User talk:Donbodo

Please do not replace Unitarian Christianity with "see Unitarianism". Instead discuss the proposed merger on the relevant talk pages until a concensus is formed. Aleta 03:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Unitarian Christianity article has several significant points that differ than the Unitarianism article. The only mention of Unitarian Christianity in that article are two lines about the AUC. The AUC article doesn't contain the important Unitarian Christianity info. CaliE75 09:58, 9 July 2007 (PST)

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After looking side-by-side I see that the two articles did have the same txt, and redirected Unitarian Christianity to Unitarianism. As for who I am, what would you like to know, specifically? Aleta 04:12, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Apparently when the page was carved out of the Unitarianism article, no reference section was included. I've fixed it now. :) Aleta (Sing) 19:31, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello and Happy New Year. I cannot restore the article, since I am not an admin. If you don't have a copy of the text you prepared, I would recommend contacting an admin who can either email a copy to you or put it online in your sandbox. The admin DGG has done this for me in the past and you can always say that I recommended your inquiry. However, I may suggest that you not put any article online without proper references. In the state it was in, the article failed WP:RS and was open for speedy deletion. I will be happy to work with you on the rewrite. Thank you and be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've emailed it to you, because it will need substantial revision. As an admin, I wouldn't say that we can speedy an article for lacking RSs, as long as it indicates notability, and I think it did, so I am not sure the deletion on that grounds was justified--especially when it did have an underconstruction tag, but we certainly do remove articles tht appear to have their main purpose as promotion, and as a reviewing administrator, I would have speedy deleted it on that basis without hesitation.

You might do much better to start over. Please read our Business FAQ (which applies whether or not there is a conflict of interest), The text reads as if it were at least in part copied from another site or publication, and, even if licensed properly to us, it needs to be written as an encyclopedia article, not a press release. By all means try again, but please check articles on other restaurants here. I'm sure Ecoleetage will help you check it--he knows very well what makes a good article. DGG (talk) 05:03, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You did not provide a cite for the claim that the Modern Lovers were a new wave band or that this proves that new wave came before punk. I am not unsympathetic to your theory (although the pre punk "New Wave" groups I would cite are Sparks and Roxy Music). But your or my theory can not go into the article as that is original research. Only reliably cited material (some of which were deleted by you or the non user editors) can go in. You used a cite from the Reynolds book pages from 130 and 131 where the words "New Wave" are never mentioned to make claims that were never made or at least only partially made. If you accurately quote from a reliable source to make an addition as you did in the Alternative Rock article it your additions will be left alone. As for the broader issue that is a talk page matter. Edkollin (talk) 21:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have a US paperback edition. There is a different edition for the US which came out a year later. So you are probably right Edkollin (talk) 22:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just noticed these comments. Sparks and Roxy Music would definitely not have been classed as "New Wave" in the UK - they were essentially seen as glam rock (along with David Bowie), although musically more adventurous than most others in that genre. The term "New Wave" in the UK meant slightly later bands and artists like Talking Heads, Devo, Elvis Costello etc. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:41, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your edits at Christianity. We are well aware that 100% of Christians do not agree that Jesus is the Incarnation of God - however the article is giving an overview of the subject, and the vast majority of Christians do believe exactly that. Minor differences in belief are dealt with elsewhere in the article. Please see Wikipedia:Undue weight for a policy on how we handle such situations. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Donbodo, mind if I ask a question. What do you consider is the difference between Unitarianism as a Christology and Arianism? In ictu oculi (talk) 21:10, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some Unitarians are Arians (and some are Socinians). Some Arians are Unitarians. But Unitarianism is more than a Christology. This is what I have been trying to tell you. --Donbodo (talk) 05:01, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1. "Some Arians are Unitarians" - sorry so you did answer this here on your talk page. I shouldn't have asked here if I wasn't going to check for answers. Okay, well this isn't correct. See Talk:Unitarianism

2. "Unitarianism is more than a Christology." Is it? General Assembly of Unitarian and Free Christian Churches is more than a Christology, but what else is Unitarianism other than a Christology? Please respond on Talk:Unitarianism. Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:55, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you were asked to bear this in mind back in 2007. You have clearly been on the site long enough to understand the implications of not giving good reasons for edits. Please review WP:REVTALK. The last 100 edits of Unitarianism contain at least 10 edits of yours without summary. This is way too casual, in fact. Your approach makes it very hard to track what is going on at the level on content. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:18, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The vast majority of my edits contain summaries. My minor edits occasionally lack them. But I will try to do better.--Donbodo (talk) 04:10, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm asking for your full cooperation in getting Unitarianism into good shape. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Donbodo, it's fine for you to be tagging very basic things - such as the Socinian's break with Simon Budny with cn tags, but I would guess in a lot of these case a click through, eg Simon Budny to provide the history refs. Cheers In ictu oculi (talk) 00:49, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other Wikipedia articles, unfortunately do not count as proper references. --Donbodo (talk) 05:06, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, but someone familiar with the history of Unitarianism wouldn't be tagging such basic things.

I'm somewhat concerned about your edit to Ferenc Dávid, for the reasons stated on Talk. I hope you haven't been making similar edits to Socinianism and Polish Brethren. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:25, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I tagged those statements because they needed tags. Simple as that. Regarding the other articles, every edit I make conforms to Wikipedia guidelines.--Donbodo (talk) 23:31, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Donbodo, re "I know more about this historical period than you do" I have yet to see a single edit from you that expresses more than your personal antipathy to the roots of Unitarianism and attempts to either impose your own beliefs on people, or delete them from articles. You're not even barking up the right tree. If you want to find 17th Century believers who share your own beliefs (which is hardly a good starting point for editing historical articles, but whatever), you should be looking in Belorussia and possibly the Netherlands, not Hungary and Poland. Good luck. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:41, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, I think it is you who have something to prove. You have systematically gone through all of the Unitarians and tried to make them all look like Christadelphians/Church of God. I accept Unitarians for what they are: Unitarians. It has nothing to do with my personal beliefs. Don't rewrite history, In ictu oculi. --Donbodo (talk) 03:24, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Donbodo. If you knew more about the 17th Century you'd know they evidently weren't Christadelphians/COG because they believed in the devil and were less adventisty. What the Polish and Hungarian Socinians were was Socinians, amazingly. You have been advised by several other editors to stop trying to rewrite/delete early Unitarian history from Unitarian pages. Why not do something positive, like provide sourced information on modern Unitarian groups? In ictu oculi (talk) 07:01, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what Socinians believed? Because I think you don't, or at least didn't before I began revealing pertinent information about them. I am a historian by profession, so I know what I am doing. Modern Unitarianism doesn't interest me very much. I work in the past. And I have NOT been advised to stop rewriting any pages by anyone. And I have never deleted any information. I have only updated it and made it more accurate. YOU are the one who deletes other people's material. And I advise you to adhere to Wikipedia guidelines about reversions. I point to the article on Ferenc David as an example. When I added information and source material, you simply reverted the article back. This is not what Wikipedia advises. --Donbodo (talk) 21:50, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Does that mean you a middle school history teacher? I ask this because "I am a historian by profession" is a claim to me that can only mean at least that. I am not, but I have been reading books in Polish and Latin (and translating from them for academics part time) on this for 20 years, since first visiting Rakow and Cluj-Napoca, and ...yes... the next time you do something like delete the Hungarian Unitarian statement of faith and insert a sentence that says something that is not correct, yes the article will be returned to the state it was and we can discuss it on Talk.

Anyway, if modern Unitarianism doesn't interest you very much then what period of Unitarianism does interest you? In ictu oculi (talk) 02:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anything pre-1900. I don't speak of my private life on Wikipedia, and there certainly is no need for me to justify my knowledge or education to you (the edits should be judged by their own merits), but if you must know, I have a Ph.D. in history and teach on the college level. Let me add that I can spot a religious agenda a mile away, so please be careful. --Donbodo (talk) 16:07, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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