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Yes I have and I believe that it is notable and I have put a reference for all material in the article. If you still think it isn't notable or unverified then just delete it. --Psychless22:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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RE: Terry Wogan Assessment
Just dropping a line to say thanks very much for the rating and the comments. The criticisms are justified and constructive, so it will give me something to work on to try to get it up to GA Status. Cheers --Fritzpoll22:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Now many thanks for the GA Assessment - without the B-Class review, not sure we could have cleaned up the personal life section up sufficiently - thanks a lot :) --Fritzpoll14:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if you actually read the article before promoting it to GA, but it appears that you need to read over the Good Article Criteria before "reviewing" anymore GA nominations. In addition to passing an article that failed on multiple levels, you also did not leave a review. If GAN reviews are something you feel you want to do in the future, please read over the criteria, WP:CITE, WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:MOS and other related articles, policies, and guidelines.
Regards, LaraLoveT/C16:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I wouldn't give up on it - have a look at her comments when she gets round to the review. She wasn't the only one to think about it - it passed 3-0 of review. Looking at her comments will doubtless help you get it right on your next review :) --Fritzpoll21:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have read your suggestions and edited accordingly. I added a new section - please see the peer review page for a summary of what I changed; perhaps you'd like to review the article again? Thanks! Resurgent insurgent19:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, not forgotten about it - but just haven't the time right this second - three big exams this Thursday, Friday and Monday are looming large! Thanks for all your help, though --Fritzpoll07:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Prepare your barnstar!
Don't rush yourself. I don't expect anyone to rate the articles in less than a week. I'm more concerned on tagging articles that weren't previously tagged before. OhanaUnited09:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget that in Environment, there's also Category, Disambig, List, and Template Class available to assess. These are not available from Outriggr's tool so you have to manually assess it. OhanaUnited14:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have read your suggestions and edited accordingly. I added a new section - please see the peer review page for a summary of what I changed; perhaps you'd like to review the article again? Thanks! Resurgent insurgent19:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I must thank you again for doing your part for getting the article to FA quality. Congrats too! :)
P.S. I'll be focusing on getting another crime biography to FA status. (It won't have anything to do with murder, I promise.) Would you like to PR it after I flesh out the article? Resurgent insurgent13:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, not forgotten about it - but just haven't the time right this second - three big exams this Thursday, Friday and Monday are looming large! Thanks for all your help, though --Fritzpoll07:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Prepare your barnstar!
Don't rush yourself. I don't expect anyone to rate the articles in less than a week. I'm more concerned on tagging articles that weren't previously tagged before. OhanaUnited09:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget that in Environment, there's also Category, Disambig, List, and Template Class available to assess. These are not available from Outriggr's tool so you have to manually assess it. OhanaUnited14:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
My monitor is blurry right now because I burned out the other one where I forgot to turn it off before going to bed. And this one is not much better (except the fact that I can at least go online with it rather than totally black screen. So right now, focus on tagging untagged articles. Please read over the scope as indicated on Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment, then tag any articles that falls within the scope. God knows there may be a lot more articles out there that is not tagged. A good way is to go to articles which achieved FA or GA and look for links to other articles. Those articles should be in the related fields as the FA or GA article. That's how I find new untagged articles so you can try that. OhanaUnited13:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey - I saw the link you posted to the template for the Summer Assessment Drive - excellent! I left some comments on the talk page with some suggestions/ideas that can we try this time around. --Ozgod12:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's easy with a bunch of military work group articles, since all they've done is forgotten to carry over the rating from the milhist project to the biography project, so I'm finding it really easy to quickly eliminate a bunch of articles. Military work group "A" is almost done, and I'll move onto "B" later.
Sure, I'll give you a hand with that, plus it adds to the # of contribs (I'm 113 short of 1000) I've got. Send me the template and I'll give you a hand.
In my opinion, I think you should lower the # of articles assessed to receive an award. Right now the # doesn't encourage those who just want to pitch in and help out a few assessment. I would recommend giving WikiCookie for assessing 100 articles. Then amybe another one for 250, 500, 1000 and so forth. If you would like to, I can work out and show to you on what # of articles corresponds to which award that person will receive. (Hey! These are given out for free so we can be generous!) OhanaUnited09:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Focus on WPBiography first, WPEnvironment assessment has a very little backlog and easy to assess. WPB drive surely is much bigger than WPE and I hope I can learn more about assessment by helping in this drive. Are you planning to give one barnstar per 1000 assessments? It may be confusing so let me give an example. Pretend I made 2000 assessments. Do I get 2 of the same barnstar? Or 1 lower-grade and 1 higher-grade barnstar? Or just 1 higher-grade barnstar? Right now I'm looking for anything that can be the subsitute of WikiCookie so that I can lower the requirement for WikiCookie to 100 (since WikiCookie) is not really a formal award, it's just a personal award). I just found out there's a Biography Barnstar (see WP:WPPA) that was created very recently and we can put it into use. Of course, at the end I can help hand out awards if you wish me to. Don't forget to put up a message on community portal. OhanaUnited16:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yap, I want to be in award committee. But right now I'm spearheading WP:GAC and proposing to have all GA having a symbol on the top right corner (similar to all FA) so I might be running a drive to ask people to lend me a hand in putting up that symbol onto top right corner once someone made the template. OhanaUnited16:37, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, while people are busy assessing, make sure to keep an eye on those who have abnormally high #'s. They may be in a rush to do assessment and sometimes causes errors. For instance, I have caught Bernstein2291 assessing an article as GA when there's no GA review. I messaged him and he tried to erase it from his talk page to cover up the story.
Another thing, I might want to impose a flexible special awards system. If there are many people at the end (say August) then it wouldn't be quite fair because some start later than others; and those who start early have more competition. What I am thinking is that if the # of participants exceed a certain amount, then I will change # of Silver and Bronze WikiAward being handed out. Right now, there are 1 gold, silver, and bronze to be handed out. If the # goes too high, I might change it to 1,2,3 respectively. And if the # of participants get way out of hand, I'll change it to 1,3,5 respectively to keep those hardworkers happy.
This is my award proposal at this moment (edits = assessment, I'm tired of typing the word too many times). 200 edits - WikiThanks, 500 edits - WikiCookie, 1000 edits - Original Barnstar, 2000 edits - Tireless Contributor Barnstar, 3000 edits - The Working Man's Barnstar, 4000 edits - The Barnstar of Diligence, 5000 edits - The Biography Barnstar. These are all blueprint. If the top reviewer doesn't even reach 3000 then it's not reasonable to have no person awarded with Working Man, Diligence, and Biography barnstar. OhanaUnitedTalk page18:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good Article template
Thanks for letting me in becoming a member of award committee. As for good article template, it seems like we have to hold on to the idea until the arbituation committee resolves the problem before we start a drive on adding the good article template to existing good articles. You want to help out when I start this drive? OhanaUnited17:04, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to create the template with the name good article. However, it's blocked for creationg so I can't create it. You can try to create that template too, it will block you too. I have messaged admin Firsfron and ask him for help. Do you want to talk over it on msn? OhanaUnitedTalk page16:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Much Appreciated!
Thanks for looking over my recent work. I'll start using that tool you suggested when I sit down tomorrow for more wiki. CaseKid04:00, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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I won't rise as quickly to it as you expect. :( The reason is: I've got exams for the better half of the coming week, following which I want to finish writing that one Singapore article I told you I would (and by "finish writing" you know where I really want to push it to... ;) ). But whether I can thrust forward with Ted's article depends on how much Factiva and my local library can give me. I've developed a new habit of looking for only offline sources now. Resurgent insurgent09:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Re: ABF
"...Rather, I'm doing a little bit of civil disobedience re. a project that I think is not a good idea, and is creating a certain amount of unhappiness among other editors..."
That's the reply I got from Opus a little while back when I asked him about it. Basically, I highly doubt he'll stop, but I'll keep an eye out on him. If he keep edit warring, I'm obligated to block him.--Wizardman22:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Biography
Although I am not a member, I have been assessing articles for your Summer Drive. May I make a suggestion. I see that there are alot of automated stub articles, which have probably been assessed as stub by a bot. You should probably run that bot again because since the Spring Assessment Drive there have been 22,000+ articles added (91,021 at the end of spring to 113,385 at the start of this one), to help you in the backlog, you could perhaps run those again.
OK, it was just a suggestion. About joining I decided to. Do you have a userbox to use. I will mainly work on rugby league biographies. I have been working on Karmichael Hunt for some time, check it out. Thanks SpecialWindlertalk23:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I just gave you the suggestion, but by looking at that page, it seems that they ran the bots some time ago, and haven't been used since, which is why I gave you the suggestion, because when assessing some articles, I notice that they have stub templates yet they are not stub automatically. SpecialWindlertalk01:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
{{#ifexist:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Comments|complain about complexity of template|}}
The template is a bit of a mess, yes! Anyway, I think I have fixed it so that it includes comments when they exist, more or less as described in the heading: the point is to generate some non-whitespace text for the #if to detect in this case. I checked it on Joseph Haydn, and also on Isaac Newton (which has no /Comments page, amazingly). Good luck getting the colour right. Geometry guy13:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I know that you are very involved in Wikiproject Biography. That is why I need your help.
Wikipedia's coverage of the Salem Witch Trials is absolutely terrible. Most of the people involved don't even have biographies written about them. Plus, the biographies that do exist are horrible. They are ridden with vandalism, nonfactual information, spelling and grammar errors, and they do not have a Neutral Point of View. Most of them probably have to be re-written! Also, most of the existing biographies are stubs anyway.
Unfortunately, we only have two other members. And four people alone can not do all of this work! Is it possible that we can team up with you and Wikiproject Biography, so we can get more members for our task force and hopefully improve Wikipedia's coverage of the Salem Witch Trials?
Okay, I'll join the task force and the wikiproject. I think our first priority needs to be getting this wikiproject organized. The main page of WikiProject Massachusetts needs to be redone, possibly based off WPBiography. I have an idea for incorporating your template into the Massachusetts template. I'm not going to do it right now though, I have too many other things to do, unfortunately. --Psychless04:35, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
RE: Ugh, I see
OK. Thanks for taking on the challenge of helping out The Salem Witch Trials Task Force, I think I speak for all of it's members when I say "Thank you!" Also, take you time, whenever you get time to join and help out is fine.
I need to know the requirements for each class, like, what does an article need to have to be a stub, start, B, GA, A, OR FA? Wikipeep 49417:43, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :D
Which article?
Hi Psychless. I'd be happy to take a look at your article again, but I have been doing a lot of peer reviews and FA reviews and I don't remember which one was your article. If you could let me know I'll take another look today :) Karanacs13:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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I've not been using Wikipedia for long but many of the articles I've made edits to have used this template and I noticed some presentation issues with this template when it was used with the nested flag. Specifically within WikiProjectBannerShell.
None of the items listed are important and needing immediate attention but if you should return to look at the template again perhaps you could consider how easy it would be to address the formatting when nested. A link to the discussion section is here.
One other post on the talk page mentioned a presentation issue but this was prior (17 June) to the release of the new template on 22 June so may have already been addressed.
Having briefly looked at the Template script for WPBiography you have my respect for tackling the syntax and providing the functionality that already exists.
Thank you very, very much for agreeing to review the article I wrote. I have attempted to implement as many of your suggestions as I could. I do have questions about two them, though, which I put one talk page. Best, nadav (talk) 08:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This, mostly, fixes the problems I previously flagged.
On the template history page I think I also saw another edit to do with background colors in a Royalty branch.
Having taken some time to learn a little about the template language (principally from this template.) I did consider, if it were being substantially revised replacing some of the switch statements with #ifeq and, if it works, embedding lc{{x}} or even uc{{x}} in some of the switch statements of assessment to cut down on the number of branch test cases necessary. Then again I do believe a great deal in the old maxim - {{#if it ain't broke|don't fix it}}. :)
I've made the changes to your working version of the template. I didn't want to do this without approaching you first. The modifications are small and only mirror those made to the main template. Change comparisons can be seen here and here.
Hey there. I think I will stick with the Cs. We will get it all done, eventually. As for the Outriggr Script, I don't know how to use it. ludahai 魯大海01:34, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have failed your GA nominee Serranus Clinton Hastings. Details have been left on the article's talk page. You have a good start; I believe that with some more work, this could be a GA. Acdixon14:42, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've made some modifications to your edits to WikiProject Iowa, aimed at improving clarity. One edit which I've left alone for the time being, but would appreciate your input on, is your addition of a "|government" parameter to {{Project Iowa}}. I'm curious as to why you added this - and whether it's set up so that the bot which updates the assessment area for the Project as a whole will also be updating information for that parameter. Additionally, I'm curious why you added a table to WP:IOWA/Government that needs to be manually updated - I don't see the need for the template myself - clicking on one of the categories the articles will be automatically placed in when the "|government" parameter is added will provide a list of articles in that category. Cordially awaiting your response, Tim4christ17talk00:29, 2 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Ah well
We cannot please everyone and we must continue doing what we do. Being an administrator does place someone higher up in the Wikipedia hierarchy; rather they just have access to maintenance tools that regular editors do not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion - so if our assessment drive bothers them - then so it does. We will just continue working towards out goal. --Ozgod02:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This editor is a Novice Editor, and is entitled to display this Service Badge.
Just to let you know, you qualify for this. This award is determined strictly by your time on Wikipedia and edit count. Congrats! --BrokenSphere23:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Eleven easy steps to a B article
Hi, I was wondering why it was you removed the "idiotic" eleven easy steps to producing at least a B article on the WP Biography page [1]. Was it discussed somewhere before its removal? I ask because I personally find the links and suggestions very helpful in editing Biography articles, and I wanted to make sure you weren't merely removing it for personal reasons while others may object. Thank you, María(críticame) 12:31, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Eleven easy steps to a B article has been on that page for months and there easily are more than 1,000 article talk page links to Eleven easy steps to a B article. You may wish to reconsider your actions. -- Jreferee(Talk)18:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You have done a lot of hard work on this article, and I am just wondering why you removed the succession boxes here, were they inaccurate or is there some other reason that is not apparent to me? --Drappel13:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Done. The articles listed either have no talk page or the talk page has no categories, as you requested. The bot currently filters out redirects but does not filter out disambiguation pages. I will add this functionality later. Cheers! — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 18:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your thanks doesn't sound strange at all; I had a similar experience with my first featured content nomination, List of people from Kentucky. I'm sorry I won't be able to conduct a very thorough review due to an abundance of projects in real life, but here are my cursory comments:
The lead still seems a bit short, providing a lot of disconnected facts. A GA should probably have at least a two-paragraph lead and should provide some context for the major events in the person's life, although the bulk of this will be done in the article itself.
The sentence regarding Hastings' ancestry needs a cite.
Slaughter County is a red link. I assume this is a defunct county. If so, you should state this so the reader doesn't wonder why there is no article on it. You might consider creating an article stub for it regardless. With so many other red links in the article, some reviewers might see this as a negative.
You mention the genus Hastingsia, but don't tell what it is. Is it a genus of flowers, animals, bacteria, or what? Inquiring minds want to know. :)
There are way too many instances of the word "he" in the article. Consider replacing some of them with "Hastings," particularly when beginning a new paragraph. Also, try to reword some of the sentences so they don't begin with "He."
There are some issues with the flow of the prose that I can't quite put my finger on. You might consider a formal peer review or just nominate it for GA again and see if someone else will give you some suggestions. If I get time, I might come back and rework some of the prose myself.
Now I'd like to ask for a return favor. I'm having a lot of trouble with my current FA nom of Confederate government of Kentucky. The issues raised at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Confederate government of Kentucky have spilled over onto the article's talk page in trying to find a compromise. I'm not asking you to support or oppose the nom, but if you have any feedback on how to make the article better, or if you have a different take on the article's merit as an FA than has previously been expressed, I'd welcome it. FA noms stress me out, but I'm hoping this article can form the basis of a featured topic, so I'm going to try to save it. Thanks in advance, and good luck with your Hastings article. Acdixon18:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I consider myself a horrible lead writer as well, so don't feel too badly about that. You might want to go ahead and make that reference in the ancestry specific. I tried citing two or three sentences at a time with William Goebel and it got flagged in FA review. Better to be safe than sorry; I think the only time you can do multiple sentences with one cite is for the whole paragraph. As for the redlinks, I think you're OK to leave them; I was just referencing that one, since it seemed pretty easy to address. And I definitely know what you're saying about "I don't like it; fix it." Seems like I'm getting some of that with my current FA endeavor. I felt bad about even saying there was something I couldn't put my finger on, because that's not terribly constructive, but I hope the other comments were helpful. BTW, does Iowa have a WikiProject? If so, you might get some help from them. Also, I hadn't thought about including Bowling Green in the featured topic. That will take some effort, as it's the fourth (some say third) largest city in Kentucky. Maybe I can get Confederate government to FT, then add Bowling Green later. Thanks for your comments; maybe we can work together on some more articles in the future. Acdixon13:38, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I should would appreciate some guidance on this matter as I have a page I've been editing that is coming up for review where I followed this standard diligently. Thanks! ∴ Therefore talk 03:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I went ahead and unlinked all of the stand-alone years. I hope you're right. ;) I noticed that the Bush and Clinton pages don't do it, so I think I'm good. ∴ Therefore talk 04:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Template:DEFAULTSORT is a fudge. The real thing is the defaultsort magic word {{DEFAULTSORT:Sortkey}}. Note the colon (:) instead of the (|) pipe character. Wikipedia:Magic word might help. The listas parameter is implemented using DEFAULTSORT, as shown by the code at the top of {{WPBiography}}: {{DEFAULTSORT:{{#if: {{{listas|}}}|{{{listas}}}|{{PAGENAME}} }} }}. Hope that helps. Carcharoth01:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Prefaces to HP7
I noticed this and thought you might like to know that it is called an epigraph (literature). I added something on the epigraph to Wikipedia's article on the book, so have a look there as well, unless you are still reading it. Changing the subject completely, do you know how to add categories to the WPBiography template? Details at Template talk:WPBiography. Carcharoth01:14, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've been making some changes, and wanted to discuss a few things. I'm currently trying to make sure there are categories in place where needed to track the use of the parameters. There are around 280 categories, but not all parameters are tracked (eg. disambiguation, template, category and NA pages). One thing I noticed during the assessment drive was people using class=list. This fills in the class bit with a nice List template image, but doesn't actually do anything as far as assessment stats and other stuff is concerned. All the list stuff remains in "unassessed" categories, so theoretically people will find them and change them, but I do think that a list parameter would be useful, or to be more precise something that distinguishes non-bio, lists, articles about groups or pairs of people, and articles about a single person. The title is the guiding light here. If the title is a person's name, then that article needs to be distinguished from those where the title is the name of a group. I was also looking into the dab class, and it should display "this article does not need rating", rather than "has been assessed as dab-class". But more importantly, the dab and cat parameters have categories, but the template and NA parameters don't, so I'm intending to add those as well. Carcharoth15:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Everything except the class=list thing sounds good. A lot of people disagree with the list class. Lists can be featured so most people think lists should just be assessed normally. Psychless16:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree about class=list, but the thing is that people have been putting class=list, because it looks like it works. So ideally there would be some code that if people put class=list would tell them "no, don't do this" (but more politely). I would prefer list=yes, to be restricted entirely to articles that are "List of...". Some template discussion also at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. Carcharoth16:37, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Some more WPBiography template stuff here, where I took the liberty of mentioning your "assessor signs" version of the template. When do you think that will be ready? You mentioned wanting to find a way to get a bot to update the previous assessments - how easy will it be to do that? Might it be best to go ahead anyway? Implementing a coding that won't work and throws up a warning sign unless the assessor signs? Carcharoth03:54, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
All your other changes sound great, but I think we shouldn't add a warning in until there's been more discussion on the signing thing. We need to figure out how it's going to work exactly before we start messing in that area. I really doubt that a template can "read" edit information but I could be wrong. You might want to ask someone really experienced in templates and technical things. Out of all the "ideas" we received in the complaints about the assessment drive (which seems to be corrupting the very foundation of Wikipedia based on the amount of complaints) this signing one seems to be the one that might actually work. Psychless04:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Auto-signing for WPBiography assessments
Took me ages to find it, but there is a way to enter four tildes inside a template and get a timestamped signature generated. This would be much more convenient than relying on people to type out their username and the time and date. See Wikipedia:WikiProject user warnings/Help:Template usage. Some templates which claim to allow ~~~~ as a parameter have since been changed, but I did find {{s/block}} which takes the four tildes as a parameter. I think the relevant coding is {{{signature|{{{1|}}}}}}. This allows the first person assessing to sign, but I'm not sure what happens if the first person placing the template doesn't sign... I found more stuff as well, and I've started a Village Pump thread here. Carcharoth10:56, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comments on this. The template changes have gone through. When do you think the signing scheme will be ready? I noticed that its been exactly 2 months since the assessment drive started (well, in terms of the stats, anyway), so I wrote a little update. Hope you don't mind! Carcharoth17:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting progress report, I've left my thoughts on it there. I still have a few changes to the appearance of the template I'd like to make, so the next time we have an update let me know so I can make them. About the signing scheme, I don't really know any bot owner that I'd feel comfortable bothering to write a bot for it. The ones I know seem to very busy. On the assessment drive though; I wish we would have made more progress in July. I guess it's mostly due to Wikipedia being flooded with articles on people who played minor role x in movie nobody's ever heard of y. Funny how you can assess about 3700 articles and not be finished with [Ja]. Regards, Psychless17:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hullo
Greetings Josh; from one to another!
Its nice to see people under the age of 18 contributing to Wiki. (I'm 14 myself almost 15) Just wanted to say hello, and to mention that I'm trying my hardest to make time during my day to assess articles for the Summer drive/wiki. ((Heck, I'm on vacation at the moment, its 12am and I'm typing this note.)) Keep up the good work.
P.S. Colbert, and Uncyclopedia rock.
P.P.S. Is a timestamp/signature required after filling out the assessment template? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordevilvenom (talk • contribs)
Hello,
I've recently begun to set up WikiProject UK Trams, and I have noticed that you talk page, user page, and the comments made on the WikiProject Council Page seem to make you look like an experienced, or talented Wikipedia user.
As a result, I am asking if you could maybe create the above things, aswell as other similar items for WikiProjects, for WP:UK Trams. The page, so far, can be found at User:Bluegoblin7/WikiProject_UK_Trams
I would appreciate any correspondance on my talk page. Thanks, Bluegoblin718:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that location would be fine. Image wise, I will be uploading an image within the next few days, unless I can find a suitable one already on Wikipedia. I'm not sure about colour at the moment - is it that hard to change? Thanks a lot - Bluegoblin718:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Further to the above, I have now found a suitable (for now) picture, and have placed it on the page (User:Bluegoblin7/UK_Tram_box) that you suggested. A blue colour would be ok at the moment, but again, is it hard to change? Looking at the Project Council, the project now has 5 supporters, so may well move over to the main Wikipedia within the next few hours. Could you then help with the other things - Portal, talk page thing etc? Thanks, Bluegoblin718:58, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you are right about a replacement image - there are currently two possibilities. Is it possible to have two pictures on a userbox, or if not, then [[Image:Sheffield Supertram - Park Square 02-07-04.jpg]] will do nicely. I have managed to correct the image Also, we are ready to procedd with the portal and assesment box - I will let you know in due course what portal(s) i like. Thanks again, Bluegoblin708:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You may also note that I have put various other bits and bobs on the page, which will eventually be moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Trams/Templates, and could you please correct/improve/alter them as you see fit.Bluegoblin717:43, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
On the subject of portals, they are all pretty good - and so whatever one you feel would suit best. On the Userbox, is it possible to have a darker shade of blue on the border? Also, with the portal, can you create all the pages that go with it, and any relevant templates? As you can see, i have created a few, as mentioned above, but I am sure that they can all be changed. Bluegoblin717:43, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Forgot to ask: Trams may not be your thing, but will you be joining the project? Also, can you help me make my talk and user page look good? And my signature name. Thanks, and I hope you don't mind, Bluegoblin717:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Do you still wish to make the portal for me? The project is now live, and i think it would be helpful to have one! Thanks again, Bluegoblin708:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, you are right about the Userbox - it is OK as it is. With my signature, I think Blue/Grey would be nice, with Bluegoblin going to my Userpage, and 7 going to my talk page? Font wise is Verdana possible? With the portal do you just mean have like a list of categories and pages on the main page? Don't worry how long it takes t get the assesment system up: as you might have seen a keen member has put together a temporary one, but I'm not keen on the picture: to specific! Thanks again, Bluegoblin709:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the signature - it looks really good, and please ignore the thing about me leaving - it is purely for the benefit of some individuals who seem to live to criticise me - maybe they'll learn. Bluegoblin718:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC) <----- looks really good, the bold version![reply]
also, thanks for adding the assesment to the banner. and, if i want to change the font, do i jus type it in the relevant place? Bluegoblin718:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, i suppose it might be a good idea... thanks. I am trying to resolve the issue with the banner, and so far, we seem to have got to the point where two are needed, for ones that dont come under WP:TRAINS, and also, we might add the train parameter to ours, and do like the opposite, with the primary focus of the article going first. Thanks again, Bluegoblin718:31, 20 August 2007 (UTC) p.s., what else do we need for the portal?[reply]
Hi! we've now agreed to use either both, or incorporate it where necessary. But we will use this one where the trains one isnt needed. Also, we might put trams above trains on those pages, just to outline that trams is the primary, not trains. Bluegoblin719:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ive probably tagged ~5000 pages so far and Im guessing there are at least another 10k+ (very low estimate) as for when its done, I have no clue βcommand01:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Im sending you this reminder because you volunteered to mentor my students in English Advanced B as they become contributing members of the Wikipedia community. We start working with Wikipedia in earnest next week. I ask you to take a look at your entry in the Mentor Table at Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Mentors
Please update the information, esp. with what your technical and informational expertise is or, if you have decided that you no longer want to participate, please remove your information from the table. Please watch the pages associated with the project. Students will contact you via your user page and as soon as my students have user pages, I will put them on the navigation bar associated with the project.
I don’t need to remind you that your job is NOT to write their assignments for them, of course. I certainly will tell my students that… and the fact that you are volunteers that don’t have to help them… so they need to be nice. If any students misbehave (tho I don’t expect it) don’t hesistate to contact me and I will take care of it. The goal of this project is to integrate successfully into the Wikipedia community. Anyway… what I really need your help with is helping students get oriented to Wikipedia, make appropriate changes and write about appropriate topics (see Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Syllabus for assignments). I also need your technical expertise… I am only an English teacher after all! I appreciate what technology does for us but I am no technical expert!
Hello Psychless, sorry for such a late response on your Yasser Arafat review, I was overseas from july 21-aug 15 so I just decided to meet most of your suggestions on referencing and I expanded and clarified sections and statements in the article as well as put some more detail into the references and created several subsections for a more quality read. I have a simple request to ask of you and that is to review the article once more and point out any mistakes that are left or anything that still needs work on. I have not fully referenced the Political survival and controversy section in particular the middle text of that section. --Al Ameer son22:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I also was wondering if you think a semi-protected lock on the article could be instated due to the very frequent vandalism of the article --Al Ameer son22:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
im really sorry i did not know that writting in caps could offend some people....
well we wanted help because we are going to write an article about mexican culture. And we need help twith the grammar and the spelling... So when the article is done we will send it to you. So that you could tell us what is wrong, whats good and what we should change,.
Thanks for working on those infoboxes, but please be careful not to remove the mapit links: they provide useful and helpful links at the bottom, and the coördinates that they place at the top of the page appear even in a featured article such as Cleveland, Ohio. Nyttend15:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I noticed that it makes it look odd. If you the others that we both edited (Ackley, Ackworth, and Bridgewater) you'll see that I noticed my error and fixed the problem, so I'll just go and do that to Casey. By the way, why are you removing the mapits anyway? They are standard for municipality articles nationwide, even with a featured article like Cleveland. Nyttend02:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:Bio summer drive follow up
It's been more than a week since any discussion or activity on the drive page and its talk page (near 2 weeks since your last comment re. the awards distribution), and I understand that you're likely busy right now. However, between you and OhanaUnited, is it possible to implement distribution and thus close the awards issue sometime soon? Thanks. BrokenSphereMsg me20:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Biography Assessment Drive
Sorry for not able to reply to you, I was (and still is) busy in real life. I handed out gold, silver, and bronze wiki to top 3 but not the biography barnstar. Then I awarded biography barnstar to 4th and 5th place. Do you want to split up the work (ie you award particular barnstar and I pick another one)? And would you mind if you award BrokenSphere barnstars? It's just against my idea that a person gets awarded more than once for doing the same work. OhanaUnitedTalk page00:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly lost track of the drive, sorry. Thank you for your efforts in making it the success it was, and for ensuring the awards were handed out. The Biography project can always use a lot of help, and your effort was one of the biggest helps I think it has seen in a long time. If I could think of another appropriate barnstar to give you for the idea and execution, I would. I might still anyway, if I find another one that fits. John Carter12:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Newsletter
Looks good! The notice about the meeting is particularly useful. Unfortunately, it looks to me like the project's two old backbones, Kingboyk and Plange, are kinda AWOL right now and that hasn't helped the project much. I don't know whether there's a bot out there which delivers newsletters and the like, but I think I could try to find out if you want me to. John Carter21:36, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
List of counties in Iowa
Hello Psychless! I noticed your work at List of counties in Iowa and I have just a few suggestions: 1. Please, remove the Established column because it really doesn't matter when a county was established because it couldn't work as a county until it was organized. Plus, there is overtemplating going on that page. There are too many templates in use on that page (well over 300). That's why the last few templates can't be shown. And since there is a {{dts}} template on every field in the "established" column, the "overtemplating" problem would disappear. 2. In the Area column, just leave the number showing how many miles the area is and the {{countyrow}} template will calculate the kilometer equivalent automatically. Plus, you have some glaring errors. For example, 381 squared miles for Dickinson County states that it's equivalent to 631 km² while the real equivalent is around 986 km². Hope that helps. --Crzycheetah00:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am really glad that you asked! I mixed up established and organized dates. Most, if not all, of the FLs use established dates. I mean it's good to have them both, but I made this suggestion because no other FL has both of those dates. Also, If you can find another way of decreasing the number of templates used, then you may keep both of these dates. As you could see here, all templates can be seen if there were just one "date" column.--Crzycheetah03:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yasser Arafat peer review
Greetings Psychless, I dropped in to inform you that the current Yasser Arafat peer reviewer, User: Scartol, is almost finished up with her review (just another proof read perhaps). You can now start on yours anytime you are ready. Cheers. --Al Ameer son19:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The three-month long Summer Assessment Drive, organized by Psychless, was a huge success! It ran from June 1 – September 1, and reduced the backlog of unassessed articles from 113,385 to 56,237. In all, over 100,000 articles were assessed. Over 60 people contributed in some way.
A barnstar has been created for exceptional work on Wikipedia biographies and for assisting the project. The Biography Barnstar is listed with the other WikiProject awards and can be awarded easily with a template. See the template page for more details.
The newsletter is back! Many things have gone on during the past few months, but many things have not. While the assessment drive helped revitalize the assessment department of the project, many other departments have received no attention. Most notably: peer review and our "workgroups". A day long IRC meeting has been planned for October 13th, with the major focus being which areas of the project are "dead", what should our goals be as a project, and how to "revive" the dead areas of our project. Contribute to the discussion on the the new channel (see below)
We decided to deliver this newsletter to all project members this month but only those with their names down here will get it delivered in the future.
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Hello. While I'm not particularly involved in biographies, I noticed this from the bio newsletter while floating around: "A day long IRC meeting has been planned for October 13th, with the major focus being which areas of the project are "dead", what should our goals be as a project, and how to "revive" the dead areas of our project." See the just started: Wikipedia:Content review/workshop and it's talk page. I'm anti-IRC, incidentally; perhaps whatever's said on the 13th can be summarized on this related workshop. Cheers, Marskell13:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There simply isn't that much information there. Maybe it's because that much is not available, but either way...B articles are usually long articles that cover the subject fully and in-depth, which means they tend to be longer. Also, the sources could be better. IMDB is not a reliable source and should never be used. Try and find information from books and/or news cites, as they are far more reliable. Moreover, you may have a conflict of interest here, if you are the main contributor to the article. Assessments should be done by third party users who are un-biased either way. Please, don't be offended that I re-assessed the article. Work on it some more. If you ever want me to reassess it again after you've continued to work on it, drop me a line. Nikki31102:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The irc meeting
I couldn't attend the recent irc meeting on #wikipedia-en-bio due to my moniter being damaged. Could you give me a quick summary of what went on? thanks--Phoenix 15 (Talk)12:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for missing it, but I was having trouble with the computer. This is what I proposed to say if I had been able to log on. I'm curious as to what you might think of it. John Carter01:12, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Rest assured I have not forgotten your challenge for me to improve Ted Bundy. I've been thinking of it but honestly since I don't know as much about the U.S. crime world, I'm much more nervous about approaching this one. Secondly I have been busy with real life - I even moved Elyamani Khamis, an article I was planning to improve to FA-status, to my user space to give myself a timeout. So it might be a long time before I get to Bundy. :( AwyongJeffreyMordecaiSalleh03:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
More than 2 months later what was said would be carried here regarding awards distribution for the summer assessment drive hasn't been carried out. You and I have both been working on other things, but I assumed that it would eventually get implemented, which hasn't happened yet. I was hoping that you would be able to carry this out over time given your connection circumstances and assuming that you didn't think that with time I would eventually give up and forget about it. I'd like to see the issue finally closed, as I still consider it open after an apparent solution was reached but never carried out which I held you to. Given the time of year, unless you're off somewhere enjoying the break, I think now might be a good time to finally carry it out so we can start the new year without this still outstanding. As all other interested parties seem to have forgotten about it or let it go, I guess that just leaves me. If it makes you feel better, I can comprise on this. In addition to the Bio barnstar, I'm settling on just the Barnstar of Diligence and Working Man's to help reduce administration on your end. Let me know what you think and if this works for you, so we can get some closure on this. Thanks. --BrokenSphereMsg me17:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Didn't know you were computerless for that long. Like I mentioned, I think at this point in time out of the assessors that it's just me who still thinks it's open with everyone else either forgetting or moving on to other things. I'm just asking for the other 2 that I mentioned that round up the top 3 - Diligence and Working Man's, since I already have the Bio barnstar, and like I said, I'll consider this closed upon receipt Thanks. --BrokenSphereMsg me02:18, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As a current or past contributor to a related article, I thought I'd let you know about WikiProject University of Florida, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of University of Florida. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks!
I noticed that you're doing another Biography WP Drive. I've already signed up for it, and will attempt to edit as many articles as possible.
I do, however, have a couple of suggestions for the organization and logistics of future drives.
I noticed, during the previous drive (summer 2007)that overlap assessment tended to happen. In other words, I'd be in the middle of assessing, say, Politicians and Government, and return the next day to find the entire section finished, thus upsetting my assessment "mood".
When the Military History Wikiproject began our 2008 B-Class Assessment Drive (BCAD), we divided the entire range into worklists of 200. Each editor then picked a worklist and completed the assessment of all 200 articles in that worklist. When the worklist was finished, we simply adopt another one and repeat the process. So far, it has worked exceedingly well. No overlap assessment has occurred in the two weeks that the drive has been going on.
You might want to consider using the same system for the 2008 summer drive.
The worklists are located here.
If you need further information on the format, I suggest contacting Kirill.
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Concerning your recent edit of "The Complete Peerage. . . " in the reference section of Giles Daubeny. I do not understand why you changed it from the actual page view to the title view. I believe that most researchers would appreciate being able to see the exact page, when possible, without having to keep searching. Please review previous versions of the article, I hope you would agree with the convenience of the immediate availability of the reference page as it was provided and consider a change back. Thanks. Daytrivia (talk) 20:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You do have a valid point about it looking a little messy and I will try a few things to, perhaps, make it look a little better. I do think the actual page needs to be available instantly but maybe I can incorporate your idea to make both work. Once I get a chance to experiment I will give you a heads-up to look it over. Thanks for your understanding and concern. Daytrivia (talk) 01:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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