Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AIR Faizabad

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 09:01, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article pertains to the city-level affiliate of a wider radio channel, acting primarily as a translator station, and as such would lack notability according to WP:BROADCAST. A quick Google search does not point to notability on its own.  Shobhit102 | talk  03:47, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.  Shobhit102 | talk  08:07, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  Shobhit102 | talk  08:10, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. A network affiliate broadcasts a mixture of network and local programming. Only if there is no locally-originated programming can it be dismissed as a translator. (For example, the morning show may be primarily local with some network programming for national news or a syndication tape with brief nationally-sourced features.) We keep radio stations. Wikipedia:Notability_(media)#Broadcast_media and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Broadcast_media Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:20, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I am not voting at the moment, but trying to collect sources. The station is verifiable based on [1]. It is one of the 42 North regional service stations of AIR [2]. I am not sure whether it broadcasts local programming (such as local news). I do agree with Shobhit102 that there isn't much information available. If there isn't, one option could be redirect it to All_India_Radio#Regional_services.--DreamLinker (talk) 05:51, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete and/or redirect. Broadcasting does not work in all countries the same way it works in Canada or the United States — in the vast majority of countries, radio and television networks do not have any such thing as local "affiliates" that originate any local programming separately from the parent network, but rather they operate exclusively as a single national service with a bunch of rebroadcasters that have no local programming variations. North American broadcasting is the exception, not the rule, to how broadcast networks operate in most countries. So the notability test is not passed just by saying the word "affiliate" — it's passed by showing reliable source evidence that the station actually originates some local programming. But there's no evidence of that being shown here at all. I'm not an expert in how to figure that out when it comes to India, but that's precisely why the claim has to be sourced, and not just asserted as possible, before it actually becomes valid grounds for an article about a radio transmitter — we've had lots of articles attempted about radio "stations" that don't meet that criteria, but actually exist solely as rebroadcasters of other services or networks, so proof that a radio station actually passes that condition has to be shown and not just presumed. NMEDIA most certainly does not exempt a media outlet from having to be properly referenced to be considered notable. Bearcat (talk) 18:05, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment-Will be expanding on Bearian's comment(s) as to the Indian scape shortly:)∯WBG^converse 13:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.