Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 Colorado Springs shooting

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 12:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 Colorado Springs shooting

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Fails WP:NOTNEWS and WP:RECENTISM. Wikipedia is not a newswire, newspaper, or live blog. And Wikipedia editors are not journalists. KidAd • SPEAK 22:43, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. Oh, please. Mass shootings of this magnitude always receive lasting coverage and are always notable, one does not a crystal ball for that. Nsk92 (talk) 22:46, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mass shootings of this magnitude always receive lasting coverage and are always notable^{[citation needed]}^{[dubious – discuss]}. KidAd • SPEAK 23:16, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To play devil's advocate, we don't have a lot of articles on private residence shootings with these kinds of death tolls unless we can prove there's more notability than just based on the death toll itself. Love of Corey (talk) 23:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Nsk92 (talk) 22:49, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep per WP:RAPID. Nominated for Afd with no Prod in about 80 minutes. WP:NOTNEWS can't even be assessed in that short time. Remember that WP:RAPID says "It is recommended to delay the nomination for a few days to avoid the deletion debate...to allow time for a clearer picture of the notability of the event to emerge." 80 minutes is clearly not enough time for clear picture of notability to be established. Also no prod means that this should be closed ASAP due to WP:RAPID. Elijahandskip (talk) 22:52, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions. Nsk92 (talk) 22:53, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per above, given that the article was nominated so soon after it was created gives concerns if WP:BEFORE was observed and if WP:NOTNEWS even applies. This is still a developing event, so I would venture to say to wait a week or two before discussing this article's eligibility. Inter&anthro (talk) 23:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Non-speedy keep per above comments; although likely not ITN worthy, and none of the speedy keep criteria apply, KidAd is directed towards WP:RAPID. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 23:17, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now - I'm not convinced this article will become notable in the long term, but we still don't know anything about the shooter or the victims right now. Let's wait a week for any new information to come out, and if there's nothing that can make this shooting distinct, we could revisit this deletion discussion. Love of Corey (talk) 23:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep, at least for now also per WP:RAPID. Wizzito (talk) 01:58, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I thought this AfD was already closed? Love of Corey (talk) 08:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- It was closed by someone who had first voted in it, which isn't allowed. Fram (talk) 08:54, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay. Love of Corey (talk) 09:07, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or redirect - Keep, or redirect to List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021. --Jax 0677 (talk) 11:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This is notable as 5+ people have died and it occurred in a place where mass shootings of this death size don’t usually happen in the US, so it will have a lot of coverage, thus making it notable. • • rslashthinkong (User page) (User talk page) 12:36, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.