Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Bangladeshi military coup

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Non-cooperation movement (2024). This seems to be the consensus opinion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Bangladeshi military coup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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There was no military coup in Bangladesh in 2024. The article's central claim is factually incorrect, which misleads readers and distorts the historical record. The resignation of Sheikh Hasina was a direct result of widespread student movements, not a military intervention. The student protests demanded her resignation, leading to her decision to step down. Sheikh Hasina was given a 45-minute window to safely exit the country, a measure taken to protect her from the potentially angry crowd. This critical context is missing from the article, which portrays the events inaccurately. For more information please see: https://www.prothomalo.com/politics/jvacuciaoy —MdsShakil (talk) 22:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Bangladesh. —MdsShakil (talk) 22:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be merged with Resignation of Sheikh Hasina —MdsShakil (talk) 23:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am changing my comment from merge to delete as already proved that there are no military coup, civilian government has take control the power. This article is a WP:HOAX. Some organisation trying to spread propaganda, we should follow WP:NEWSORGINDIA —MdsShakil (talk) 11:27, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I think you should not delete right now, instead you can add the word "alleged" BlackRider90 (talk) 03:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  This is not right information as Bangladesh Army haven't take control, rather they are passing it to interim govt. So this article should be deleted immediately. Afshana.diya (talk) 05:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per the reason showed. Also I wonder if the creator of this article really care about writing article in the neutral and correct way. Because please look at the edit. The editor wants to indicate that Non-cooperation movement (2024) is the result of this coup. But in reality, Hasina's resignation started days after the movement. This is not only hoax, but also original research. Mehedi Abedin 23:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I thought that Infobox element mentions related events. Apologies. Reverted. Waonderer (talk) 23:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Don't Delete, Rename Article: There are articles that have used the term "coup". Please refer google search results. The 45-minute window is the main reason for such claims in most of them (Examples: 1, 2 3). If that is not enough to justify, I would suggest to rename the Article and move it to another more appropriate title, instead of deletion. Waonderer (talk) 23:09, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Waonderer You misunderstood. The intelligence agency told her that angry protesters was coming to her residence and would arrive in 45 minutes. To leave the country safely, she had to resign within that time. Please read the Prothom Alo article. This article may now be considered a WP:HOAX and it might have been merged with the related article. —MdsShakil (talk) 23:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Undestood. Due to the language barrier issues, I hadn't referred it first. Just read the translation now. The sources I have referred say "The Army gave the ultimatum". Can't comment on reliability of all the sources. Even in that case, this should be merged with another article or renamed, not deleted. As this article contains information that is not present in other articles.. Waonderer (talk) 23:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  My personal impression is it is largely certain sections of the Indian media which are referring to this as a "coup", and international media tend to avoid the term. Probably in part that reflects geopolitical calculations–Sheikh Hasina was generally perceived as friendly by India, and there is concern in India about whether a new government will be as friendly. I think it would be reasonable for whatever article to cover the debate about whether it constitutes a "coup", but there is presently insufficient consensus in reliable sources to describe it as one in Wikipedia's own voice. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 09:11, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Isn't the rationale for calling it a coup is that it's the military that took control after the resignation over some other political organ such as the president or the parliament? I mean I've found a bunch of sources calling it or at least suggesting that it looks like a coup. ^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]}. I can't really say anything about the reliability of those sources other than the NYT and Reuters but it's what I found. Yvan Part (talk) 23:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  State power is not vested in the army or armed forces; they still function under the President. An interim government is being formed to run the country and may be sworn in tomorrow. The army is assisting in forming this government. —MdsShakil (talk) 23:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's kind of like the coup in Niger in 2023, where its military listened to anti-France and pro-Russian protesters. This can easily be considered a coup. Block345 (talk) 18:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this likely technically counts as a coup – but the reality is most RS aren't calling it one (at least not yet), and Wikipedia has to go by what RS are calling it, not the technical definition of the term. Personally I think the term "coup" may well become more accepted by RS over the time – but we'll have to wait and see whether that happens, and if so how long it takes. If, a few years down the track, the term "coup" becomes well-established, we could always consider resurrecting this article. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 07:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The new government has just been sworn in, so the rumors of a military coup or military rule are not true. —MdsShakil (talk) 15:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the military forces out one civilian government and installs a new one, that still technically counts as a coup. Also, it is still very early days, and we'll have to see how much influence the military exerts on the new government behind the scenes. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 03:02, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge then delete. Add important information to Non-cooperation movement (2024) and then delete the article (I share the same opinion as আফতাবুজ্জামান). The current article mischaracterizes the situation and uses extensive amounts of original research.

The military did not force Sheikh Hasina to resign but rather the situation forced her to resign and flee, even told before that the military was running out of ammunition (according to her son, she considered resignation as early as Aug 3 but he now denies that Hasina ever resigned on her own). Furthermore, a junta was not established following the coup, and several government members maintained power, including the president. Hence, there was no military coup but rather a situation similar to the 2022 Sri Lankan protests.

An article solely focusing on the resignation can be created later. INFIYNJTE (talk) 19:42, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy merge to Non-cooperation movement (2024); there was no "military coup"; even if the title was changed an article specifically about the action of Hasina resigning is not necessary at all, and any content related to the situation is already sufficiently covered at Non-cooperation movement (2024). Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 01:09, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge. I believe there are points mentioned in this article that can be a part of Non-cooperation movement (2024). Hence, we can merge this article to that. I'm Here to Help You (talk) 01:48, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge: I agree this isn't an actual coup. But the information in it is relevant enough. So it should be merged into 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement. Linkin Prankster (talk) 03:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Military. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:07, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge Delete per nomination: while Bangladesh is not a stranger to coups in the past, it seems this time that the anger of the general public ultimately lead to Sheikh Hasina resigning, so it feels more like a revolution than a coup. Therefore the current title appears misleading, even though the protesters don't want the army involved (source: BBC News). --Minoa (talk) 07:01, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to delete due to Muhammad Yunus (a civilian) now leading an interim government. So therefore the article nominated for discussion here is a combination of WP:HOAX and WP:POVPUSH. --Minoa (talk) 08:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/Redirect to Resignation of Sheikh Hasina. Some sources are already calling this a coup, but most are not. I think it is really going to be determined by how the military acts in the coming days/weeks/months. If they decide to remain in power for an extended period of military rule, then it is likely the "coup" term will eventually become mainstream. Conversely, if they quickly step aside in favour of a return to civilian rule, it will probably remain a matter of controversy whether it counts as one. In other words, WP:TOOSOON. If reliable sources start to consistently call it a "coup", we can always resurrect this as an article. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 09:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That article is now a redirect to Non-cooperation movement (2024). -- Beland (talk) 18:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Some sources are calling this a coup. Keep it for for now. It was the top defence officials that gave her the ultimatum. The very same officials are forming the interim government. If a new government is democratically elected soon the article should be deleted. Parth.297 (talk) 09:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's just a report. There's no confirmation she was given an ultimatum. Many sources state she resigned due to the protests. Linkin Prankster (talk) 13:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

THIS IS VERY MUCH AN HONEST ARTICLE. IT'S ACTUALLY RATHER A MILITARY COUP SUPPORTED BY US. SO KEEP IT. 106.66.41.81 (talk) 09:13, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

keep this article 106.66.41.81 (talk) 09:13, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can some admin please strike this comment? POV isn't allowed on Wikipedia. Linkin Prankster (talk) 05:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone's entitled to their opinions on editorial questions; they are not articles. It's unlikely, though, anyone will particularly act on those that aren't grounded in reliable sources or Wikipedia policies. -- Beland (talk) 02:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The IP editor attempted to add a propaganda source according to this edit, before settling on a BBC source, so I can understand why Linkin Prankster was quite cautious about the context of said comments. --Minoa (talk) 05:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge relevant information to Non-cooperation movement (2024) and then delete. There was no coup (some foreign media may reported that way, most likely they misunderstood, as Afd nominator explained above), the article title is simply incorrect and misleading. President Mohammed Shahabuddin still in power and everything including military still function under the president. -- আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 13:41, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete no WP:RS reported a coup in Bangladesh, this is WP:OR terminology. Dilbaggg (talk) 05:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete: No military coup happended in Bangladesh. Army didn't take over nor any emergency was called. The informations here are not supported by Bangladeshi and international media. Don't merge or redirect as it's informations are wrong. Some non-Bangladeshi media may use the term coup but it is misconception. Wiki N Islam (talk) 08:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete: The event in question was a people's revolution that lasted 36 days. It is important to differentiate between a people's revolution and a military coup. An interim civilian government was established during this period, led by a Nobel Peace Prize laureate.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 01:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete there was no coup. X (talk) 15:09, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge; then delete There was a regime-change but not a coup. TrangaBellam (talk) 12:14, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Non-cooperation movement (2024). The articles cover the same topic, that article is much more complete, and "military coup" is misleading. I don't see anything to merge; but I don't think this needs to be deleted and content could be merged later. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:54, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge relevant information to Non-cooperation movement (2024) and then delete. There are some relevant details that can be merged to relevant section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-cooperation_movement_(2024)#Violence_against_Hindus RogerYg (talk) 08:00, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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