Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Árpád Mihály

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 16:29, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Árpád Mihály

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fails WP:NHOCKEY and WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 07:18, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Alright ... I'm aware that nothing I'm about to mention quite meets any one criterion of NHOCKEY; however. He's played over 400 North American professional games, split between the AHL and the ECHL. He's had several stints playing for his national team. He's played over 500 games for top-flight Euroleagues. I'd like to hear what research the nom performed in European sources before asserting that someone who's logged nearly a thousand pro games (and we're not talking UHL/LNAH/Eurominors) can't meet the GNG. Ravenswing 11:06, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The notability guidelines for hockey are way below a reasonable level for notability, if he does not meet them he is clearly not notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:56, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- That is incorrect. Even if he does not meet the specific notability criteria for hockey players, he would still be notable if he meets GNG. Rlendog (talk) 13:45, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete He fails WP:NHOCKEY and the burden of proof is on those who claim notability via WP:GNG. My own search didn't turn up evidence that WP:GNG is met. I also checked his Italian WP page and it didn't show significant independent coverage. It lists some hockey databases and a blog post about him going to play in a Hungarian league. His appearances at IIHF events with his national team are all at lower levels and that's been stated in many AfD discussions as being insufficient to show notability. Papaursa (talk) 18:45, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep This is a difficult one. There is this newspaper article from when he played in Reading that is quite an extensive profile of him (it is the April 16 issue on page D1 if the link doesn't work correctly). It is definitely in-depth coverage, but perhaps it is too local? I have found a few more sources including this interview where it appears he tried out with and was signed (but never played with) Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg (another source here). There is this recent source where a dead rat with his name and number was placed in the dressing room by an opposing team. This source, though local and mostly about another player, does seem to indicate that he is well known in the Romanian Hockey world (the Romanian player being interviewed is at one point called "the next Mihaly"). A short interview from when he was playing with the Hungarian National team. There also appears to be a few articles about him in the archives of the Wilkes-Barre Time Leader ("Never Too Late to Go Home" from Dec. 10 seems to be about him), but I can't access them. Another short profile about his aborted signing with Las Vegas Wranglers. A 2004 article on him on hotnews.ro, which I can't tell the reliability of. Finally, there are a number of hits in the archives of the Binghamton newspaper, some of which look to be a bit in depth, but are behind a pay wall. As he was the first Romanian to play pro hockey in North America, and from my searches, I think that there is likely a few more offline sources, especially in local and Romanian newspapers in the early 2000s that have yet to be digitized. Ravendrop 23:17, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Given the fact that he played for a dozen minor league teams, and tried out for even more, it's not surprising that a number of local papers have some coverage of him. However, all of it is the kind of sports coverage that any local paper would give to a player on the local minor league team. I don't think that's the kind of coverage that shows he's worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia (or we'd have tens of thousands of articles on minor league athletes). Papaursa (talk) 00:52, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unless additional references are added to reflect WP:GNG. Currently, there is one stats reference only. Hmlarson (talk) 21:19, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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