Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alfred Bowerman

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The result was keep. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 17:29, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Bowerman

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Violates the general criteria of WP:NOTDATABASE, and fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT #5. An attempt to find additional sources failed, and WikiProject Cricket was also unable to help.

Prod removed due to them playing first class cricket for a significant cricket club, Somerset County Cricket Club, which may have resulted in significant coverage. BilledMammal (talk) 10:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Cricket, Olympics, and United Kingdom. BilledMammal (talk) 10:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - spiritually speaking, I would say there's a difference between playing for W. G. Grace's Chicken Sandwich XI and a County Championship side. (Not in my opinion but that's by the by). The phrase "may have" implies that the nominator hasn't checked to see if there is coverage. (Rationale copied from Montagu Toller). Bobo. 15:30, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The phrase "may have" implies that the nominator hasn't checked to see if there is coverage. - I've checked, and WP:CRICKET has been consulted, but no significant coverage was found. That does not mean significant coverage does not exist, but it does need to be found to keep this article - playing cricket, or appearing in the Olympics, is not sufficient reason to keep the article. BilledMammal (talk) 01:00, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. A first-class cricketer who also appeared in the olympics satisfies GNG for me. @Harrias:, @Johnlp: – do you have any additional sources for his guy? StickyWicket (talk) 15:53, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, as outlined on the Cricket Project talkpage, the first volume of the Somerset Cricketers series will have a section on Bowerman, as on all players from 1882. My copy is not currently with me, and it will take me a few weeks to be reunited with it. Johnlp (talk) 22:45, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Based on your comment at WP:CRICKET, I don't believe it would count towards GNG; sources that attempt to cover everyone within a group are routine coverage for that group and do not contribute to notability. Further, it is only one source, and we need multiple to meet WP:GNG. BilledMammal (talk) 00:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Johnlp and Harrias. It should be worth noting that cricketers from that period in time won't always have widespread coverage, purely because of the age they lived in; however, that shouldn't discount what is written about them. One of my B-class military articles about a British general is largely sourced from a similar essay-based source. StickyWicket (talk) 19:30, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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