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Bluff Knoll
Hello Gnangarra,
Thanks for your beautiful images. I hope you will not mind that I have used the one of Bluff Knoll (Stirling Range W.A.) on the page about Darwinia collina. I have one of my own but not as good as yours.
Cheers!
Gderrin (talk) 19:41, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'm happy to see them in use thats why they are here, thank you for letting me know. Gnangarra 01:26, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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Diuris images
Hello Gnangarra,
Greetings from the other side of the continent.
I am writing a few W.A. orchid pages and noticed some changes on the Diuris page. In particular, an image of yours that you added in 2006 as Diuris carinata (with a note about about some uncertainty) was renamed Diuris magnifica by [[1]] on 7 November 2009 with no reason given. Given that you created the image in Kings Park, presumably of a labelled plant, I think the label should be Diuris carinata. You?
I am also curious about the image of Diuris longifolia on the same page. You appear to have added it to Wikimedia Commons as Diuris brumalis then labelled it on the Wikipedia page as Diuris longifolia. The same image has been used on the Diuris brumalis page. I do not profess to be an orchid expert so please tell me if I have been wrong in changing the label (on the Diuris page) to Diuris brumalis.
I have an image that I think is of Diuris longifolia which I will use on a page about that species. Gderrin (talk) 00:22, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- Durius brumalis it is.. the Durius are one I have trouble with getting accurate id's on because the species have very subtle variations it can be more a time and place rather than appearance that enables an accurate description I use Florabase to id.. If you think one is something else I'm not going to argue with you when it comes the Durius so yeah if you have an image your more certain about with id then use it. Gnangarra 01:06, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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This "article" Create New Page on Wikipedia was promotional and certainly in the wrong place. I've blanked the page for now. Would you like to delete it and/or protect it to prevent similar accidental writes to that page name? --Pine✉ 08:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
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Looks like they understood what we were up to!!! satusuro 07:52, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks. I take the issue seriously and believe that the particular article is being buggered up by numbers. It needs to be free of them, that is what the list article is for. User:JarrahTree 05:39, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, your last edit on Template:WikiProject Australia here had an extra File: causing a red-link instead of the image you intended. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:07, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- thank you for spotting that and letting me know I have fixed. Gnangarra 22:21, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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Hi i am user aligholami20, you deleted my article called 'type 2 diabetes in australia'. can you revert it please so i can get a copy of it. it is for school. thanks alot appreciate it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aligholami20 (talk • contribs) 02:43, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
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Confirming link between these accounts, the User:150Gaol is for use in relation to the celebrations of the Newcastle Gaol Museum 150th Gnangarra 01:37, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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Hello!
I have added </noinclude> to this template. Do you want to put this template on articles you've contributed to? That is probably not allowed, and a bad idea. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 08:15, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not Robyn Taylor, this template is the credit for the use of her work and explaining how it came about.. Gnangarra
- Well, I am sorry to inform you that using that template on articles is a very bad idea, and probably not allowed. I can easily edit over a thousand articles per day, imagine if I would leave such a template on every page I edited! And imagine what would happen if everyone did! The Quixotic Potato (talk) 08:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well show us the policy that says so, I'm complying with copyright requirements as the text is word for word pasted from someone else work with permission, we have previously used similar templates for works source directly from other sources Gnangarra 08:26, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- TBH I am not sure if such a policy exists, although I wouldn't be surprised if it does. We can use WP:CONSENSUS. Where have you used those other templates? Do you agree that it would be problematic if I (or other people) would make a similar template that links to a local business, and place it on many pages? To be honest I think the best option is to move the template to the talkpages of the articles. Is that a good compromise for you? The Quixotic Potato (talk) 08:30, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Someone has tagged Raffaele Martelli for deletion. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 08:31, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks I know cant edit three things at once Gnangarra 08:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think Annie Stack also has a problem, WP:NOTABILITY. Where have you used those other similar templates? The Quixotic Potato (talk) 08:37, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks I know cant edit three things at once Gnangarra 08:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well show us the policy that says so, I'm complying with copyright requirements as the text is word for word pasted from someone else work with permission, we have previously used similar templates for works source directly from other sources Gnangarra 08:26, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I am sorry to inform you that using that template on articles is a very bad idea, and probably not allowed. I can easily edit over a thousand articles per day, imagine if I would leave such a template on every page I edited! And imagine what would happen if everyone did! The Quixotic Potato (talk) 08:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not Robyn Taylor, this template is the credit for the use of her work and explaining how it came about.. Gnangarra
- Talk Page lurkers comment - To predicate a message probably not allowed, or even bad idea suggests a lack of knowledge of the context of where outreach/glamprojects work, in a number of projects around WP en, where there are various forms of acknowledgement of work on specific projects.
- Please, also to invoke slippery slope conjecture, is misleading and misrepresenting the issue. The identification is not a 'self identifying' one, but a very specific contribution, to a very specific project - this has nothing to do in any way with general editing by wikipedian editors. There is a substantive difference that specificallly identify the project, the writer and the purpose.
- Find the policy you think is tied, and link to it. Meanwhile, however well intentioned the comments might be, try understanding that where attribution exists in article history at all times (have a look at contribution history on any article - there off-wiki programmes that specifically identify editors...) - this is something different JarrahTree 08:38, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Would you please be so kind to show me some of those "various forms of acknowledgement of work on specific projects". You seem to have indented every paragraph of your comment one more step. Please read WP:INDENT. As I tried to explain before, I am not even sure if we have a policy that explicitely forbids this kinda stuff, although I wouldn't be surprised if there is one. But we don't really need one, we can use WP:CONSENSUS and WP:COMMONSENSE. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 09:00, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- would love spend time finding you the examples there are thousands of them created in earlier times but I'm trying to stop idiots deleting notable articles because they havent been wikified Gnangarra 08:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well, personally I am not a complete idiot (but I am a potato, we potatoes don't have much brainpower), and I would say that both Raffaele Martelli and Annie Stack are probably not notable enough to get a Wikipedia article (after reading the articles). And if they are then the reason(s) why should be clear when reading the article (this ensures people won't tag them for deletion). Please read WP:NOTABILITY, especially this section. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 08:48, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- would love spend time finding you the examples there are thousands of them created in earlier times but I'm trying to stop idiots deleting notable articles because they havent been wikified Gnangarra 08:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not sure where the judgement of in process articles from from - the articles are in process of being wikified - you are jumping in too quick at the wrong spot. A major problem with jumping on articles in process is you are welcome to your insights into what constitutes what, but you are wrong. They are indeed notable people, and also when the articles have been subjected to the usual processes of wikification, the notability issues become totally irrelevent. JarrahTree 08:55, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
sources are in the articles, but here you go
- Erickson, Rica, Old Toodyay and Newcastle, Toodyay Shire Council, 1974.
- Garden, D., Northam, An Avon Valley History, Northam Shire Council, Hesperian Press, 1992.
- Kinder, John J. and Brown, J., Canon Raffaele Martelli in Western Australia. Life and Letters, Abbey Press. 2014.
after 10years opf creating and deleting content I kind of know what is a notable subject Gnangarra 09:00, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- How much time do you need? Would (for example) a week be enough? Then I will (try to) return here after 7 (or more) days. Or do you prefer two weeks? I think the best option is to move the template to the talkpages of the articles. Is that a good compromise for you? Where have you used or seen those other similar templates? Would you be so kind to show me some examples (you can post them here). The Quixotic Potato (talk) 09:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- David Ritchie (diplomat) Gnangarra 09:14, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, interesting stuff. Would you please be so kind to answer the rest of my questions (above, in my comment dated 09:10, 14 September 2015)? Do you have more examples? One of the differences is that that text in David Ritchie (diplomat) is imported from an external source that uses a (probably compatible) license and requires attribution. In the case of Raffaele Martelli and Annie Stack there is no evidence of that. The best solution would be for Robyn Taylor to create an Wikipedia account so there is no attribution required (other than the page history). Has Robyn Taylor licensed these texts? Under which license? Another difference is that you are using a huge template you made yourself with a link to a commercial company and a picture (the picture is too big, but even at this size I had to click on it to see what it was) instead of plain text (and the minimum text required). Currently the CC-notice template also contains a logo, albeit a tiny one that is actually relevant, I am not sure why, and I would recommend removing it. But, if you have evidence that Robyn Taylor uses one of the licenses that are compatible with Wikipedia then you can use CC-notice. But using the template you made in its current form is a very bad idea. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 09:58, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- as for the rest please show which policy you are referring to with the template Gnangarra 10:19, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- We don't really need one, we can use WP:CONSENSUS and WP:COMMONSENSE. Please answer the rest of the questions. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 10:31, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe it is a good idea to add this and that to Raffaele Martelli. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 10:31, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, reducing the size of the template already makes a very big difference. I am not sure what kind of computer-setup you guys have but on my screen that template was huge! The Quixotic Potato (talk) 10:40, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- WP:IAR If the rules get in the way of making or maintaining an encyclopaedia then ignore them, adding the template enables compliance with re-use conditions so it would be that WP:COMMONSENSE is actually supportive of what I and other editors have done consistently since WP started. Thanks for the two additional sources on Raffaela first I need to add inline for the text that was provided, then I'll work expanding it with other materials. I'm happy to discuss this further but please besides an WP:IDONTLIKE reason I'd appreciate it if you could show me some policy reasons specifically related to the issue. Gnangarra 12:00, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- My PC monitors are quite big, so the template ended up being huge (before you reduced the size). On a small screen (I used my MP3 player) the template was gigantic. I think you will agree with me that this was a bit too big. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 18:41, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- As I had just created the template and was still working on the template and its placement in articles that had you not wasted my time with demands it would have been tested on multiple devices and adjusted sooner, it also would have been better in the first instance to have just said it looks to big on a small screen can you reduce it. Gnangarra 23:41, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Can you show me a list of the demands that I am accused of wasting your time with? I don't think you can. The fact that it was so big (on both small AND big screens) is just one of the problems. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:00, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- heres one Gnangarra 00:10, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Nope. Demand = a forceful statement in which you say that something must be done or given to you. Demands is the plural. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- heres one Gnangarra 00:10, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Can you show me a list of the demands that I am accused of wasting your time with? I don't think you can. The fact that it was so big (on both small AND big screens) is just one of the problems. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:00, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- As I had just created the template and was still working on the template and its placement in articles that had you not wasted my time with demands it would have been tested on multiple devices and adjusted sooner, it also would have been better in the first instance to have just said it looks to big on a small screen can you reduce it. Gnangarra 23:41, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- My PC monitors are quite big, so the template ended up being huge (before you reduced the size). On a small screen (I used my MP3 player) the template was gigantic. I think you will agree with me that this was a bit too big. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 18:41, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- WP:IAR If the rules get in the way of making or maintaining an encyclopaedia then ignore them, adding the template enables compliance with re-use conditions so it would be that WP:COMMONSENSE is actually supportive of what I and other editors have done consistently since WP started. Thanks for the two additional sources on Raffaela first I need to add inline for the text that was provided, then I'll work expanding it with other materials. I'm happy to discuss this further but please besides an WP:IDONTLIKE reason I'd appreciate it if you could show me some policy reasons specifically related to the issue. Gnangarra 12:00, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- as for the rest please show which policy you are referring to with the template Gnangarra 10:19, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Note that the guideline which discusses attribution templates is Wikipedia:Plagiarism, specifically WP:PLAG § Copying material from free sources and WP:PLAG § Where to place attribution - Evad37 [talk] 13:56, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- The way I see it, Lotterywest is effectively paying to have its name mentioned on Wikipedia articles. This kind of sponsored content amounts to back-door advertisement: "This article brought to you by Lotterywest." I really, really doubt that the community would agree to that if it were aware of the issue. I don't think it's comparable to attributing PD sources to avoid plagiarism. There are all kinds of other problems here that I could think of; for example, those who add this content to Wikipedia are effectively proxying for paid editors while avoiding the letter of the Terms of Use. I'll raise the issue at WP:AN to get more community input. This isn't just something a single project should decide, and as soon as we begin to credit a lottery company, I don't think calling it a "glamproject" is appropriate. Huon (talk) 00:36, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- Link: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Sponsored_content
- Exactly. This is not comparable to an attribution template. I don't need a policy to show that this is not allowed, it is easy to get a consensus that we don't want templates that say stuff like "This article brought to you by Lotterywest".
- I don't know if you (or anyone else) has promised Lotterywest that they would get a link on every article that they "sponsor", but it seems like that is the case. If not, then you wouldn't have a big problem with removing those links.
- The attribution part is OK. We can have a sentence that says: "Text for this article includes material written by Robyn Taylor." (If Robyn isn't notable then her name shouldn't be linked).
- Using div class="toccolours" is a bad idea. Most of the attribution template are simply a line of text. We don't need any background colors and borders etc.
- The picture is so small that I cannot see what it is without clicking on it to get a full-sized version. The picture should be removed, it is pointless.
- The Dr PhD MPHA looks a bit silly, it is probably better to remove that.
- "for the Shire of Toodyay" and "to expand the Toodyaypedia WikiTown project" is irrelevant text should be removed.
- The template is transcluded on just two pages: Raffaele Martelli and Annie Stack. In both articles an editsummary was used that already attributes the text to Robyn, which means that the template is not necessary.
- To make a long story short; you can delete the template, or you can change it to: "Text for this article includes material written by [[Robyn Taylor]].<noinclude>[[Category:Toodyaypedia]]</noinclude>" The Quixotic Potato (talk) 05:05, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- The way I see it, Lotterywest is effectively paying to have its name mentioned on Wikipedia articles. This kind of sponsored content amounts to back-door advertisement: "This article brought to you by Lotterywest." I really, really doubt that the community would agree to that if it were aware of the issue. I don't think it's comparable to attributing PD sources to avoid plagiarism. There are all kinds of other problems here that I could think of; for example, those who add this content to Wikipedia are effectively proxying for paid editors while avoiding the letter of the Terms of Use. I'll raise the issue at WP:AN to get more community input. This isn't just something a single project should decide, and as soon as we begin to credit a lottery company, I don't think calling it a "glamproject" is appropriate. Huon (talk) 00:36, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- I've listed the template for discussion. Please see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 September 16#Template:Toodyaypedia - Robyn Taylor. I'm also going to remove it from the few articles on which it is transcluded until a consensus develops. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:40, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- I should probably mention that I'm the one who answered the OTRS email, which did not give a specific license but seemed to put restrictions on the re-use of the content that would make it fall under the purview of the WP:NFCC. I'd advise Gnangarra or others who are involved with the project to discuss the licensing requirements with Ms Taylor and to make sure firstly, who owns the copyright (if it's a work-for-hire, copyright might be owned by the Shire), and secondly, what license, exactly, it is released under and whether that license is compatible with Wikipedia's requirements. That's entirely unrelated to the template issues, but technically right now we violate the policy on non-free content, and if this isn't resolved soon we should put up the articles for speedy deletion on copyright grounds. Huon (talk) 09:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- When I work on OTRS emails there was a level of confidentiality that prohibited discussing the content of the emails in public and that OTRS agents could only give confirmation that an appropriate permission had been provided, if you thing more information is required you email the people involved and discuss it. Gnangarra 09:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Gnangarra: I'm not going to argue over your deletion because arguably G7 could apply even though you were not the sole contributor anymore. However I would just remind you that it is generally inadvisable to use the admin tools in areas where you are involved. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:19, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- none had added any content to the template besides me but yeah about the tools given the permission isnt going to be acceptable and its going to involved significant travel and time on my behalf to clear it up I thought its better to clean up my own mess rather than chase some to clean up after me. Gnangarra 10:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
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Gnangarra, would you mind having a chat with the editor mentioned here. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:38, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- can do but it looks more like they really need the personal touch of someone local to support them and develop some positive outreach activities, after quick look I dont see a local chapter, nor anyone actiive on the wikiproject. m:North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians appear to be the closest User group. Gnangarra 05:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! I see someone else is trying to make contact as well. It seems to have stopped for now (no edits since the 13th), but if they continue they do run the risk of running into some blocks to .. 'enforce' them to use talkpages. I'm sure it is all good faith, but some of the edits do seem a bit bad. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- can do but it looks more like they really need the personal touch of someone local to support them and develop some positive outreach activities, after quick look I dont see a local chapter, nor anyone actiive on the wikiproject. m:North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians appear to be the closest User group. Gnangarra 05:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
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Feels like
A decade since I have been at this talk page. Probably is. Do you know if there is much nungar material about perth wetlands? smells like an interest in view of your meeting with numberless plods. Wow feels like the days when the others actually were still around and active. odd. JarrahTree 06:52, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Tucks Postcards
I'm not in the business of promoting any Spam Webpages. For your information, the files were uploaded on Wiki Commons. The post cards present an historical viewpoint of the places. Kindly refrain from false allegations of 'mass spamming' and using threats on Wikipedia. (WestCoastMusketeer (talk) 11:19, 5 December 2015 (UTC)))
- each of those photos link back to a site selling them as postcards, the way you included them in a mass addition through multiple looks exactly like what I described. Please seek consensus before including them Gnangarra 11:44, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- The below was posted on AN/I, when it should have been posted here BMK (talk) 05:17, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WestCoastMusketeer (talk • contribs) 00:15, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- in the space of 14 minutes it went from a message here to case on arbcom, now a day later I get the first notification of anything taking place and that its now on ANI as well. I responded at arbcom. Oh and I note that not one regular editor of Western Australian topics have reverted the removal of those images. Gnangarra 07:23, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
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Tucks Post Card Edits arbitration case request declined
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Thanks for your work on WA subjects and topics for 2015 Have a safe and enjoyable christmas season Best wishes JarrahTree 11:03, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
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Warmest Wishes for Health, Wealth and Wisdom through the Holidays and the Coming Year! Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 23:02, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Cool source.....
Hey check my contribs just before this one if you can. Found great source for SW WA indigenous bird names...aaaand adding away. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:53, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Gnangarra, hope it's not too smoky where you are!
Just wanted to point out that the Southbound page has been updated about the cancellation, with somewhat different information, in both the History and #2016 sections.diff. I also added some text to both about the Bushfire benefit concert tomorrow at HBF Stadium. Possible needs a copy-edit to reduce tautology. Just FYI. 220 of Borg
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wow done that then JarrahTree 13:55, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Perth Freight Link
Regarding the COI edit, I had already reverted by editing an old revision, and adding back some of the additional info in (what I thought was) an appropriate way. Did you intend to revert the edits I made after the COI edit? - Evad37 [talk] 09:48, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- All the COI edit content should be removed, if there is any content that you think could be added it should be discussed before hand to ensure we dont inadvertently introduce a bias and any sources from a primary source with the coi should be corroborated by an independent source which would then be used in preference to the COI source. Gnangarra 09:58, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, okay. This is the first time I've dealt with this kind of COI editing. I've proposed edits on the article's talk page. - Evad37 [talk] 11:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CXVIII, January 2016
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DYK nomination of Corina Abraham
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DYK for Corina Abraham
On 24 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Corina Abraham, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Whadjuk Noongar women Corina Abraham claims the construction of Roe 8 in Perth, Western Australia, will impinge on an area closely associated with Noongar dreamtime? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Corina Abraham. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Corina Abraham), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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DYK for Hannah Wood (nurse)
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Reclassification of Mullalyup, Western Australia
Re the second paragraph in this edit...
Mullalyup, Western Australia looks like more than a stub to me, so reclassifying it as "start class" seems reasonable. Your use of the plural in "reclassing Noongar stubs" suggests there may be other articles - perhaps one of those others might better illustrate your point. (I remain undecided on the matter of the CfD, but suggest that particular example does not help your case.) Mitch Ames (talk) 13:22, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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Something you may have missed
I see from your edit history that you have been away for a few days so I thought I'd point out something you may have missed. WP:IAP has been nominated for retargeting again. There was no interest in merging Wikipedia:Ignore all precedent, which you had previously nominated so the merge tag was removed. I've subsequently nominated it for deletion. --AussieLegend (✉) 04:53, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
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wot, not watching the gf?
you need to archive your tp - it is getting long :) JarrahTree 05:03, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
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The Bugle: Issue CXXVII, November 2016
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Hello Gnangarra , in regards to User:IngridC-Curtin are you sure they have a need for course coordinator
access? This is used to create course instructors and manage the entire courses system. — xaosflux Talk 05:48, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- Yes Ingrid is managing projects across 3 Universities in Perth as well as a number of secondary and primary schools across the whole state, we are currently working on the plan for first semester starts in March 2017 for some 400-500 students. I'm also keeping a close eye on whats is happening Gnangarra 10:41, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks User:Gnangarra
Thanks again for your support — Preceding unsigned comment added by IngridC-Curtin (talk • contribs) 10:47, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins
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A new user right for New Page Patrollers
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A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.
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Hi, I was hoping for some stronger support and participation in this. I know it's probably a time of year in Australia when people will be editing less, but I thought it would be a good way to root out articles needing work and something to work on long term with some contests to fuel it or something. Wouldn't you like to see the results of Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon for Australia?.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:43, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
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Old block submitted for your review
While going through some old categories, I came across User talk:222.64.218.33. It looks like you left a warning about a temporary block, but then blocked the IP indefinitely as a "Spam / advertising-only account". I don't see a history of a abuse from this IP outside that one day, and it's been blocked since April 2010. I assume that was a misclick? Avicennasis @ 04:02, 19 Kislev 5777 / 04:02, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- It wasnt a misclick as such it was part of a series of chasing spamming accounts from what was WikiTravel of wikipedia articles in 2010. In 2012 when it was forked into Wikivoyage and Wikivoyage became part of the Wikimedia Community the spamming stopped and became interwiki links. The IP once blocked couldnt continue with the spamming that is the whole the purpose of a block, but yeah there wouldnt be any reaily apparent reasonings for maintaining that block any further, I'll remove it. Gnangarra 04:20, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ah. I did not know the context behind it. Thanks for the explanation. Avicennasis @ 04:27, 19 Kislev 5777 / 04:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
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