to her in the context of being Sukarno's wife outside of the Philstar article, which has a disclaimer on it that it cannot vouch for the original source (this isn't to say it's bad, but verifying the orginal source, to make sure it isn't paid coverage should probably be done). The three newspaper articles
- There's also this, this and this. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 14:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:11, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable as a film actress with multiple roles. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:50, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – Per sources presented above. Svartner (talk) 05:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - I see three sources that meet GNG, (Tulsa, Honolulu, and Philstar) - more is presented than just being Sukarno's wife, so not just 1E. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 03:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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